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Face covering exemption question

todolist

My 13 year old has a medical exemption from wearing face coverings in secondary school.Today he went into his school for induction.The Principal was aware of his exemption yet she made him sit away from other classmates behind a plastic screen beside the class teacher.
Surely he should be allowed to sit at his desk like everyone else? Any advice or guidance would be appreciated.

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iamwhoiam

Mustafa Lemon Weeknight wrote: »

Since when did people go around living their lives on the basis that they might have an illness, we used to call those people hypochondriacs.

Did you go around last year with the assumption you had the flu?

You do know that this thread is not about you don’t you ?

Mrs OBumble

Penn wrote: »

Preventative measures only work if they're applied to all.

That is simply not true.

Vaccination is our most widely used preventative measure. Even 80% coverag provides the population with considerable protection.

OP your child is being bullied by exclusion. Make this the school's problem to solve.

kenmm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

OP your child is being bullied by exclusion. Make this the school's problem to solve.

Or just have a word and see if they can do something more reasonable?

A child is getting stressed out here. The welfare of the child is the important factor. Not going in all guns blazing here.

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Mustafa Lemon Weeknight wrote: »

Since when did people go around living their lives on the basis that they might have an illness

Since March 12th.

todolist

Just for the record.My son has autism and severe sinus problems.

Deub

Whatever the school does, it will be the wrong decision:
- they sat him away from children: they are bullying him
- they sat him at the same desk with other children : the school is putting other children at risk

Like said another poster, approach the school with solutions that could satisfy everyone.

greasepalm

Reports on the news say 2 schools now have closed as 2 people tested positive and told to self isolate,bloody hell.One can only do so much.

Psychiatric Patrick

todolist wrote: »

Just for the record.My son has autism and severe sinus problems.

You DON'T need to explain that anyone. He can't where a mask is the point. Why is no one's business.

[Deleted User]

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That is simply not true.

Vaccination is our most widely used preventative measure. Even 80% coverag provides the population with considerable protection.

OP your child is being bullied by exclusion. Make this the school's problem to solve.

So 78 posts for the OP to get the nonsense she wanted to hear. Child is not being bullied. Parent is being a baby.

[Deleted User]

OP, I feel sorry your child has conditions, I really do. But the whole world cannot revolve around his needs. Remember Spock!!

amdublin

Deleted User wrote: »

OP, I feel sorry your child has conditions, I really do. But the whole world cannot revolve around his needs. Remember Spock!!

What about Spock?!

Psychiatric Patrick

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That is simply not true.

Vaccination is our most widely used preventative measure. Even 80% coverag provides the population with considerable protection.

OP your child is being bullied by exclusion. Make this the school's problem to solve.

The kid is not being bullied. Unless you have evidence against the principal ?

Someone at the simply didn't think of the child would feel being put to the side. I is horrible and I would be angry but it s wrong to say bullying.

The OP has a role here too. Did he/she not consider what the school needed to do because the kid can't wear a mask? Why did the parents not get involved in finding a solution or making sure it was okay?

loveall

If the OP wasn't an anti masker this would have made easier reading

Str8outtaWuhan

amdublin wrote: »

What about Spock?!

"the needs of the many greatly outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

Charles Babbage

todolist wrote: »

So you would be fine with your child being discriminated against because he has a medical issue? I feel he is been victimised and treated like a leper.

The issue is whether he causes a medical issue, other children have to be protected.

Psychiatric Patrick

loveall wrote: »

If the OP wasn't an anti masker this would have made easier reading

Is there mention of this in the thread by the OP?

Psychiatric Patrick

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The issue is whether he causes a medical issue, other children have to be protected.

All the kids need to be protected.

Any child, autism or not, would not like to be seated apart from. the other kids

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Deleted User wrote: »

OP, I feel sorry your child has conditions, I really do. But the whole world cannot revolve around his needs. Remember Spock!!

But we revolve the world around kids who have nut allergies.

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Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

"the needs of the many greatly outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

Just like nut allergies.

Charles Babbage

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

All the kids need to be protected.

Any child, autism or not, would not like to be seated apart from. the other kids

Not liking something is not on a par with getting a disease.

