jimwallace197 wrote: » Yah, but that won't cut it this time around, they knocked over a cyclist and left him there to die. The driver is looking at least 5 years minimum even if he is a juvenile but more than likely more. This is in the news, the judge will want to make an example of him, no two ways about it.
I dont buy the argument that the gards are underfunded, a significant proportion of our GDP is spent on them and often crimes are not followed up on. Its time there was a little more accountability within the force rather than the same old line, we are underfunded and understaffed.
This is not a difficult crime to figure out, they have good cctv evidence, they have the car, more than likely fingerprints, on top of this, they probably already know who committed it. Wont be long before at least one of them is dragged in and talks to save his own skin. Let the process take its course before slamming it.
Be careful what you wish for with regard to the US, how often do we hear about people being imprisoned & sometimes put to death over there as a result of a miscarriage of justice. People being handed 30/40 year sentences, it doesnt act as a deterrent to crime, in fact, studies have shown it exacerbates it. I know which system I would prefer.
The youths coming from deprived areas like this often do turn out to be scumbags but how about looking at the route cause of why this is so than just blaming a soft judicial system. Its a lazy tired old argument at this stage.
weldoninhio wrote: » I went out with a Brazilian girl for a while. On our first date I asked her what made her pick Ireland to learn English, thinking i'd be proud of the answer, Ireland being the land of saints and scholars and all that. She said it's the easiest place to get a visa for and easy to pick up money working off the books.
weldoninhio wrote: » Ireland not having a 1 year working visa for people from the third world would be the main reason for that. Do we have any 1 year visas for other countries to come here??
expectationlost wrote: » you don't think the driver had anything to do with it?
coinop wrote: » Why are there so many Brazilians in Dublin, does anyone know? And why are they all Deliveroo drivers? The government pump out propaganda that the non-EU immigrants entering the country are all high IQ doctors and engineers yet they all seem to be riding bikes and engaging in illicit activities.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » i'm a cyclist and i have to say these deliveroo cyclists are shocking the way they cycle. Not all of course, but the majority of the ones i see on a daily basis have no regard for the rules of the road. Perhaps some good will come of it, if their current cyclists/employees have to undergo an immediate training course to help protect their safety.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » no you're looking for things there i'm afraid, a looney left millenial no doubt, i have explained what i meant.
Hurrache wrote: » F' sake, his death, and of many others, as little to do with them other than then being on a bike.
ChikiChiki wrote: » Far from it, nice bottom of the barrel generalization though. Just throw a label out because you were called out on your agenda. Cheap.
celticWario wrote: » Can only go by what I see, not enough Gardai, stations closing across the country, they're so desperate for cars they have to use seized cars from criminals.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » So you were at the scene of these accidents then i take it ?
Hurrache wrote: » Cop on to yourself.
expectationlost wrote: » ThewhiteJesus wrote: » i'm a cyclist and i have to say these deliveroo cyclists are shocking the way they cycle. Not all of course, but the majority of the ones i see on a daily basis have no regard for the rules of the road. Perhaps some good will come of it, if their current cyclists/employees have to undergo an immediate training course to help protect their safety. you don't think the driver had anything to do with it?
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » I'm not the one with the agenda, that much is pretty clear. I also note you didn't deny either assumption of you. Interesting.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » The poor man was only 28 and had a fiance. Killed by 4 scumbags in a Ford Fiesta who then did a runner, in the IFSC area. He was hit on Monday but died today. How could you crash into a man and leave him dying there? I've spent enough time in that area to have seen children flying around on scramblers, foreign security guards attacked and having racist slurs shouted at them, f*cking horses racing up and down. In the city centre. It's ridiculous. This case has really struck a chord with me because I cycle to work myself, and the fact that the guy is earning minimum wage working for Deliveroo, part of the gig economy, just trying to earn a few quid. Law and order seems to be non existent in the city centre, I mean if we can't keep that under control what the f*ck do the Garda actually do? Why are we ok with the city centre being such a hotbed of antisocial behaviour? I've lived in many cities before and I know other countries have problems, but you don't see the stuff you see in the city centre here in other city centres. RIP to the poor man, and remember how rough these delivery guys have it in Dublin, they are often assaulted by scumbags and put up with all kinds of sh*t.
ChikiChiki wrote: » Have you noted what I said in my previous posts, the north inner city is a crime ridden cesspit and the non contributing generational welfare class need to be relocated and good honest hardworking people who contribute to the economy take their places. I know because I live in the area. Does that sound like a leftist agenda to you? It is not deliveroo cyclists on low wages going about doing a bit of honest work that is the problem. But go ahead with your cheap labels and victim blaming.
Zookey123 wrote: » What do you mean by that? I swear some people on boards are proper schizo about "the left". Everyone who has a different opinion to them must be a conspiring leftist. Just go see a therapist and get some meds to help you get over yourself.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » Do you really not know what i meant by my post ? Perhaps it's not me that needs medication.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Somehow you're trying to blame Thiago for being killed by 4 f*cking scumbags joyriding, because you've seen some deliveroo drivers cycling badly before. Seriously f*ck off. Anyhoo - are we sure the gofundme is legit? How do you even know? I want to donate but just want to be sure it's not a scam.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » How am i blaming the victim when i said i wasn't there. Just out of interest, where you this upset when the last cyclist died on the road ? Did you go look for a gofundme page then ?
Zookey123 wrote: » Thanks for deleting the worst your mother joke in history btw. And no i have no idea what you meant you need to chill out and stop with the generalization.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Bizarre question but yes, I hate hearing of cyclists being killed because I am one myself. This one hurts in particular because he was murdered by 4 kids in a stolen car and ran away. While working for peanuts. Wtf is your agenda here? Grow up ffs.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » You did not, what was their name, what was the second, and third last persons name. Come on at least be honest. I'm not the one with the agenda here you can see it from the first post in which was yours i just saw. Well it's your thread so i'll go, but seriously this is an echo chamber of falseness.
comedown wrote: » Speaking of agendas... Care to explain this post?
Beasty wrote: » This thread is nothing to do with immigration Do not post in this thread again
Truthvader wrote: » Er.........this incident happened because a gang of criminal kids had access to a car. Try not to use every incident to promote your cycling fetish
