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* Motors chat - round 12 *

[Deleted User]

This thread is for motoring topics which you feel are not worthy of starting a new thread for, banter from a meet or general motoring related chit chat.

Keep it clean, be nice and helpful.

Motors charter applies.

Round 11 is HERE

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extra-ordinary_

shanec1928 wrote: »

Is there a reason that a van isn’t in the running if it’s for business?

FYP :cool:

wotzgoingon

shanec1928 wrote: »

Is there a reason that a van isn’t the running if it’s for business?

What?

shanec1928

Is there a reason that a van isn’t in the running if it’s for business?

Edit in regards to kkv search for a vehicle

vintagevrs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm gonna look at them both tomorrow. See can I play them against each other on price, and take the car off whoever gives the best price (if either move, at all). Working in my favour is that the GT Line 132 has been sitting there over 3 weeks, and the 152 is nearly two weeks there.

So they're not exactly flying out the door.

Those are relatively short times for car sales I would have thought. Dealers will have a bit of wiggle but if you try and say I can get it for X amount elsewhere, they'll probably say away you go.

Good luck with the purchase though.

[Deleted User]

vintagevrs wrote: »

IV no dealings with that dealer but loads of indy dealers offer first class service in sales and service, so don't be surprised. A local place to me has always been first class for a family member that deals with them. They drop a courtesy car at her door and take her car away for servicing etc and in general just sort stuff out and are always professional and courteous. She had issues with door lock on an XF and again genuine parts ordered in,l from Jaguar in Belfast, car collected from door with an Audi left on drive and door sorted, car cleaned and returned. As a result, no surprise that's where she will always deal with now.

If I had an experience like that, I'd always return to them, too!

vintagevrs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Has anyone here had any dealings with them? I'm always suspicious that an indy dealer says they'll do that, but then never actually do... Mind you AIG seem to be around a while?

IV no dealings with that dealer but loads of indy dealers offer first class service in sales and service, so don't be surprised. A local place to me has always been first class for a family member that deals with them. They drop a courtesy car at her door and take her car away for servicing etc and in general just sort stuff out and are always professional and courteous. She had issues with door lock on an XF and again genuine parts ordered in,l from Jaguar in Belfast, car collected from door with an Audi left on drive and door sorted, car cleaned and returned. As a result, no surprise that's where she will always deal with now.

[Deleted User]

I'm gonna look at them both tomorrow. See can I play them against each other on price, and take the car off whoever gives the best price (if either move, at all). Working in my favour is that the GT Line 132 has been sitting there over 3 weeks, and the 152 is nearly two weeks there.

So they're not exactly flying out the door.

ba_barabus

Deleted User wrote: »

Also, can i ask, on the GT Line one i linked to, there's a USB slot on the face of the radio.. what's that all about? Is it to play music off a USB stick, or is it just an extra phone charging point, or..?

Both IIRC

wotzgoingon

To play music off USB stick.

[Deleted User]

Also, can i ask, on the GT Line one i linked to, there's a USB slot on the face of the radio.. what's that all about? Is it to play music off a USB stick, or is it just an extra phone charging point, or..?

[Deleted User]

ba_barabus wrote: »

Plastic steering wheel, basic seats, basic instrument cluster, basic aircon (not climate), different body styling and alloys etc etc

It's a plain jane model and tbh sat nav doesn't age well.

IIRC it'll also have a different suspension setup. It's a world away from the GT tbh. Not saying it's a bad car but just to assume a UK car is better specced isn't right.

To be honest, I use a dedicated sat nav anyway, so i'd never use a built in one, but i presumed the display could be changed to something else, and that it was just a generic screen.

The only issue you mentioned there that actually caught me off guard, was the plastic steering wheel. I hate them. But I genuinely only noticed there now that it was plastic.

To be honest, it's still a coin-toss situation between that and the 132 GT Line one. I just figured the 2 years newer would stand to me more in reliability terms (might give me a little longer before it collapses and dies).

ba_barabus

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you figure? Body styling aside, it seems to be the GT spec from the 2012 i was looking at, but with a nav screen and digital speedometer..?

The little wheels look silly on it (vs the nicer ones on the GT Line), but they'll be cheaper tyres, so that's a win for me.

Plastic steering wheel, basic seats, basic instrument cluster, basic aircon (not climate), different body styling and alloys etc etc

It's a plain jane model and tbh sat nav doesn't age well.

IIRC it'll also have a different suspension setup. It's a world away from the GT tbh. Not saying it's a bad car but just to assume a UK car is better specced isn't right.

[Deleted User]

ba_barabus wrote: »

That's a worse spec than any Irish one of that age

How do you figure? Body styling aside, it seems to be the GT spec from the 2012 i was looking at, but with a nav screen and digital speedometer..?

The little wheels look silly on it (vs the nicer ones on the GT Line), but they'll be cheaper tyres, so that's a win for me.

ba_barabus

Deleted User wrote: »

(spec level is generally better anyway) but in terms of VRT.]

That's a worse spec than any Irish one of that age

[Deleted User]

User1998 wrote: »

The number plates get fitted when you buy the car. An MOT can be transferred but MOT’s are only valid for 12 months so if the add says 2 year NCT it means they are giving it a new NCT. I’m almost certain it’s not possible for the NCT to have already been carried out as the car technically isn’t registered in Ireland yet so expect to wait a few weeks until the car is actually NCT’d with the current backlog. Open to correction on the last point

vintagevrs wrote: »

They'll nct it, and look after vrt including the cost of the plates.

