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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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[Deleted User]

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Well he certainly didn't know that they were crooks before he hired them otherwise he wouldn't have hired them.

He actively interfered in their investigations and got some of them out of jail....

da_miser

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Are you sure you know anything about San Francisco, at all? Apart from the fact that it's a city with a (slight) growth rate, nobody is leaving because of crime. If people are leaving SF, it's almost always because of the high cost of living and ridiculous rents.

Who is in charge of SF?
Could the city be run by Dems?
Could it be the Dems who legalised shop lifting?
Could it be the city is going to rack and ruin under Dem control?

LessOutragePlz

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

these are not family members. they are people he hired. he seems to hire a lot of crooks. maybe he is just unlucky?

Well he certainly didn't know that they were crooks before he hired them otherwise he wouldn't have hired them.

namloc1980

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

The best you could say is that it shows an awful poor sense of judgment on Trump's behalf that he keeps hiring criminals and shady characters to job government posts. And that's being kind. If you or I hired criminals in our jobs at the rate Trump does we'd be swiftly given the door.

Tell me how

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

What happened to 'I hire the best people'?

How can he be considered the 'Law and Order' President when he can't even keep the law within his inner circle?

What about him pardoning Roger Stone who threatened to flip on him?

As for crimes he has been convicted of? How about having to pay fines for misuse of charity funds for a start.
Law and Order President. Should be embarrassed to suggest it.

da_miser

threeball wrote: »

Why don't you go out, lick a few door handles and test your theory.

Why do that when i can go to the pub with friends have a feed of drink and pop next door to the bookies and have a good day out.

namloc1980

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

a new low, even for the GOP. they manipulated the voice of Ady Barkan to create a fake video.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/30/ady-barkan-scalise-twitter-video/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_politics

They'll go as low as they can. Absolutely disgusting. The "party of christian values". I'm sure the Trumpists will be along soon to defend this.

ohnonotgmail

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

these are not family members. they are people he hired. he seems to hire a lot of crooks. maybe he is just unlucky?

dwayneshintzy

da_miser wrote: »

then we have San Francisco, its possibly a lost cause, shop lifting is now legal, people are fleeing in droves.

Are you sure you know anything about San Francisco, at all? Apart from the fact that it's a city with a (slight) growth rate, nobody is leaving because of crime. If people are leaving SF, it's almost always because of the high cost of living and ridiculous rents.

LessOutragePlz

Tell me how wrote: »

That BS might wash on Twitter or at a Trump rally, any person half paying attention will see it for what it is.

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

ohnonotgmail

a new low, even for the GOP. they manipulated the voice of Ady Barkan to create a fake video.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/30/ady-barkan-scalise-twitter-video/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_politics

Twitter flagged a video shared by the second-ranking House Republican on Saturday as “manipulated,” as it spliced quotes together from an activist who speaks through computer voice assistance, making it sound as though he’d convinced Joe Biden to defund police departments.

“I have lost my ability to speak, but not my agency or my thoughts,” Ady Barkan wrote to Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the House minority whip, in a Sunday tweet. “You and your team have doctored my words for your own political gain. Please remove this video immediately. You owe the entire disability community an apology.”

The dispute came down to two words from an interview Biden gave Barkan at the start of July. Barkan, who has amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), speaks with the use of a device that reads his eye movements and translates them to an artificial voice. The interview, one of many that Barkan had done with Democratic presidential candidates, turned at one point to whether Biden would shift some funding from armed policing to social welfare.

[Deleted User]

da_miser wrote: »

Read the CDC report, how many of them where Covid19 only?
As it stands if you have Covid19 and get run over by a truck, its classed as a Covid19 death.

People can see with their own eyes that its no where near as bad as the panic merchants would have you believe, the public are getting on with living their lives, social distancing is on the way out , you dont have to like it but that is the fact, so answer me this, why are we not seeing the death rate rise?
Could it be Covid19 has already burned across the country and killed all its going to kill bar a few stragglers?
The nation was closes when we where getting 10 new infected a day, now we get 150 infected a day and they are opening the schools, do you not think that is strange?

As already pointed out, the fact they had pre-existing conditions does not mean they would be dead even if we didn't have covid. Excess deaths are over two hundred thousand, care to explain that one? Pretty shameful that you're choosing to misrepresent the CDC and ignore the hundreds of thousands who have died that would still be alive today.

eeepaulo

da_miser wrote: »

Read the CDC report, how many of them where Covid19 only?
As it stands if you have Covid19 and get run over by a truck, its classed as a Covid19 death.

