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Who thinks Trump will win?

whiskeyman

Hope the mods don't mind a new thread, but I just want to see how many of us think Trump will beat Biden in Nov?
I think he just has so much of a populist ground swell and I wouldn't be surprised if 'external' participants get involved in the process.

Do you think he'll get reelected?
Where will that leave America?

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ELM327

dark crystal wrote: »

Oh, we're heading back to the 19th century now. Cool. Nothing much has changed from then to now. Not at all.

Anyhow: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/oct/24/blog-posting/no-democratic-party-didnt-create-klu-klux-klan/

The current iteration of the KKK was reincarnated between 1912 and 1920.

A lot of this stems from the "Birth of a nation" KKK propaganda film which was screen in the white house by a democrat president.

Pherekydes wrote: »

Trump lost badly to Clinton in the popular vote in '16, and he's even more unpopular now.

Biden in a landslide.

Popular vote is irrelevant. It's not a unionwide popularity contest. It's a contest in each state.

golfball37

If North Carolina and Georgia are in play for Biden as the polls suggest then the election is done and dusted.
I still wouldn’t rule out the Don though, I expect him to native on Biden in the debates.

kenmm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NRSC/status/1301344415127138305

That one clip says it all. I don't believe anyone can buy that over-produced nonsense. It's like posting a clip from some cheesy soap opera. How can you even watch that with a straight face?

Edit to add: if you cannot see how that is inflammatory and pure fear mongering then there is no hope.

Edit again - Seriously - that is the biggest load of crap Ive seen. No wonder people are afraid - if you are bombarded with that all day and accept it as fact then you would be afraid of the nasty ol' democrats. It's pathetic really, technology has really allowed us to fu(k ourselves over properly.

Daz_

Elwood_Blues wrote: »

If Biden did win wonder what the odds would be of him being assassinated?

Looks like paddy power don’t have betting currently on this scenario . ...

[Deleted User]

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

No, your post is the one that is laughable. The left started this by using a man's death to damage a President. They then race baited and encouraged an uprising despite the fact that Trump had called for an expedited investigation into Floyd's death:

https://twitter.com/NRSC/status/1301344415127138305

What about the "bad hombres"?

“You Don’t Want to Live With Them Either”

“Bring Back the Death Penalty”

“They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me”

“He Doesn’t Have a Birth Certificate”

All words from your great leader and scandals to boot.:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

What about the "bad hombres"?

“You Don’t Want to Live With Them Either”

“Bring Back the Death Penalty”

“They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me”

“He Doesn’t Have a Birth Certificate”

All words from your great leader and scandals to boot.:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

The bad hombres were the rapists and criminals and drug dealers. They are bad hombres.

I have no problem with the death penalty when it's deserved!

[Deleted User]

gmisk wrote: »

I wish I had your optimism.
Biden could win the popular vote by more than Hilary and still lose out though.
It's all about those few swing states and you could be talking very small numbers between the two candidates imo.

It's covered on the tread on the Politics Form

Nate Silver tweeted that Biden would have to win the popular vote by 6% to win the Electoral College

Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%

dark crystal

ELM327 wrote: »

The bad hombres were the rapists and criminals and drug dealers. They are bad hombres.

I have no problem with the death penalty when it's deserved!

Neither do the Trumpian (supposed) pro-lifers! :pac:

Hector Savage

He'd win if there was a regular election, however this mail in ballot will be a disaster.

[Deleted User]

ELM327 wrote: »

The bad hombres were the rapists and criminals and drug dealers. They are bad hombres.

I have no problem with the death penalty when it's deserved!

So the central park 5 deserved the death penalty?

Also, would it be acceptable for DT to call the irish people "bad taigs"

Coillte_Bhoy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

It's covered on the tread on the Politics Form

Nate Silver tweeted that Biden would have to win the popular vote by 6% to win the Electoral College

Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%

No 6% would almost guarantee it, is what he said, 2% might be enough

Silentcorner

Looks like Trumps support in the black community has jumped significantly since 2016....

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Trumps+approval+rating+in+the+black+community&t=hk&ia=web

And we are told time and again he is a racist....what gives?

Cirrus Incus

IAMAMORON

It is in the bag.

Forrachmore

Hope he does if for no other reason to piss off the irish media

Outlaw Pete

Deleted User wrote: »

What about the "bad hombres"?

