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Quackster

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Unfortunately Shindig have closed their shop on Ashe Street. They are going to go online though. Shame to see another shop close.

Something in the Kerry's eye saying how we have a lot higher rate of empty units than Killarney.

Very disappointing to hear but I guess covid has had a massive impact on the fashion trade. A lot of people still won't go into shops unless they're looking for something specific they need.

phormium

Radio Kerry website has a lot of info on it.

Quackster

Traleelad wrote: »

For someone that hasn’t been up to speed on this.

What’s the big deal with the route taking the 700m divert???

Just wondering what all the fuss is about.

A myriad of reasons. Best read up on it on cyclist.ie if you're interested in knowing more.

Traleelad

Quackster wrote: »

The company is Southwest Pallet Production.

I won't post the owner's name as it hasn't appeared in any other public media AFAIK but it shouldn't be too difficult to find with the auld Google yoke.

For someone that hasn’t been up to speed on this.

What’s the big deal with the route taking the 700m divert???

Just wondering what all the fuss is about.

Quackster

Forge83 wrote: »

Who is the business owner?
I assume the council trying to remove him from the land could lead to a long drawn out legal battle which would delay the Greenway?

The company is Southwest Pallet Production.

I won't post the owner's name as it hasn't appeared in any other public media AFAIK but it shouldn't be too difficult to find with the auld Google yoke.

Edit: Actually I'm wrong, Radio Kerry has identified him. Martin O'Regan is the owner.

Forge83

Quackster wrote: »

He wanted the council to pay to relocate his business that has no planning permission to operate where it's currently located on land that doesn't belong to him.

Hmm, yeah...

Who is the business owner?
I assume the council trying to remove him from the land could lead to a long drawn out legal battle which would delay the Greenway?

Quackster

Pirates Ale wrote: »

http://traleetoday.ie/campaign-calls-on-councillors-to-refuse-planning-for-diversion-on-tralee-fenit-greenway/

'The owner of the business told Radio Kerry that he is fully supportive of the Tralee-Fenit Greenway and wants the project to follow the original route
He said he was willing to relocate his business, but was told by Kerry County Council that it would cost too much to do this, so the Council proposed the 700m diversion'

He wanted the council to pay to relocate his business that has no planning permission to operate where it's currently located on land that doesn't belong to him.

Hmm, yeah...

Pirates Ale

http://traleetoday.ie/campaign-calls-on-councillors-to-refuse-planning-for-diversion-on-tralee-fenit-greenway/

'The owner of the business told Radio Kerry that he is fully supportive of the Tralee-Fenit Greenway and wants the project to follow the original route
He said he was willing to relocate his business, but was told by Kerry County Council that it would cost too much to do this, so the Council proposed the 700m diversion'

Ciarrai76

Unfortunately Shindig have closed their shop on Ashe Street. They are going to go online though. Shame to see another shop close.

Something in the Kerry's eye saying how we have a lot higher rate of empty units than Killarney.

xxyyzz

Clab mor wrote: »

Not at all.

However the original post was from a mod who should have more sense and post to the correct thread. (search before you post)

No mod has had the decency to move the post either.

One rule for them another for others!!!!!

Jesus, I'd say you're great craic.

Quackster

Clab mor wrote: »

Not at all.

However the original post was from a mod who should have more sense and post to the correct thread. (search before you post)

No mod has had the decency to move the post either.

One rule for them another for others!!!!!

The original post related to Tralee and therefore IMO belongs in this thread. The existence of another dedicated thread is irrelevant. If my assumption is incorrect, I'm open to correction by more experienced mods.

If you have a problem with this or anything else, PM a mod. Further discussion of modding in this thread will earn you an automatic ban. Mod.

Clab mor

adam88 wrote: »

Someone a bit moody this evening

Not at all.

However the original post was from a mod who should have more sense and post to the correct thread. (search before you post)

No mod has had the decency to move the post either.

One rule for them another for others!!!!!

adam88

Clab mor wrote: »

There ms a dedicated thread tralee to fenit greenway in the Kerry forum.

I could do without whingy cyclists clogging up the tralee thread who will most likely use the main roads anyway regardless of the greenway.

Someone a bit moody this evening

Clab mor

mitchelsontour wrote: »

@Clab_mor

sound man for reminding me - just posted there as well.

Your as good!!!

mitchelsontour

@Clab_mor

sound man for reminding me - just posted there as well.

Clab mor

Quackster wrote: »

I hope everyone with an interest in seeing the Tralee-Fenit greenway finally bought to fruition makes an objection before tomorrow against the proposed diversion at Bawnboy that seeks to facilitate the attempted theft of public property by a local business. More info in today's Kerry's Eye.

Objections can be emailed to ciu@kerrycoco.ie

There ms a dedicated thread tralee to fenit greenway in the Kerry forum.

I could do without whingy cyclists clogging up the tralee thread who will most likely use the main roads anyway regardless of the greenway.

diego_b

Objection lodged as well for this.

mitchelsontour

Just posted about this in the cycling tread and sent in my objection.