People can see with their own eyes that its no where near as bad as the panic merchants would have you believe, the public are getting on with living their lives, social distancing is on the way out , you dont have to like it but that is the fact, so answer me this, why are we not seeing the death rate rise?
Could it be Covid19 has already burned across the country and killed all its going to kill bar a few stragglers?
The nation was closes when we where getting 10 new infected a day, now we get 150 infected a day and they are opening the schools, do you not think that is strange?

namloc1980

da_miser wrote: »

Read the CDC report, how many of them where Covid19 only?
As it stands if you have Covid19 and get run over by a truck, its classed as a Covid19 death.

People can see with their own eyes that its no where near as bad as the panic merchants would have you believe, the public are getting on with living their lives, social distancing is on the way out , you dont have to like it but that is the fact, so answer me this, why are we not seeing the death rate rise?
Could it be Covid19 has already burned across the country and killed all its going to kill bar a few stragglers?
The nation was closes when we where getting 10 new infected a day, now we get 150 infected a day and they are opening the schools, do you not think that is strange?

Did YOU read the report? 200k excess deaths due to Covid and counting. Just because someone had an underlying condition doesn't mean they would have died in the last few months because of that, regardless of Covid. Disgusting and callous to write off people with underlying conditions as statistics and "shur they would've died at some point anyway". Trump supposedly wants to protect people with underlying conditions but if someone with diabetes or heart disease dies from Covid...tough shit. That's morally repugnant. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard

threeball

da_miser wrote: »

Read the CDC report, how many of them where Covid19 only?
As it stands if you have Covid19 and get run over by a truck, its classed as a Covid19 death.

People can see with their own eyes that its no where near as bad as the panic merchants would have you believe, the public are getting on with living their lives, social distancing is on the way out , you dont have to like it but that is the fact, so answer me this, why are we not seeing the death rate rise?
Could it be Covid19 has already burned across the country and killed all its going to kill bar a few stragglers?
The nation was closes when we where getting 10 new infected a day, now we get 150 infected a day and they are opening the schools, do you not think that is strange?

Why don't you go out, lick a few door handles and test your theory.

da_miser

Deleted User wrote: »

250,000 deaths by November isn't that bad? What world are you living in?

Read the CDC report, how many of them where Covid19 only?
As it stands if you have Covid19 and get run over by a truck, its classed as a Covid19 death.

People can see with their own eyes that its no where near as bad as the panic merchants would have you believe, the public are getting on with living their lives, social distancing is on the way out , you dont have to like it but that is the fact, so answer me this, why are we not seeing the death rate rise?
Could it be Covid19 has already burned across the country and killed all its going to kill bar a few stragglers?
The nation was closes when we where getting 10 new infected a day, now we get 150 infected a day and they are opening the schools, do you not think that is strange?

namloc1980

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they look extremely like yesterdays talking points.

Every day has the same talking points for the Trumpists in fairness.

ohnonotgmail

namloc1980 wrote: »

Looks like you got the talking points for the day. Bringing up the CDC one is just offensive at this stage - it's been debunked multiple times already. It's not saying what you think it's saying or should I say what the talking point is telling you to believe.

they look extremely like yesterdays talking points.

namloc1980

da_miser wrote: »

I won money on Trump in 16 and i will win even more on Trump this November.

Sure you did. :pac:

namloc1980

da_miser wrote: »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

Totally overblown, CDC now walking back on the dire predictions, you can see it with your own two eyes, the public are rejecting fear and getting on with living their lives.
Not just in the states but here in Ireland and rest of the EU as well.
Covid19 will not be the election issue, it will be the Dems endorsing BLM/ANTIFA and letting Dem run cities burn .
People are getting a preview of a Dem run country and will reject it big time and vote Trump.
Trump is now the law and order candidate, he will be put in the white house for a second term by the events unfolding in Dem run cities.