“You Don’t Want to Live With Them Either”

“Bring Back the Death Penalty”

“They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me”

“He Doesn’t Have a Birth Certificate”

All words from your great leader and scandals to boot.:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

He's not my "leader" and it doesn't matter how many smilies you add, it won't make you right. I can tell from how you cut and pasted those headlines also that they came from the propaganda piece that the Atlantic put out, something which I have addressed multiple times now on Boards, and all examples within it are laughable, for different reasons. 50 years ago someone said that Trump said 'You don't want them either', oh well then it must be true. MS13 are Bad Hombres. Obamagate (which originated with Hillary's people by the way) was years old when Trump got involved, and he did the same with Ted Cruz anyway. A nothing burger in other words.

The most ridiculous one of them all though, 'They don't look like Indians to me' wasn't remotely racist either. If anything Trump should have got a medal for saying it as he was taking on the Mafia with that comment given that he was attempting to point out, to the Senate, that the Mafia were exploiting the tax exemption tax laws with Casinos, by pretending that Indians were running their casinos. Trump's lucky he didn't end up with a horse's head in his bed ffs ..

.. but liberal lefties hear that Trump used the word "Indian" though and so of course that has to mean he was being a racist :rolleyes:

Cirrus Incus

I love how Irish people are calling the US Democrats left wing. They would be considered a centre right party akin to Fianna Fail/Fine Gael in any Western European country.

amadangomor

Cirrus Incus wrote: »

I love how Irish people are calling the US Democrats left wing. They would be considered a centre right party akin to Fianna Fail/Fine Gael in any Western European country.

All relative I suppose.

The fact that there is a quasi fascist in power makes everyone else left as bejaysus.

Melanchthon

Cirrus Incus wrote: »

I love how Irish people are calling the US Democrats left wing. They would be considered a centre right party akin to Fianna Fail/Fine Gael in any Western European country.

That's not true, they are just a really broad party, look at the nomination contenders Biden (if he wasn't having to play to the activist left of the party these days) wouldn't have been out of place in a Blair or Cameron cabinet, Bernie Sanders was most definitely firmly on the left, is there a single country in the EU that has completely abolished private health insurance which was one of his policies this time around. As far as I know there isn't which indicates that he would economically be pretty hard left in the EU too.

Wanderer78

Melanchthon wrote:

That's not true, they are just a really broad party, look at the nomination contenders Biden (if he wasn't having to play to the activist left of the party these days) wouldn't have been out of place in a Blair or Cameron cabinet, Bernie Sanders was most definitely firmly on the left, is there a single country in the EU that has completely abolished private health insurance which was one of his policies this time around. As far as I know there isn't which indicates that he would economically be pretty hard left in the EU too.

Sanders is centre left, there's very little leftism in American politics, chomsky is spot on with term 'moderate republicans', to describe the dems over the last couple of decades

Justin Credible Darts

the problem is in the US you have only 2 real choices

The pro NRA redneck gun nuts who think the earth is flat and mexicans want the jobs the american wont do anyway

or the pc woke brigade who will do and say anything to be confrontational to the other side, but just as useless

Independents make no impact

Melanchthon

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Sanders is centre left, there's very little leftism in American politics, chomsky is spot on with term 'moderate republicans', to describe the dems over the last couple of decades

He wants to completely abolish private healthcare, that's a hard left position otherwise there would be countries in Europe where it has been abolished as there have been plenty of center left parties in power, people always try and make the left wing of the Democrats out as more right than they really are for some reason.

flanna01

The Dems don't want to win.... If they did, they wouldn't pick Biden (simples!)

Take one step back, and take one good look at the circus that is the Presidential Election.

You have the self worshipping, bumbling idiot, that is the Donald. I more out of touch, egotistical, thin skinned individual would be difficult to find. We are talking about a real life buffoon holding the highest office on the planet, an individual that has brought embarrassment every time he opened his mouth. Even I cringe at every brain fart he drops on the civilised world. Words truly fail me here at his complete and utter lack of understanding of his position.

Enter Joe Biden...

Up to recently, you wouldn't have heard to many speeches from Biden... There is a valid reason for that.

The man is either in the early stages of senile dementia, or just can't string two coherent sentences together? Look back at the likes of Clinton, John Kerry, Obama... They would have torn strips off Trump before breakfast... They were polished politicians that could land words like bombs, either one of them would have toyed with Trump like a cat with a mouse...

any, And I mean any sharp skilled politician knows the blueprint to the Donald's demise.. Get under his skin, press him, call him out on any of his multitude of verbal gaff's... Make him angry, step back and watch him self destruct!

