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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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Outlaw Pete

extra gravy wrote: »

I assume you have proof of all these lies? Though I don't know why I'm asking, you refuse to answer any questions re: your posts or qualify your assertions with real evidence.

I've already posted the news reports from the time on his lies.

Even the liberals have called him out on it for heaven sake:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/biden-lying-busing-record.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNDnq9Zdd8

Timberrrrrrrr

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

This.

Biden talking to CNN or Trump talking to Fox is worthless. At least Trump though fields questions from CNN and other MSM journalists at pressers.

And storms out in a hissy fit when he gets asked questions he doesnt like.

Gerry Hatrick

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And storms out in a hissy fit when he gets asked questions he doesnt like.

True.

At least he does them.

Biden is going to have face questions at some stage and i mean not from CNN

Quin_Dub

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I've already posted the news reports from the time on his lies.

Even the liberals have called him out on it for heaven sake:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/biden-lying-busing-record.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNDnq9Zdd8

Having one potential truth among a forest of lies doesn't mean that the lies get a pass.

When you post you can't play the "Two Lies and a truth" game, that's only supposed to be about you.

mcmoustache

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I've already posted the news reports from the time on his lies.

Even the liberals have called him out on it for heaven sake:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/biden-lying-busing-record.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNDnq9Zdd8

Your argument boils down to "This guy is one percent as bad as the other guy so the other guy is better".

At best, you're trying to say, "This guy told a few lies during his political career and that makes him just as bad as that guy who repeatedly tells loads of lies on a daily basis".

You don't give a shíte about honesty or truth. You're not fooling anyone.

jamule

So Sleepy joe needs a drug test now to prove he hasn't been taken drugs because he has been able to speak coherent sentences

CassieManson

duploelabs wrote: »

The What click??? You do realise that Pelosi isn't jewish right?

Jaw click I presume?

Ande1975

jamule wrote: »

So Sleepy joe needs a drug test now to prove he hasn't been taken drugs because he has been able to speak coherent sentences

Childish childish response...
You are probably sitting back with a smile munching on pop corn.
Joe Biden overcame a stutter.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

What's Trump's excuse!

Biker79

You can't trust a man who has sat on his a**e for his whole life, getting by on little more than a goofy grin* and an incongruent pair of sunglasses.

(*..although these days goofy would be on a good day)

You can trust someone who has been exposed to the harsh realities of life and has come out trumps the other end.

They tend to know what they're talking about. As opposed to absorbing views from advisers and reading from cue sheets. Earning values rather than signalling about them through the media.

[Deleted User]

Biker79 wrote: »

You can't trust a man who has sat on his a**e for his whole life, getting by on little more than a goofy grin* and an incongruent pair of sunglasses.

(*..although these days goofy would be on a good day)

You can trust someone who has been exposed to the harsh realities of life and has come out trumps the other end.

They tend to know what they're talking about. As apposed to absorbing views from advisers and reading from queue sheets. Earning values rather than signalling about them on the media.

Quality trolling.

Faugheen

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

True.

At least he does them.

Just like Biden did for 8 years.

namloc1980

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

This.

Biden talking to CNN or Trump talking to Fox is worthless. At least Trump though fields questions from CNN and other MSM journalists at pressers.

He might "field" questions but he rarely if ever actually answers the question he is actually asked. He just goes off on rants and tangents unrelated to the questions asked.

ohnonotgmail

Biker79 wrote: »

You can't trust a man who has sat on his a**e for his whole life, getting by on little more than a goofy grin* and an incongruent pair of sunglasses.

(*..although these days goofy would be on a good day)

You can trust someone who has been exposed to the harsh realities of life and has come out trumps the other end.

They tend to know what they're talking about. As opposed to absorbing views from advisers and reading from cue sheets. Earning values rather than signalling about them through the media.

have you actually listened to trump speak? incoherent and easily distracted doesn't quite cover it.

Richard Hillman

I think the tactic for Biden is to keep him away from any questioning for as long as possible. I doubt they will do 3 debates. They'll probably agree to one, very late on when minds are already made up.

namloc1980

Biker79 wrote: »

You can't trust a man who has sat on his a**e for his whole life, getting by on little more than a goofy grin* and an incongruent pair of sunglasses.

(*..although these days goofy would be on a good day)

You can trust someone who has been exposed to the harsh realities of life and has come out trumps the other end.

They tend to know what they're talking about. As opposed to absorbing views from advisers and reading from cue sheets. Earning values rather than signalling about them through the media.

Who are you actually taking about here?

Tokyo

Mod: 1800_Ladladlad - don't post in the thread again.

ohnonotgmail

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think the tactic for Biden is to keep him away from any questioning for as long as possible. I doubt they will do 3 debates. They'll probably agree to one, very late on when minds are already made up.

yeah people like you keep saying that and there is still no sign of the debates not happening.

Timberrrrrrrr

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think the tactic for Biden is to keep him away from any questioning for as long as possible. I doubt they will do 3 debates. They'll probably agree to one, very late on when minds are already made up.

They have already agreed to the three debates, why would they "keep him away"?

Faugheen

People running scared of Biden because in the two previous occasions he was on the Democrat ticket, he walloped his Republican counterpart.

Saying the Democrats don’t want to debate is a red herring from the reality that they’ll happen and Biden will harass, interrupt, jump on and fact check Trump with incredible ease.

