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General gaming discussion

Retr0gamer

Right going to give this a go. A general gaming discussion thread. The rest of the forum seems to be dedicated to discussing just the big new games and games stories. Here you can just talk about whatever. What you have been playing at the moment, thoughts on it, what's better xbox or playstation. OK maybe not the last one.

Right to kick things off. Final Fantasy 12. I've let people know how much I hate this game in the past but I'm currently playing the recent zodiac age release and... actually enjoying it. I'm doing all the hunts and lots of exploring so I'm not as underlevelled anymore. The new job system is fantastic and way better than the free for all that was the original license board. You tend to use under utilised skills rather the Han nuking everything with the best attacks. Also it took a while but the battle system is starting to make sense and there's some good battles in the later half of the game. Takes a while to get theready though.

I still think the xenoblade games are a far better expression of the ideas in ff12 but it's not the **** show I orginally had it pegged as. The story is garbage though. Starts off great but once you hit Archades it's very obviously rushed.

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Parsnips

Niska wrote: »

Ouch! Went on sale this morning.

FFS

Niska

Parsnips wrote: »

Whaaa. WTF. When did that happen.
I paid €30 for it last night after the recommendations on this thread.

Ouch! Went on sale this morning.

Parsnips

Niska wrote: »

And it's (serendipitously) on sale:

https://psprices.com/region-ie/game/2824390/my-time-at-portia

Whaaa. WTF. When did that happen.
I paid €30 for it last night after the recommendations on this thread.

SomeSayKos

Thecageyone wrote: »

https://www.palicomp.co.uk/

I had mine built without any OS which saved about £100 on top too [end price was £750 for mine though I added some extras myself (extra fans, extra HDD, wi-fi receiver) bringing it to about 850 inc delivery].

I did look into a few other similar sites but they were either much more expensive or they had atrocious reviews on the likes of Trust etc. Someone on another forum tipped me off to Palicomp, so I gave them a quick ring [it is obviously a UK line just be consious of that] to see how things would go shipping to Ireland. They answered right away, which is good, and talked me through it all within a couple minutes - this was during lockdown but I paid the extra £25 priority build and had it built and delivered within a week from when i put the complete order through

Thanks for that!

Thecageyone

SomeSayKos wrote: »

What was the name of the site? I wouldn't looking into something like this

https://www.palicomp.co.uk/

I had mine built without any OS which saved about £100 on top too [end price was £750 for mine though I added some extras myself (extra fans, extra HDD, wi-fi receiver) bringing it to about 850 inc delivery].

I did look into a few other similar sites but they were either much more expensive or they had atrocious reviews on the likes of Trust etc. Someone on another forum tipped me off to Palicomp, so I gave them a quick ring [it is obviously a UK line just be consious of that] to see how things would go shipping to Ireland. They answered right away, which is good, and talked me through it all within a couple minutes - this was during lockdown but I paid the extra £25 priority build and had it built and delivered within a week from when i put the complete order through

SomeSayKos

Thecageyone wrote: »

I had mine custom built for me, used a UK site where you select all the compononts and they put it all together for you - 2 reasons: 1, I'm useless with cable managment and electrics in general and 2: there was a very good sale on at the time if you selected a specific start set up [you could from there add or remove anything you desired] I paid less for all brand new components plus delivery from the UK than I would have for lesser spec used on adverts here. We really get rode for PC pricing in this country

What was the name of the site? I wouldn't looking into something like this

MOH

JimBurnley wrote: »

AC7 and any Assassin's Creed

Far Cry 3 and any other Far Cry. Although not sure that counts since they're all exactly the same game.

Niska

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

My time in portia is fantastic, that would be my recommendation.

And it's (serendipitously) on sale:

https://psprices.com/region-ie/game/2824390/my-time-at-portia

Sephiroth_dude

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Iron Harvest is out today, was hoping to get it but it doesn't look like a gtx 770 will run it .