Why do you think none of his lawyers (those still not in jail), would let him testify for himself.. ? Because they know he can't follow a script, any prosecutor worth his salt would trap him within five minutes...

So ... Why pick Biden to lead the assault on mentally inept President? Simple - They don't want to win.

Timberrrrrrrr

flanna01 wrote: »

The Dems don't want to win.... If they did, they wouldn't pick Biden (simples!)

Take one step back, and take one good look at the circus that is the Presidential Election.

You have the self worshipping, bumbling idiot, that is the Donald. I more out of touch, egotistical, thin skinned individual would be difficult to find. We are talking about a real life buffoon holding the highest office on the planet, an individual that has brought embarrassment every time he opened his mouth. Even I cringe at every brain fart he drops on the civilised world. Words truly fail me here at his complete and utter lack of understanding of his position.

Enter Joe Biden...

Up to recently, you wouldn't have heard to many speeches from Biden... There is a valid reason for that.

The man is either in the early stages of senile dementia, or just can't string two coherent sentences together? Look back at the likes of Clinton, John Kerry, Obama... They would have torn strips off Trump before breakfast... They were polished politicians that could land words like bombs, either one of them would have toyed with Trump like a cat with a mouse...

any, And I mean any sharp skilled politician knows the blueprint to the Donald's demise.. Get under his skin, press him, call him out on any of his multitude of verbal gaff's... Make him angry, step back and watch him self destruct!

Why do you think none of his lawyers (those still not in jail), would let him testify for himself.. ? Because they know he can't follow a script, any prosecutor worth his salt would trap him within five minutes...

So ... Why pick Biden to lead the assault on mentally inept President? Simple - They don't want to win.

You obviously haven't watched any of his recent speeches :rolleyes:

Gerry Hatrick

flanna01 wrote: »

The Dems don't want to win.... If they did, they wouldn't pick Biden (simples!)

Take one step back, and take one good look at the circus that is the Presidential Election.

You have the self worshipping, bumbling idiot, that is the Donald. I more out of touch, egotistical, thin skinned individual would be difficult to find. We are talking about a real life buffoon holding the highest office on the planet, an individual that has brought embarrassment every time he opened his mouth. Even I cringe at every brain fart he drops on the civilised world. Words truly fail me here at his complete and utter lack of understanding of his position.

Enter Joe Biden...

Up to recently, you wouldn't have heard to many speeches from Biden... There is a valid reason for that.

The man is either in the early stages of senile dementia, or just can't string two coherent sentences together? Look back at the likes of Clinton, John Kerry, Obama... They would have torn strips off Trump before breakfast... They were polished politicians that could land words like bombs, either one of them would have toyed with Trump like a cat with a mouse...

any, And I mean any sharp skilled politician knows the blueprint to the Donald's demise.. Get under his skin, press him, call him out on any of his multitude of verbal gaff's... Make him angry, step back and watch him self destruct!

Why do you think none of his lawyers (those still not in jail), would let him testify for himself.. ? Because they know he can't follow a script, any prosecutor worth his salt would trap him within five minutes...

So ... Why pick Biden to lead the assault on mentally inept President? Simple - They don't want to win.

Been hearing a bit of that line of thought recently and tbh I can buy into it. Biden is possibly the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put forward.

ExMachina1000

I think he will win. Biden is a very weak candidate. He isnt really liked by left wing voters either. Bland individual

ExMachina1000

Cirrus Incus wrote: »

I love how Irish people are calling the US Democrats left wing. They would be considered a centre right party akin to Fianna Fail/Fine Gael in any Western European country.

It's not just Irish people.

[Deleted User]

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

if trump wins the fallout will be priceless. The fact people preferred trump over hilary in the first place tells you what they thought of her, if Trump wins again it shows what they think of Biden too.

If Biden wins ,and does what every other politician does and not fulfill his promises, he will be gone after the 4 and the republicans will run amok in the next election.

I despise trump,but with the republicans you know they are assholes, the democrats are equally as bad, but more sneaky about it.
Then what would you expect from a nation of war mongers

It would show what they think of the direction the Democrat party is going.

If they came out against the excesses of the woke culture and condemned Antifa and the rioting and looting. They would win easily.

They can still speak out against racism and for equality. But some of the woke crap lately us ridiculous.

Dr. Bre

Somebody really old will win that’s all I know

Danzy

The Dems leadership want to win, they just wanted someone who would stop Sanders.

Biden was the only option, his has massive flaws but the quality of the field was so low there was no other option.