Has anyone here had any dealings with them? I'm always suspicious that an indy dealer says they'll do that, but then never actually do... Mind you AIG seem to be around a while?

I googled them and a boards thread from 2015 came up, and mentioned they were in Dunboyne 'before' (I believe they moved from dunboyne to dublin and back again, but kept the name, so if they're around a while you'd assume they must be somewhat okay..)

[Deleted User]

colm_mcm wrote: »

The gaps in the boot door look massive?

Probably just looks that way in photos. The BLUE ONE looks the same.

vintagevrs

They'll nct it, and look after vrt including the cost of the plates.

User1998

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah that sounds promising. Do i have to go and buy number plates and have them fitted or anything like that? Also, does an NCT need doing, or does it's MOT (assuming it has one) carry over?

(It's marked as a 2 year NCT)

The number plates get fitted when you buy the car. An MOT can be transferred but MOT’s are only valid for 12 months so if the add says 2 year NCT it means they are giving it a new NCT. I’m almost certain it’s not possible for the NCT to have already been carried out as the car technically isn’t registered in Ireland yet so expect to wait a few weeks until the car is actually NCT’d with the current backlog. Open to correction on the last point

colm_mcm

The gaps in the boot door look massive?

[Deleted User]

User1998 wrote: »

If they’re a proper dealer with a TAN number (which they seem to be) the car will be pre VRT’d and once the deal is done the car gets registered in your name and you become the first owner in Ireland.

Ah that sounds promising. Do i have to go and buy number plates and have them fitted or anything like that? Also, does an NCT need doing, or does it's MOT (assuming it has one) carry over?

(It's marked as a 2 year NCT)

User1998

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Folks, what's the craic with buying a car off an indy dealer that's on UK plates? UK imports don't bother me (spec level is generally better anyway) but in terms of VRT.

I'm looking at this, but I believe it's still on UK plates (I believe that dealer sells mostly UK stuff). If the car is listed at 10k, but vrt is 2k, will they only charge me 8k on the day and let me go and VRT it, or do they expect you to pay VRT on top of the price (presumably not, or they'd mention it in the ad somewhere).

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/152-renault-megane-expression-engery-fsh-wa/25704846

If they’re a proper dealer with a TAN number (which they seem to be) the car will be pre VRT’d and once the deal is done the car gets registered in your name and you become the first owner in Ireland.

[Deleted User]

Folks, what's the craic with buying a car off an indy dealer that's on UK plates? UK imports don't bother me (spec level is generally better anyway) but in terms of VRT.

I'm looking at this, but I believe it's still on UK plates (I believe that dealer sells mostly UK stuff). If the car is listed at 10k, but vrt is 2k, will they only charge me 8k on the day and let me go and VRT it, or do they expect you to pay VRT on top of the price (presumably not, or they'd mention it in the ad somewhere).

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/152-renault-megane-expression-engery-fsh-wa/25704846

[Deleted User]

punisher5112 wrote: »

Kkv why didn't he do a diagnostics on it?

He did, said it didn't bring anything up.

Old diesel

Someone I know via Social media is looking for an Astra type car in the 5 to 8 k range.

Any decent dealer recommendations in Dublin area for that price range.

Thank you.

wonski

Unless the service provider takes the car you want to buy for a proper diagnostic with on ramp visual inspection there is no way I would pay someone 150 for just driving the car and having a look.

What if he tells you there is knocking in the suspension when he drove it, do you walk away?

I paid 180 euro today for tie rod ends end arb links to a local mechanic. Simple job that wouldn't stop me from buying a car.

KKV you could end up with hundreds euro bill and no car in the end.

If they do no computer diagnostic, no on ramp inspection they give you as much feedback as you can do yourself by driving the car IMO.

Every car can have issues, but unless they can point exactly what's wrong and how much it costs to make it right, they are useless.

Ta ceist agam

User1998 wrote: »

He did say a car I was selling was 100%, literally not a thing wrong with it.. and it had over 150k miles, the only negative he could find was that it was high mileage. And your man still didn’t buy it, wasted my entire evening

The guy is a sham, don't know why KKV keeps using him, no wonder he's had problems with so many cars, by not taking advice on here!

punisher5112

Kkv why didn't he do a diagnostics on it?

User1998

Augeo wrote: »

I can't imagine him saying anything is 100% perfect TBH and that's what you want to hear presumably.... You could get him to check out 5 cars and still be afraid to pull trigger on any if them.

With the uncoded injector theory what did the seller say?

He did say a car I was selling was 100%, literally not a thing wrong with it.. and it had over 150k miles, the only negative he could find was that it was high mileage. And your man still didn’t buy it, wasted my entire evening

[Deleted User]

Augeo wrote: »

I can't imagine him saying anything is 100% perfect TBH and that's what you want to hear presumably.... You could get him to check out 5 cars and still be afraid to pull trigger on any if them.

With the uncoded injector theory what did the seller say?

Ah much like the NCT, I am sure he would give two thumbs up to a car, but would do so in the knowledge that he's telling you that is how the car was at a particular point in time. Doesn't mean it won't explode into a ball of fire 5 minutes later.

Had he said anything other than something engine related I wouldn't have been as fussed, to be honest.

I haven't contacted the seller about it. I know he's a trader and will either shrug his shoulders or tell me it's a sign of a good solid car or something.

wotzgoingon

I was looking at a car on Donedeal in Donegal which is UK reg.(wasn't looking to buy but looking at it anyway) Looked up the MOT and was low on oil a few times over the years while brought into the test. Not a good sign at all. Great system to be able to look stuff up like that.