Looks like you got the talking points for the day. Bringing up the CDC one is just offensive at this stage - it's been debunked multiple times already. It's not saying what you think it's saying or should I say what the talking point is telling you to believe.

ohnonotgmail

da_miser wrote: »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

Totally overblown, CDC now walking back on the dire predictions, you can see it with your own two eyes, the public are rejecting fear and getting on with living their lives.
Not just in the states but here in Ireland and rest of the EU as well.
Covid19 will not be the election issue, it will be the Dems endorsing BLM/ANTIFA and letting Dem run cities burn .
People are getting a preview of a Dem run country and will reject it big time and vote Trump.
Trump is now the law and order candidate, he will be put in the white house for a second term by the events unfolding in Dem run cities.

trump supporters keep posting that link for some reason. 200,000 deaths due to covid and not a mention of them from Trump.

Tell me how

da_miser wrote: »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

Totally overblown, CDC now walking back on the dire predictions, you can see it with your own two eyes, the public are rejecting fear and getting on with living their lives.
Not just in the states but here in Ireland and rest of the EU as well.
Covid19 will not be the election issue, it will be the Dems endorsing BLM/ANTIFA and letting Dem run cities burn .
People are getting a preview of a Dem run country and will reject it big time and vote Trump.
Trump is now the law and order candidate, he will be put in the white house for a second term by the events unfolding in Dem run cities.

That BS might wash on Twitter or at a Trump rally, any person half paying attention will see it for what it is.

[Deleted User]

da_miser wrote: »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

Totally overblown, CDC now walking back on the dire predictions, you can see it with your own two eyes, the public are rejecting fear and getting on with living their lives.
Not just in the states but here in Ireland and rest of the EU as well.
Covid19 will not be the election issue, it will be the Dems endorsing BLM/ANTIFA and letting Dem run cities burn .
People are getting a preview of a Dem run country and will reject it big time and vote Trump.
Trump is now the law and order candidate, he will be put in the white house for a second term by the events unfolding in Dem run cities.

250,000 deaths by November isn't that bad? What world are you living in?

da_miser

namloc1980 wrote: »

You'd think a Trump supporter wouldn't get sucked in by the bookies after 2016. Comical.

I won money on Trump in 16 and i will win even more on Trump this November.

Cody montana

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

realising that his time as president is coming to an end trump decides to start auditioning for a new career on Broadway

The lying king?

da_miser

Cody montana wrote: »

It’s all deflection from the coronavirus, which is still running rampant under Trump.

I’d say come November, the USA will be in a very bad spot.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

Totally overblown, CDC now walking back on the dire predictions, you can see it with your own two eyes, the public are rejecting fear and getting on with living their lives.
Not just in the states but here in Ireland and rest of the EU as well.
Covid19 will not be the election issue, it will be the Dems endorsing BLM/ANTIFA and letting Dem run cities burn .
People are getting a preview of a Dem run country and will reject it big time and vote Trump.
Trump is now the law and order candidate, he will be put in the white house for a second term by the events unfolding in Dem run cities.

Leroy42

da_miser wrote: »

Dem run cities are crime ridden hellholes, Chicago is on the path to ruin, NYC under the Dems is well on the way back to the 70's with crime rising daily, then we have San Francisco, its possibly a lost cause, shop lifting is now legal, people are fleeing in droves.
One thing in common with these Dem run cities is that high earners who pay most of the tax are leaving, these Dems cities are only going to get worse as the tax money drys up.
Chicago then has to go up a gear, gangs now looking to shoot Police, thats going to go down really well with regular folk , law and order going to break down, all under the Dems watch, Trump has to just sit back, call out the Dems, get them to ask for Federal help, the Dems wont, the population can see this and they will vote for Trump in huge numbers.
Trump has been gifted the position of the law and order candidate by the incompetent Dems, hard working tax paying lifelong true Blue Dems will swallow their pride and out of self interest vote Trump come November, the alternative is Biden giving his blessing to Dem runs cities to continue down the path to rack and ruin.
Biden is 10/11 and Trump is Evens, the odds are dropping, follow the money, Trump is playing a blinder by giving the Dems enough rope to hang themselves.
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-department-gangs-fbi-shootings/6397730/

Didn't Trump promise to end the carnage? And return the cities to glory?

Your points only prove that Trump is not the man to fix the problems. He has had four years and yet even he claims that things are getting worse.

ohnonotgmail

realising that his time as president is coming to an end trump decides to start auditioning for a new career on Broadway

ohnonotgmail

namloc1980

da_miser wrote: »

Biden is 10/11 and Trump is Evens, the odds are dropping, follow the money,

You'd think a Trump supporter wouldn't get sucked in by the bookies after 2016. Comical.