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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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dwayneshintzy

Deleted User wrote: »

Hey LessOutrage, any reason why you're not addressing the fact you're actively trying to lie about coronavirus deaths? Your browsing of far right websites and dropping the websites they're sharing also makes for a pretty pointless person to debate with.

"Unbiased" observer of Trump an Biden who someone solely speaks in right-wing memes and talking points

dwayneshintzy

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

You can easily see why Trump is seeking education reform when you have crazy professor's like this teaching in public universities that are funded by the tax payer saying that speech is violent and creating a victim culture.

If you don't see any problem with this then you're part of the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaERkte8ylA

Brilliant straw man you've built there.

You don't think there's anything wrong with changing the curriculum of a nation's educational system to focus on patriotism and national exceptionalism? Why is it OK for Trump to do it, but not the CCP in Hong Kong?

[Deleted User]

Hey LessOutrage, any reason why you're not addressing the fact you're actively trying to lie about coronavirus deaths? Your browsing of far right websites and dropping the websites they're sharing also makes for a pretty pointless person to debate with.

threeball

namloc1980 wrote: »

Trumps gaslighting is working clearly. The nearly 200k dead from Covid is not the #1 problem. Unreal.

The American public in general don't have the attention span to focus on one issue for too long. They're always moving on to the next thing, something to grab their attention, its like flicking through youtube. Trump just sits nicely in this frame as he never stays on any substantive issue, he just jumps from one crisis to the next, but hes moved on before it even fleshed out so he avoids any intense scrutiny. Its just an entertaining soap opera for most of them.

LessOutragePlz

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Also, this is absolutely disgusting stuff from Trump; Trump demands 'patriotic education' in U.S. schools

You can easily see why Trump is seeking education reform when you have crazy professor's like this teaching in public universities that are funded by the tax payer saying that speech is violent and creating a victim culture.

If you don't see any problem with this then you're part of the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaERkte8ylA

dwayneshintzy

Also, this is absolutely disgusting stuff from Trump; Trump demands 'patriotic education' in U.S. schools

That, coupled with this;

https://twitter.com/emilyrauhala/status/1300512694634713089

There's not really a massive difference between Trump and the CCP in many ways. Trump and Conservatives will talk big words about supporting HK protestors, and speak out against China cracking down on them. They'll say they oppose the new National Security Law and the indoctrination of Hong Kong children.......but they're hypocrites. They don't support the principle behind either, the only purpose is to try and give China a bloody nose.

dwayneshintzy

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1300692837730672640

Some more eloquence from Mr. Trump

salmocab

namloc1980 wrote: »

Trumps gaslighting is working clearly. The nearly 200k dead from Covid is not the #1 problem. Unreal.

Well they were going to die at some stage so that doesn’t count.

namloc1980

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Americas no1 problem right now is far left violence, here trump brings up the man who was executed by the far left that thugs that then cheered after shooting the innocent guy in the face. You guys who support this are on the wrong side of history.

Trumps gaslighting is working clearly. The nearly 200k dead from Covid is not the #1 problem. Unreal.

Leroy42

Cody montana wrote: »

Trump: You know a choker they choke. Shooting a guy in the back many times couldn’t you have done something different... in the meantime he might have been going for a weapon... but they choke just like in a golf tournament they miss a 3 foot putt.

He’s not well.

For once he is right. Despite all the attempts to defend the police on this thread and elsewhere, clearly the police lost control of the situation and panicked.

You can be certain that the supporters will change tack now. No longer trying to defend the officer, now it will probably be that this is a once off, lone officer that choked.

Cody montana

Trump: You know a choker they choke. Shooting a guy in the back many times couldn’t you have done something different... in the meantime he might have been going for a weapon... but they choke just like in a golf tournament they miss a 3 foot putt.

He’s not well.

Leroy42

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Americas no1 problem right now is far left violence, here trump brings up the man who was executed by the far left that thugs that then cheered after shooting the innocent guy in the face. You guys who support this are on the wrong side of history.

Is it? The No 1 problem?

Not Covid! The economy? Far right terrorism? Gun control?

But let's go with your premise for a second. Who has been in charge the last 4 years and let this far left violence become such an issue?

It wasn't as bad under Obama.

Overheal

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Americas no1 problem right now is far left violence, here trump brings up the man who was executed by the far left that thugs that then cheered after shooting the innocent guy in the face. You guys who support this are on the wrong side of history.[/YOUTUBE]

You're right, I absolutely don't support the president taking sides prejudicially. It only divides the country farther. America's number one problem is Trump's toxic 'leadership.'

Chris_Heilong

Americas no1 problem right now is far left violence, here trump brings up the man who was executed by the far left that thugs that then cheered after shooting the innocent guy in the face. You guys who support this are on the wrong side of history.