I got the game and it worked fine, better than I imagined but it wasn't fun to play at all imo, don't know what it was, as I was a huge fan of coh back in the day, only 6 skirmish maps, so I've requested a refund, they probably won't give it to me as I've 2.3 hours played :rolleyes:.

Parsnips

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Dark Souls.

Yep. Ill be right on it

Sephiroth_dude

Parsnips wrote: »

Can someone tell me what is the closest thing to Animal crossing on PS4.
Im hearing so much about this game but not forking out for a new system

Thecageyone wrote: »

My Time in Portia, Farm together, Stardew Valley as suggested also

My time in portia is fantastic, that would be my recommendation.

Thecageyone

Parsnips wrote: »

Can someone tell me what is the closest thing to Animal crossing on PS4.
Im hearing so much about this game but not forking out for a new system

My Time in Portia, Farm together, Stardew Valley as suggested also

RobertFoster

Parsnips wrote: »

Can someone tell me what is the closest thing to Animal crossing on PS4.
Im hearing so much about this game but not forking out for a new system

Try Stardew Valley.

gimli2112

Attempting to convert by deception now I see

Retr0gamer

Parsnips wrote: »

Can someone tell me what is the closest thing to Animal crossing on PS4.
Im hearing so much about this game but not forking out for a new system

Dark Souls.

Parsnips

Can someone tell me what is the closest thing to Animal crossing on PS4.
Im hearing so much about this game but not forking out for a new system

Mr Crispy

And Armored Core!

PopePalpatine

JimBurnley wrote: »

AC7 and any Assassin's Creed

Hello, have you heard of Our Lord and Saviour Assetto Corsa? :pac:

...or Animal Crossing?

Azza

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Could retro or someone summarise the nvidia stuff later ?

I'm hoping there's a nice sweet spot with the 3070, the 80 and 90 seem like they just devour power and take up so much space.

To summarize, the new Nvidia GPU's are a little bit faster than pixelburps GT730M 2 GB...just a tad though.

Mr Crispy

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Could retro or someone summarise the nvidia stuff later ?

I'm hoping there's a nice sweet spot with the 3070, the 80 and 90 seem like they just devour power and take up so much space.

There's a dedicated thread in the Building and Upgrading forum.

one armed dwarf

Could retro or someone summarise the nvidia stuff later ?

I'm hoping there's a nice sweet spot with the 3070, the 80 and 90 seem like they just devour power and take up so much space.

Azza

Yes NVIDIA have revealed anti hair dryer technology!

Azza

one armed dwarf wrote: »

I've had mixed success with that DLSS thing. It can look better but you can get weird artifacts. Like in Death Stranding the phone wires sort of create ghosty outlines. Control has a lot of noise on carpets and doors. I'd prefer to play these games native, or at least I wish I could in the case of Control.

The first implementations of DLSS where not meant to be greatally but digital foundry was absolutely glowing of its use in Death Stranding. They gave the impression that the visually artifacts where extremely minor blemishes that where well worth putting up with.

JimBurnley

Penn wrote: »

Games I keep getting confused:

The Outer Worlds / The Outer Wilds
Hollow Knight / Shovel Knight

(could probably add another 100 to the list if I actually knew I was getting them confused)

AC7 and any Assassin's Creed

one armed dwarf

I've had mixed success with that DLSS thing. It can look better but you can get weird artifacts. Like in Death Stranding the phone wires sort of create ghosty outlines. Control has a lot of noise on carpets and doors. I'd prefer to play these games native, or at least I wish I could in the case of Control.

Azza

Retr0gamer wrote: »

New Nvidia 30XX series cards to be shown off today at 5pm.

All I know is no matter how powerful they are FFXIII-2 is still going to run like absolute **** on them. **** whoever ported that game.

And I also know that Digital Foundry will still be using Crysis 3 to test them.

Nvidia are up to 80% GPU market share on PC now. Not that AMD is doing terrible, its GPU sales are up as well, just not as much as Nvidia's.

Be interesting to see what both Nvidia and AMD have up their sleeves with Ampere and Big Navi. Nvida have been dominate at the high end for years and have such a lead its difficult to see AMD catching up, even if the initial performance rumors from Big Navi are true.

