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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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Justin Credible Darts

saw this about the kino cinema proposed renovation.

Does the person appealing does have some valid issues ?
https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Appeal-lodged-against-Cork-entertainment-venue-redevelopment-plans-0ca1df0c-9279-41f7-9a8d-05ef8c2e3dc1-ds

chalkitdown1

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

saw this about the kino cinema proposed renovation.

Does the person appealing does have some valid issues ?
https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Appeal-lodged-against-Cork-entertainment-venue-redevelopment-plans-0ca1df0c-9279-41f7-9a8d-05ef8c2e3dc1-ds

NIMBYism in its purest form.

Imagine complaining about potential anti-social behaviour while already surrounded by a dozen pubs in that area. :rolleyes: What kind of people does this person think frequent a place like the Kino? The performing arts crowd are well-known to be a rowdy bunch, alright...

How are huge developments like this allowed to be stalled for 6 months because of one single objector? The planning system is so screwed up in this country.

uptherebels

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

NIMBYism in its purest form.

Imagine complaining about potential anti-social behaviour while already surrounded by a dozen pubs in that area. :rolleyes: What kind of people does this person think frequent a place like the Kino? The performing arts crowd are well-known to be a rouwdy bunch, alright...

How are huge developments like this allowed to be stalled for 6 months because of one single objector? The planning system is so screwed up in this country.

How many objectors should be needed?
As someone who lives in the area, surrounded by a dozen a dozen pubs, the only place I have noise problems with is the kino. So I'm not convinced that if a roof top bar is added that it will be managed properly especially with adding students into the mix.

namloc1980

NIMBY complaining about reduction in natural light while living slap bang in the middle of the city.

marno21

Pre-application consultation gone in with ABP for a student accommodation with 265 bed spaces at Wilton Road

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/308043.htm

Tij da feen

uptherebels wrote: »

How many objectors should be needed?
As someone who lives in the area, surrounded by a dozen a dozen pubs, the only place I have noise problems with is the kino. So I'm not convinced that if a roof top bar is added that it will be managed properly especially with adding students into the mix.

Are you the one who lodged the complaint?

EnzoScifo

marno21 wrote: »

Pre-application consultation gone in with ABP for a student accommodation with 265 bed spaces at Wilton Road

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/308043.htm

That's the tyre place isn't it?

opus

Any idea what's going on with the place as it's looked deserted for years now? Looking at the facebook page for the former restaurant, appears it closed in 2014!

bingo9999

Ive been wondering that for a while now - seems really odd. Not even sure if the apartments are empty, I dont see much sign of life. You would think a ready made apartment building would be a hot commodity, and the restaurant and dry cleaner too with increasing local population with Square Deal. Even a cafe or something would be perfect for students

opus

If there are people in those apartments then they certainly like living in the dark!

As far I know they were for short-term lets as a friend of mine has her parents & sister staying there for a few weeks when she was having a baby maybe 8/9 years ago.

Treehelpplease

opus wrote: »

Any idea what's going on with the place as it's looked deserted for years now? Looking at the facebook page for the former restaurant, appears it closed in 2014!

Hideous. Knock it and replace it with a red brcik building with a tower like the one at the end of summerhill/Lower Glanmire rd

SleetAndSnow

Used to have a nice beer garden overlooking the river, surprised it was never remade into another restuarant/cafe tbh

opus

See that the student apartments at the Lough have been given the go-ahead for an increase in numbers for the third time.

Planning granted for student accommodation near the Lough in Cork

trackrunner

I see there's now a tower crane up in CIT for phase 1 of their new indoor sports facilities. Good to see them pushing on with this considering the campus will be pretty quite for some time yet.

opus

Big chuck of the old Square Deal place coming down today, the brick facade is being preserved as far as I know.

And the finished product!

ofcork

O Kelly are getting plenty of work they did Sullivan quay and are in Thomas Davis Street in Blackpool too.

opus

Noticed the old TSB bank building on North Main St is being cleaned out over the last week or so, hopefully something new will go in there as the street badly needs businesses rather than derelict buildings/sites.

Just down the road, looks like not much left internally of the three buildings that are being held up by steel bracing.

rob316

opus wrote: »

Any idea what's going on with the place as it's looked deserted for years now? Looking at the facebook page for the former restaurant, appears it closed in 2014!

Bank took that back from the owner and its gone into NAMA. There is a big legal wrangle with that still, chinese tried to buy it but again its stuck in limbo.

bingo9999

rob316 wrote: »

Bank took that back from the owner and its gone into NAMA. There is a big legal wrangle with that still, chinese tried to buy it but again its stuck in limbo.

Thanks for that, good to know! Can I ask where you read that? Would like to keep up with it as it goes along if I can.

Good news re TSB, honestly any movement (that isnt emergency bracing) on NMS is probably an improvement

ScrubsfanChris

New Signage....
Apologies for the quality of the image, the interior of the windows are getting more manky every week

Full Size: https://i.imgur.com/I1rsHyC.jpg

Justin Credible Darts

what a hideous building. looks like it is covered in a bin liner

Even the name "dean" a name that conjures up images of a scrote with his manky tracksuit tucked in to his socks

questionmark?

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

what a hideous building. looks like it is covered in a bin liner

Even the name "dean" a name that conjures up images of a scrote with his manky tracksuit tucked in to his socks

It's a marmite building. Personally I think it fits in with the overall development and shouldn't be viewed as a stand alone piece.

cantalach

questionmark? wrote: »

It's a marmite building. Personally I think it fits in with the overall development and shouldn't be viewed as a stand alone piece.

Marmite as in 95% of the population hate it?

MrDerp

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

what a hideous building. looks like it is covered in a bin liner

Even the name "dean" a name that conjures up images of a scrote with his manky tracksuit tucked in to his socks

I love it especially how the roof angle lines up the other building when viewed approaching the city

questionmark?

cantalach wrote: »

Marmite as in 95% of the population hate it?

LOL.

Honestly though when the whole project is finished I think it will really add to the scheme and eventually become liked by more people than it is today.

lawrencesummers

What the story with the open section at the top? Is that an atrium or something?

fonecrusher1

Looks great. Better than the mostly derelict waste land it replaces anyway. Progress is good. Fear of change is bad.

Mushy

lawrencesummers wrote: »

What the story with the open section at the top? Is that an atrium or something?

Think thatll be the rooftop bar, like at the one in Dublin. Unsure if therell be a swing for any politicians to fall from though

mire

Fantastic contemporary building - more of this please

the beer revolu

cantalach wrote: »

Marmite as in 95% of the population hate it?

Why is it that when people dislike a building they always seem to assume that everyone else feels the same?

Conversely, I really like R&H Hall, but I do understand that the majority of other people feel differently.