Quaderno

Quackster wrote: »

The proposal is to reroute the greenway around a 1km section of the line due to the fact that Southwest Pallet Production is squatting on a few hundred metre section.

Thanks a lot for that, I just sent off my objection. They cannot be serious...

btw. It was the first objection I have made to any planning proposal, ever. But this thing clearly goes too far.

Quackster

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Can you elaborate. Don't have the paper

The proposal is to reroute the greenway around a 1km section of the line due to the fact that Southwest Pallet Production is squatting on a few hundred metre section.

Now the Tralee-Fenit section was only formally abandoned in 2014. Prior to that, the public ownership of the line was protected by the act of parliament that established the line. To obtain adverse possession of state land, you have to be squatting on it for thirty years. In this case, that clock starts ticking from the date of the abandonment order so adverse possession wouldn't come into effect until 2044.

The diversion makes sense from a practical point of view, at least as a temporary measure in ensuring the greenway is completed ASAP. But if KCC doesn't take the necessary legal action to secure the vacant possession of its property, it sets an extremely unhealthy precedence going forward.

More info on cyclist.ie

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Quackster wrote: »

I hope everyone with an interest in seeing the Tralee-Fenit greenway finally bought to fruition makes an objection before tomorrow against the proposed diversion at Bawnboy that seeks to facilitate the attempted theft of public property by a local business. More info in today's Kerry's Eye.

Objections can be emailed to ciu@kerrycoco.ie

Can you elaborate. Don't have the paper

Quackster

I hope everyone with an interest in seeing the Tralee-Fenit greenway finally bought to fruition makes an objection before tomorrow against the proposed diversion at Bawnboy that seeks to facilitate the attempted theft of public property by a local business. More info in today's Kerry's Eye.

Objections can be emailed to ciu@kerrycoco.ie

Ciarrai76

Has anyone eaten in 'The Yellow Door' on Denny st (formerly Denny Lane)? I know its not open too long, but I haven't been in yet and just curious as to what the food is like?

We were wondering where to eat on Saturday afternoon and didn't even think of it until we walked passed as we were going back to our car.

ongarboy

Radio Kerry saying Scotia Academy grinds school in Moyderwell expanding to give full time leaving cert courses and looking to hire 7 teachers. That will go some way to help with the Brookfield debacle.

Ciarrai76

Please drop the who has been in business longer etc....totally irrelevant to this thread. Quit the bickering & sniping too. Thanks. MOD

user52873

Quit bickering, or an adult will have to intervene.

Rows Grower

Darc19 wrote: »

Both were international companies. One closed their European operations due to eu anti dumping duties of 92% caused their products to be overpriced. That was back in 1996.

The other simply expanded too much in the uk market just before the recession.

As a poster above said, when you have a business you can be blinded by optimism and hope beyond hope the corner can be turned until you finally realize it cannot be done.

Sometimes it can be done. And no one should be admonished for trying.

As for cases taken by the odce for insolvent trading or other issues - they are taken very regularly by liquidators on behalf of the odce.

My gripe is the assumption people have made without any knowledge. It's easy to download accounts that will show it was solvent up to their last accounts, and unless you are under a rock, a normal person will understand that covid will have had massive affect on many business.

But go ahead and do the blame game.

I'll let you work away there on your own with that kid, you seem to be a bit of a specialist in that field.

Darc19

Rows Grower wrote: »

That's quite a record you've got there.

Both were international companies. One closed their European operations due to eu anti dumping duties of 92% caused their products to be overpriced. That was back in 1996.

The other simply expanded too much in the uk market just before the recession.

As a poster above said, when you have a business you can be blinded by optimism and hope beyond hope the corner can be turned until you finally realize it cannot be done.

Sometimes it can be done. And no one should be admonished for trying.

As for cases taken by the odce for insolvent trading or other issues - they are taken very regularly by liquidators on behalf of the odce.

My gripe is the assumption people have made without any knowledge. It's easy to download accounts that will show it was solvent up to their last accounts, and unless you are under a rock, a normal person will understand that covid will have had massive affect on many business.

But go ahead and do the blame game.

Traleelad

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

If limits on how much alcohol you could buy in an Off Licence /supermarket were brought in, it wouldn’t stop anyone driving around from shop to shop and just buying more!

That’s actually a good point.

I did hear at one stage that NPHET were considering implementing earlier closing times.

Again though that doesn’t stop people stocking up before closing.

Personally I think the off licenses shouldn’t be touched.

Lockdown and restrictions are one thing prohibition is opening up a whole can of worms.

If everyone Ireland could be trusted with common sense and a bit of cop on sure there’d be no bother opening the whole place back up. Sadly scenes like those in Killarney and the fiasco with golfgate prove that people just can’t be trusted.

Ciarrai76

If limits on how much alcohol you could buy in an Off Licence /supermarket were brought in, it wouldn’t stop anyone driving around from shop to shop and just buying more!