Professor Moriarty

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think the tactic for Biden is to keep him away from any questioning for as long as possible. I doubt they will do 3 debates. They'll probably agree to one, very late on when minds are already made up.

If that sinks Trump, great.

extra gravy

Biker79 wrote: »

You can trust someone who has been exposed to the harsh realities of life and has come out trumps the other end.

You should trust Biden then if that's the case. He suffered an unspeakable personal tragedy but didn't let it define him or turn him into a bitter man. What harsh realities has Trump suffered? Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and bailed out any time he got himself into trouble. They are worlds apart, both in character and experience.

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Oh-oh..

2nd Day of the convention , 2nd day of declining support with the only pollster that ever shows positive numbers for him.

Surely it's a "Collapse" now??

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Doesn't look like he's getting that boost so far.

Day 3 and once again his favourite pollster shows a decline..

Convention not going well in the polling so far..

Manic Moran

Overheal wrote: »

Looking at the population of both, I don't see anywhere in the last 20 years where there is any decline in population, there is only population growth. So what are you talking about?

It seems that SF has become a stop-off point for immigrants which contributes to this.

Net population of Americans has dropped, as more domestic Americans are leaving the Bay Area than entering. It seems that the population figure is artificially inflated by stop-overs.

https://www.sfgate.com/expensive-san-francisco/article/bay-area-exodus-fleeing-moving-cost-census-13778557.php

The net domestic immigration number (-2,976) tell another story. The negative sign signifies that more American nationals left San Francisco County than moved there over the past eight years.

This trend followed in most Bay Area counties (Sonoma County being the exception, largely due to the 2018 wildfires that devastated much of the area). Santa Clara and San Mateo counties grew by 46,048 and 16,727 people respectively, but they had negative net migration totals for domestic residents, at -99,374 and -20,966.

The discrepancy between international and domestic migration in the Bay Area can likely be explained by what economists call "gateway cities." These cities, often planted along the coast, serve as entry points for foreigners moving to the U.S. The immigrants will register in the gateway city, but often move to other parts of California or the country within months, according to Phuong Nguyen, a research specialist at the California Department of Finance.

It's worth observing given recent events that though the SF Bay Area is still a beacon of hope for folks looking to make it rich in the tech industry (and forced into pretty damned cramped and expensive quarters in the meantime), for being the hub of the world's technology it's telling that they can't figure out how to keep the lights on. Press conference on Aug 17th, Governor Newsom said that the power crunch was related to the fact that the sun goes down in the evening so solar doesn't work, and it hasn't been windy. Not sure how folks didn't see this coming. Or, more to the point, that they did see it coming, and CA did nothing about it. CA is absolutely terrible at infrastructure maintenance. The solution to a drought is "take shorter showers". The solution to a failing dam is to ignore it until the drought is over. and it partially fails. The solution to a power cut is to "not use power in the evenings". The solution to wildfires is to wait until the place catches fire naturally, then spend stupid amounts of money trying to put them out.

California is a house of cards. I do miss the weather and the scenery, I don't miss the mismanagement and quality of life.

No that's not why people are leaving. They're leaving because they can't afford to live there.

We could afford to live there. Had a nice little house out in Dublin, complete with pool in a quiet cul-de-sac. We were fed up with the way we were living, mainly related to the state's infrastructure. If you were taking BART from Dublin to San Francisco every morning as my wife did, or driving to Oakland as I did, you'd get pretty damned tired of it pretty quickly. Before the wife moved in with me, she had an apartment in downtown SF, walking distance to her office in the Financial District. Of course, she did have to walk around the junkies at the entrance to her apartment building. That's before the amount of money that we were paying for the privilege. It just made a lot of sense for us to move, and I don't regret it one iota. We are now much less stressed.

Igotadose

What I find most amusing in this article about the #IMPOTUS administration ignoring domestic terrorism, is they appear to be under a mandate to not utter the phrase 'domestic terrorism.' The US has a 'violence problem.' Hmm...remember the 'radical Islamic Terrorism' stuff Fauxnews was banging on about a few years ago? So, will this administration and the #IMPOTUS use the phrase 'domestic terrorist' to characterize the Trump supporter who murdered those protestors in Kenosha?

politico.com/news/2020/08/26/trump-domestic-extemism-homeland-security-401926

Gerry Hatrick

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If that sinks Trump, great.

It won't though. People will wise up to Biden hiding and not debating. That's unfortunately a problem for the democrats.

[Deleted User]

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

It won't though. People will wise up to Biden hiding and not debating. That's unfortunately a problem for the democrats.

There's no indication he's hiding... And everything he's said to date makes far more sense than Trump's statements.

Timberrrrrrrr

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

It won't though. People will wise up to Biden hiding and not debating. That's unfortunately a problem for the democrats.

He is out and about and committed to three debates, do you realise how idiotic your posts look when you continue to post this lie?

Gerry Hatrick

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

He is out and about and committed to three debates, do you realise how idiotic your posts look when you continue to post this lie?

It's not a lie. He's doing interviews with nobody of note.

Gerry Hatrick

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no indication he's hiding... And everything he's said to date makes far more sense than Trump's statements.

Of course it does. Eh im not arguing for Trump here. I want Biden to come out in front of the orange loon but im fearful if he doesn't get out there and grow some balls he won't

Timberrrrrrrr

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

It's not a lie. He's doing interviews with nobody of note.

Who's Trump doing interviews with?

Any evidence that Biden won't do the debates that he as said he will do?