Tell me how

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He defended their use as a "defensive mechanism" - maybe listen to him. I didn't hear him support attacking anyone.

You might want to give this a watch.

https://twitter.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1299791400184295424

Outlaw Pete

He defended their use as a "defensive mechanism" - maybe listen to him. I didn't hear him support attacking anyone.

namloc1980

So Trump just defended the "Great Patriots" who sprayed mace and shot at people with paint guns in Portland saying they are peaceful.

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A few months ago he called for 10 years in prison for protesters who threw paint at a statue.

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relax carry on

namloc1980 wrote: »

You know why it's being repeated. Dedicated Trumpists don't care about the truth, they don't care that they are repeating the same debunked lies, they don't care about misrepresenting what the CDC actually said. It's a cult. The Leader must not be questioned.

"The Leader is good. The Leader is great. We surrender our will as of this date!"

Carfacemandog

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

According to the CDC 94% of the people that are listed as dying from covid 19 had underlying health conditions. So that has reduced the covid 19 death toll by 94% as those people didn't die directly as a result of covid they died with it, along with other serious illnesseses that contributed to their death.

FFS, you were literally corrected on this less than 12 hours ago in this very thread.

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Covid is listed as the underlying cause of death ('dying from covid) 'in 95% of Covid deaths in the US, only in 5% is it listed as a contributing cause ('dying with covid').

For the majority of deaths where COVID-19 is reported on the death certificate (approximately 95%), COVID-19 is selected as the underlying cause of death.

The source is the same CDC that you cited in your initial post: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

namloc1980

extra gravy wrote: »

Why are you repeating this stupidity when it was addressed and debunked earlier? Just because you want to believe it doesn't make it true.

You know why it's being repeated. Dedicated Trumpists don't care about the truth, they don't care that they are repeating the same debunked lies, they don't care about misrepresenting what the CDC actually said. It's a cult. The Leader must not be questioned.

ollkiller

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

According to the CDC 94% of the people that are listed as dying from covid 19 had underlying health conditions. So that has reduced the covid 19 death toll by 94% as those people didn't die directly as a result of covid they died with it, along with other serious illnesseses that contributed to their death.

And if they didn't contract Covid they would be alive. As opposed to dead. From the outset it was reported people with underlying conditions were most at risk. Did you not get the memo.

extra gravy

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

According to the CDC 94% of the people that are listed as dying from covid 19 had underlying health conditions. So that has reduced the covid 19 death toll by 94% as those people didn't die directly as a result of covid they died with it, along with other serious illnesseses that contributed to their death.

Why are you repeating this stupidity when it was addressed and debunked earlier? Just because you want to believe it doesn't make it true.

namloc1980

Trumps favourite pollster still showing no bump for Trump after the RNC or the weekend.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

Leroy42

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

He's offered federal help to many democratic mayor's but they've turned it down Ted Wheeler being a prime example.

It's like a fire engine arriving to a burning building and the people that are in charge of it saying: nah we don't want your help we'd rather let it burn.

Its more like an arsonist turning up saying a bigger fire will sort the smaller fire out

LessOutragePlz

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So he won't do anything now? Why wait till then?

The mental gymnastics get more elaborate every day :pac:

Some cities are refusing help such as Ted Wheeler in Portland not much else he can do there to sort it out.

Timberrrrrrrr

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Do you really believe that? If you do then it's easy to see why people are going to vote for Trump because they're sick to death of all the negativity, doom and gloom that is pushed by the Dems.

They see America burning and it's not because of Trump so they'll vote for him knowing that he'll sort out the mess once he gets re-elected.

So he won't do anything now? Why wait till then?

The mental gymnastics get more elaborate every day :pac:

MisterAnarchy

Very little in the odds now, alot of bookmakers have both Biden and Trump at 10/11.
Trump has closed the gap.

BLM and Antifa are giving Trump a huge boost .

namloc1980

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

He's offered federal help to many democratic mayor's but they've turned it down Ted Wheeler being a prime example.

It's like a fire engine arriving to a burning building and the people that are in charge of it saying: nah we don't want your help we'd rather let it burn.

So how will it change should be get re-elected?

LessOutragePlz

namloc1980 wrote: »

He's the President now. Why isn't he sorting it out? Trump fans are almost pretending that someone else is the President at this stage.

He's offered federal help to many democratic mayor's but they've turned it down Ted Wheeler being a prime example.

It's like a fire engine arriving to a burning building and the people that are in charge of it saying: nah we don't want your help we'd rather let it burn.

[Deleted User]

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

According to the CDC 94% of the people that are listed as dying from covid 19 had underlying health conditions. So that has reduced the covid 19 death toll by 94% as those people didn't die directly as a result of covid they died with it, along with other serious illnesseses that contributed to their death.

That's been addressed multiple times so stop pretending they're not dead as a result of covid. Excess deaths are over two hundred thousand.