Wesser

If he has severe sinus problems..... then surely youd want to.protect him from covid!!!!??????

Psychiatric Patrick

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Not liking something is not on a par with getting a disease.

The school is supposed to considered the physical, mental and emotional well being of the children.

The desk with the plastic guard could easily be placed among the others. It didn't need to put to the side.

hurleronditch

Mustafa Lemon Weeknight wrote: »

Just like nut allergies.

None of the “many” died because they didn’t bring nuts to school though

fits

I’m reading this thread with complete dismay. Masks were never supposed to be met with 100% compliance. As mrs OBimble has pointed out even 80% compliance has a significant effect on spread at the population level.

Any one individual has a minuscule chance of having/ spreading the virus. Anyone with an exemption from wearing masks should not be treated any differently.

I would take this up with the school. Legally if necessary. And leave the anti mask rhetoric out of it. It’s not helping your case.

Afroshack

Ah here so much of this thread is nonsense. OP, your child is not being bullied or victimised. The school have to think of everyone and how best to protect EVERY child from the virus. (And staff) Your child can’t wear a mask so they had to put up behind a screen instead.

Would you rather your child was sat with another pupil and infected them? Infected his teacher? His classmates? (Who night also have medical issues and not be able to wear masks?)

Caused an outbreak in the school?

They have to make adjustments so that every single person is protected as much as possible and it’s your responsibility to prepare him for that. You really need to realise that the world doesn’t revolve around your son, and it’s not fair to put others at risk to suit his circumstances. If you’re that unhappy, homeschool him as others have said.

Psychiatric Patrick

Afroshack wrote: »

Ah here so much of this thread is nonsense. OP, your child is not being bullied or victimised. The school have to think of everyone and how best to protect EVERY child from the virus. (And staff) Your child can’t wear a mask so they had to put up behind a screen instead.

Would you rather your child was sat with another pupil and infected them? Infected his teacher? His classmates? (Who night also have medical issues and not be able to wear masks?)

Caused an outbreak in the school?

They have to make adjustments so that every single person is protected as much as possible and it’s your responsibility to prepare him for that. You really need to realise that the world doesn’t revolve around your son, and it’s not fair to put others at risk to suit his circumstances. If you’re that unhappy, homeschool him as others have said.

The OP was not objecting to the screen. The problem is that the child was made to sit apart from the others.

todolist wrote: »

My 13 year old has a medical exemption from wearing face coverings in secondary school.Today he went into his school for induction.The Principal was aware of his exemption yet she made him sit away from other classmates behind a plastic screen beside the class teacher.
Surely he should be allowed to sit at his desk like everyone else? Any advice or guidance would be appreciated.

Wesser

This is the modern way of thinking.

If i donnt get what i want or if i have to consider the needs of others i am a victim and you are discriminating against me.

Princess Calla

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

The OP was not objecting to the screen. The problem is that the child was made to sit apart from the others.

Look at it from a different perspective.

The child has a medical condition that means that they can't wear a mask... Which is fine.

The school has a duty of care to do what they can to protect this student. Remember this is completely uncharted territory for everyone and a bloody steep learning curve.

The school took the decision to put the child behind a safety screen, for the child's own safety... Yes they are apart from the group, but they are the most vulnerable of the group.

I guarantee if the child was let mingle freely you'd have a parent on saying "my child can't wear a mask and the school has done nothing. They are left to their own devices we feel totally abandoned"

Wesser

Yes.... imagine if this child got covid..... parent would then accuse the school.of negligence ....... discrimination! Because they didnt protect him against covid!

fits

Parabellum9 wrote: »

Absolute nonsense and shame on you for even spouting such ****. The school has a duty of care to ALL of its students, it’s not the schools problem if one child is unable to wear a face mask. The other students need to be protected and exemption or not, if you can’t wear a mask then stay at home or be prepared for some level of exclusion. That’s the way it works in the real world and is rightly the way it is working in schools as well.

No you are speaking nonsense. An exemption from mask wearing is no excuse to treat a child with special needs any differently

This thread is A perfect example of why public health were reluctant to make them mandatory in the first place.