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Star Trek: Lower Decks (animated series)

Goodshape

Star Trek: Lower Decks has been confirmed as an animated comedy series from Rick and Morty head writer, Mike McMahon.

deadline.com wrote:

The expansion of CBS All Access’ Star Trek universe continues with a two-season order to Star Trek: Lower Decks, a half-hour adult animated comedy series from Rick and Morty head writer and executive producer Mike McMahan, a long-time Star Trek fan. Star Trek: Lower Decks, which will focus on the support crew serving on one of Starfleet’s least important ships.

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“Mike won our hearts with his first sentence: ‘I want to do a show about the people who put the yellow cartridge in the food replicator so a banana can come out the other end.’

Interesting! https://deadline.com/2018/10/star-trek-lower-decks-animated-series-rick-and-morty-mike-mcmahan-alex-kurtzman-cbs-all-access-1202489207/

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Stark

On the plus side for him, he did seem to get all the privileges of being a senior officer including plush spacious private quarters and being invited to all the senior staff meetings.

I generally wonder what extra privileges there are at each level.

Quarters is an obvious one. Many starship classes (including the Cerrito) make Ensigns share quarters while Lieutenant and higher get private quarters with more senior ranks get the more spacious plush ones with the nice window views. Harry already had nice quarters so no advantage for him there.
Extra holodeck time?
On Voyager, more replicator rations? Though it doesn't look like Janeway went for that as it seemed the senior officers had to ration just as much as the junior officers.
Maybe a few extra shore leave days here and there.
I can't image nicer replicator menu as depicted on Lower Decks being an actual thing outside of the animated comedy setting.

Doesn't seem like Harry was losing out other than not having the collar pip.

Rawr

Stark wrote: »

Quarters is an obvious one. Many starship classes (including the Cerrito) make Ensigns share quarters while Lieutenant and higher get private quarters with more senior ranks get the more spacious plush ones with the nice window views. Harry already had nice quarters so no advantage for him there.

That's one element I kind of enjoyed about Lower Decks is that they managed to one-up a concept of the original TNG episode Lower Decks by tossing the junior officers into corridor bunks. They don't even get a door!

You need to work your way up from being slightly less mediocre to earn some shared quarters

Just seemed wierd that Harry never got past the Ensign stage, despite having all of the trappings of a Lieutenant aboard Voyager. Although...I guess that ship was choc full of NCOs....which means an Ensign would outrank most people there anyway....

Evade

Rawr wrote: »

I always wished they'd do that more too. I get that budget/time constrains made it easier to just put a human there, but it would have been good to see more alien captains. It was a pan-galactic organisation after-all. Glad to see that animation is giving them a chance to draw in a properly alien-rich Starfleet.

Seth McFarlane made a point on one of the early season Family Guy commentaries that the great thing about animation is you can make a cut away gag in hell and it costs about as much as setting it anywhere else. Lower decks is the place to up the alien count as it costs about as much to design a human character as any other.

Evade

Rawr wrote: »

That's one element I kind of enjoyed about Lower Decks is that they managed to one-up a concept of the original TNG episode Lower Decks by tossing the junior officers into corridor bunks. They don't even get a door!

Undiscovered Country had corridor bunks on the Enterprise-A.

TheValeyard

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I want to see a Gallamite

A Tholian Hive. Or the Breen without the helmet and its something completely mental that cgi would be unable to copy successfully

TheValeyard

Evade wrote: »

Undiscovered Country had corridor bunks on the Enterprise-A.

So did the Excelsior

pixelburp

Would bunks be against the spirit of the Federation? Seems like giving people something fundamentally less than what they'd probably be entitled too on Earth / a Federation world isn't particularly Utopian.

Maybe Federation ships should be 99% automated, and only have a dozen sapients to act as hands-on staff. If nothing else it'd be cheaper to cast for

Evade

Starfleet is still a hierarchical meritocracy so "rank has it's privileges" is probably still a common saying in the 24th century. That or it's a little Heinleinien, "something given has no value."

TheValeyard

Surely not all aliens can sleep on bunk beds?

breezy1985

Inviere wrote: »

Colour me not at all interested in a Star Trek themed adult comedy animated show How have we gone from Darmok and Jalad, to this level??

Absolute shaka

[Deleted User]

Inviere wrote: »

Colour me not at all interested in a Star Trek themed adult comedy animated show How have we gone from Darmok and Jalad, to this level??

Sub Rosa, Allamaraine etc

pixelburp

Guys this is a Very Serious Scifi show, any comedy should be purely accidental:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M53aE9jLdU

Rawr

Evade wrote: »

Starfleet is still a hierarchical meritocracy so "rank has it's privileges" is probably still a common saying in the 24th century. That or it's a little Heinleinien, "something given has no value."

I kind of like the idea that most of crew bunk this way. Makes Starfleet feel more like a space navy, which is what I always imagined it was.

I guess we got spoiled with Enterprise D. She was essentially a space cruise liner with warp nacelles

Rawr

pah wrote: »

When the walls fell

Star Trek with new series launched
Netflix at court, the court of silence
CBS All Access, with fists region closed
Rawr on the search engine
Rawr and Chrome at the streaming site
Shaka when the URL failed
Rawr his face black his eyes red
Working URL with arms wide
Rawr, at rest

Evade

Rawr wrote: »

I kind of like the idea that most of crew bunk this way. Makes Starfleet feel more like a space navy, which is what I always imagined it was.