There was speculation that the at the high end Big Navi was up to 50% faster than an RTX 2080Ti but more recent reports from AIB manufacturers suggest performance is very similar to the 2080Ti and in best case scenario's its up to 15% faster.

AMD should be able to offer ray tracing this generation and they might be able to leverage the fact that it there GPU's that will be powering both the PS5 and Xbox Series consoles. It might be that its implementation of ray tracing ends up the de-facto standard way of implementation RT this generation. If architecturally AMD's new GPU's and the next gen console GPU's are very similar that might ensure good optimization towards AMD hardware as well.

I believe Nvidia are moving to a 7nm process for Ampere so a big jump in general performance should be possible. Regardless of that it looks like DLSS is a killer feature that AMD can't answer at the moment. Its implementation in Death Stranding offered better than native 4K image quality at high frame rates even on mid level GPU's.

Ray Tracing wise I expect Ampere to offer performance improvements there as well.

How knows what other features Nvidia might offer. The only question is how much are they going charge for it?

As for Crysis 3, all I can say is....THE ALPHA CEPH!!!!!

johnny_ultimate

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Did you have one of those 2500k processors? They really were troopers. GPU is the big general upgrade I've found. Depending on the game, 32gb can really shine as well.

i5-4690. Still does the job for the most part to be fair, just gradually showing its age

Thecageyone

SomeSayKos wrote: »

I always think about building a gaming pc, but then I start looking at bits and I get annoyed and then I stop. Ah well. I guess i'm just a console constable.

I had mine custom built for me, used a UK site where you select all the compononts and they put it all together for you - 2 reasons: 1, I'm useless with cable managment and electrics in general and 2: there was a very good sale on at the time if you selected a specific start set up [you could from there add or remove anything you desired] I paid less for all brand new components plus delivery from the UK than I would have for lesser spec used on adverts here. We really get rode for PC pricing in this country

[Deleted User]

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Yeah I updated my GPU around six months ago and am now eyeing a CPU upgrade to really allow it shine, but I’ll need to get a new motherboard and RAM on top of it. It certainly ain’t cheap to get anywhere near a reasonably solid one that’ll last a good few years. And this is my first CPU upgrade since building the PC - basically it’s close to a full rebuild (other than the PSU and hard drives)!

Did you have one of those 2500k processors? They really were troopers. GPU is the big general upgrade I've found. Depending on the game, 32gb can really shine as well.

Azza

Retr0gamer wrote: »

My CPU has similarly been with me for years with nothing more than an upgrade from a 970 to a 1070.

Next upgrade will be pretty much a rebuild. New GPU, CPU, motherboard, faster ram, NVE SSD. Current system is doing alright at the moment even if the 1070 isn't quite enough to get 60 fps at my monitors 3440p resolution but pretty great at 1440p. I'll probably look at a new monitor as well. Love my ultra wide montior but high refresh is so damn nice and would love an OLED for those sexy black levels, even if I'll miss watching 21:9 films without letterboxing.

Probably going to wait for the 30XX series cards super equivalents before I buy, get something that will trounce the next gen consoles and keep up with games for the next few years.

Is there even such things as OLED monitors?

Where I'm living at the moment we have an 55" OLED TV and it was really looking great with native 4K and HDR content. Blacks are fantastic too but its suffering bad burn in at this point in its life.

My PC monitor is a 27" 16:9 165Hz 1440p VA monitor. Believe its the best balance of size, responsiveness and speed at a resolution that's not too taxing on GPU's and where achieving high frame rates is somewhat practical. Has basic entry level HDR 400 support too, but its miles away from what the OLED TV can do with HDR. But still better than not having it and Windows support for HDR is finally working okay. PC still lacks games that support HDR compared to console though its improving.

Better HDR support is the one thing that would make me consider upgrading my monitor down the road. I was more impressed by HDR than from going from 1080p to 4K on the TV. But I wouldn't want to give up high frame rates and Freesync/G-Sync for it. The trade off would be too high.