I guess we got spoiled with Enterprise D. She was essentially a space cruise liner with warp nacelles

At least they don't have to hot bunk under normal circumstances like they do on submarines. The realism issue with the shared quarters on ships in Star Trek is the number of crew compared to the size of the ship. Voyager is a bit bigger than a Nimitz class carrier but only has a crew of ~150 compared to up to 6,000.

AMKC

I want to see some Grizzellas in it.

[Deleted User]

AMKC wrote: »

I want to see some Grizzellas in it.

You can see them...

in 6 months

Goodshape

Episode 5 : really enjoyed it! Maybe the best one yet.

Good to see other characters getting a bit more time – felt less like The Mariner and Boimler Show. Seeing the new ship was fun. Had a chuckle when it totally dwarfed the Cerritos in the opening shot.

I love that everyone's potentially suspicious of everything, like Mariner vs Boimler's girlfriend. Because of course you would be!

And a decent little swicheroo at the end. Poor Boimler.

TheValeyard

I liked that episode. Its a strong show for what it is. Liked the flashback to DS9 and the Olympic-class medical ship.

Couple of very funny moments, especially in the Turbolift and life on an exciting ship

I love my Trek ships and really liked that new style of vessel the USS Vancouver, a Parliament class ship.

Slydice

5: This one reminded me of the slow moving tng episodes that'd get ya thinking. This felt a bit light on that. Was grand though.

_Kaiser_

Yea this was a marked improvement with Mariner significantly toned down from previous episodes. Good A, B and C plots and actually an enjoyable episode all round.

Rawr

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Yea this was a marked improvement with Mariner significantly toned down from previous episodes. Good A, B and C plots and actually an enjoyable episode all round.

I agree. That was pretty good. I was surprised to see them actually show the late TNG-era grey uniform in that flashback. They actually gave a damn about uniform continuity :eek: The more I see this the more I'm convinced that the usual Secret Hideout folk were not involved. Kurtzman probably just rubber-stamped this while he was focused on Discovery S3 or something...

I was laughing a good bit at what the Computer managed to determine as "cool" clothes.

Stark

Enjoyed the latest episode. Mariner was much more likeable this episode. I think if they keep her at this level of intensity for the remainder of the series, it should be in a good place.

I'm curious how old she is. That flashback seemed to be set not long after the events of First Contact. And it has been hinted a few times throughout the series that aside from rank, she's quite senior and was probably full Lieutenant* at some point but has been demoted for misconduct on at least one occasion.

* I'm basing that guess on her being given a promotion directly to full Lieutenant instead of Lieutenant JG in the last episode. Presuming it was an Ensign/Lt. Paris style restoration of rank as opposed to a traditional promotion.

Agent Coulson

Every episode feels very shouty to me.

Rawr

Stark wrote: »

I'm curious how old she is. That flashback seemed to be set not long after the events of First Contact. And it has been hinted a few times throughout the series that aside from rank, she's quite senior and was probably full Lieutenant* at some point but has been demoted for misconduct on at least one occasion.

* I'm basing that guess on her being given a promotion directly to full Lieutenant instead of Lieutenant JG in the last episode. Presuming it was an Ensign/Lt. Paris style restoration of rank as opposed to a traditional promotion.

My guess is that the Late-TNG era Grey uniform lasted well beyond the Dominion War. It was a probably a few years before they started using the colourful Generations re-tool uniform you see in Lower Decks. The Dominion War ended in 2375, which is only 5 years before the events of this show.

I imagine that the current uniform in Lower Decks is pretty new and if you flashback only a year or so earlier you'd have them in the Grey uniform.

I like your theory about her rank. It did seem odd that they jumped a rank with her, but it would be interesting if that was a *restored* rank. I wonder if they'll reveal a story of her being senior staff but then something serious happened that resulted in her demotion, her indifference to command, and possibly also the reason she's been posted on her own mother's starship. (Possibly to keep an eye on her / take care of her)

I kind of base this on the flashback at DS9. She seemed far more mellow in that flashback compared to the current time. I sense a bit of character development at play....and I like it

I feared I'd end up hating Mariner, but she was pretty good in this episode. To parrot one Youtuber (who's name I've now forgotten) Mariner feels like what Micheal Burnham *should* have been. If you had her written like Mariner, I might have actually grown to like that character.

_Kaiser_

I rewatched the flashback just now and it makes no sense in that while it is obviously set post-Nemesis and DS9 (uniforms, ship class), the (current?) events they're talking about regarding the Enterprise and Lore sound like TNG's "Descent"

Goodshape

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I rewatched the flashback just now and it makes no sense in that while it is obviously set post-Nemesis and DS9 (uniforms, ship class), the (current?) events they're talking about regarding the Enterprise and Lore sound like TNG's "Descent"

Absolutely irredeemable. One star!!

:pac:

I did notice that though, yeah. Bit silly alright. A lot of the franchise name dropping (and there is A LOT of it) seems pretty careless though. Wasn't Boimler just shouting "WORF WORF WORF" for no reason at all in the Bat'leth scene in the first episode? And "Romulan whiskey". And plenty of other bad examples.

Seems almost odd because most of the more subtle background references are great.

Stark

Watched the trailer for the next few episodes

Good news, Q makes an appearance! Bad news, from the brief clip sounds like a generic sounding voice and not John DeLancie

FutureGuy

Stark wrote: »

Watched the trailer for the next few episodes

It is the actor.

TheValeyard

FutureGuy wrote: »

It is the actor.

Fcuking A1, boom yeah!!!