ExMachina1000 wrote: » Phil Hogan isnt going anywhere.
Muahahaha wrote: » Not looking good for Hogan now, a FG source is saying he is set to resign tonighthttps://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1298683400690311171
ExMachina1000 wrote: » He spoke a lot of sense if what he said is true about citizens information website. He didn't do anything wrong in that case His whole story sounds completely believable to be honest. He also has a very unique role in Europe. Watch the interview
Zebra3 wrote: » He wasn't just an opposition TD, he was an opposition TD who was a spokesperson with a portolio. And as an elected member of Dáil Éireann he had an obligation to speak out on any dodgy dealings within the state. But he kept his mouth shut because he was part of the Golden Circle. To hell with the people who elected him and paid his wages and pension.
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » Martin and Varadkar have nt told the Commission what to do. They expressed their dissatisfaction at the whole situation and made it clear that the decision was for Boss Lady and Boss Lady alone. There was also no interference to save him. Hogan is an embarrassment to the Irish goverment and the EU Commission.
Mr Martin said Mr Hogan’s “changing narrative” was a “significant difficulty” for the Government but declined to explicitly state it had lost confidence in the Commissioner or that he should resign. Mr Martin was speaking amid doubts over Mr Hogan’s future as EU Trade Commissioner over his attendance at an Oireachtas Golf Society and movements around Ireland in the days leading up to that event.“We’ve made very clear our anger and annoyance,” he said. “We’ve made that very clear.”
jm08 wrote: » Fianna Fail were in power when all of this was happening. Hogan was just an opposition TD, so wouldn't have been regarded as a top politician.
jm08 wrote: » Lucinda Creighton thinks he will be staying as the Commission as it cannot be told what to do by any country. I wonder if MM & Leo actually did interfere to save Hogan, because that is what it seems likely will happen. I'd be pretty sure that Leo would know how the Commission is meant to operate.
The Belly wrote: It not what he said it was the way he put it.
is_that_so wrote: » I would hold it against anyone being wrong here. It could go either way. There's a lot we don't know, like the inside of Ursula's head!
Coillte_Bhoy wrote: » Ive no dog in your fight but he explained it perfectly well
The Belly wrote: » :rolleyes:
mick087 wrote: » You have still not told me why an elite few should be slected rather than elected by its citizens.
First Up wrote: » I did precisely that in my last post. If you still don't understand it, I won't waste any more time trying to enlighten you
mick087 wrote: You have still not told me why an eleite few should be slected rather than elected by its citizens. I have explained 2 possible ways but you have no argument why EU Citizens should have the power to elect and remove the Commissioners.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I'll remember to repost this quote, should you be wrong which I suspect maybe the case.
First Up wrote: » And if you thought about it at all you would understand why. Commissioners are responsible for their portfolio across all member states, not just their own. If they are beholden to the electorate in only one country, they would be under pressure to - or open to being accused of - showing favour to that country. That could create friction between large and small member states that would undermine the whole EU concept. But you have already shown an absence of understanding of the EU concept so no surprise there.
Zebra3 wrote: » And the problem was that top politicians were benefiting from this so allowed a financial disaster to happen because they were bought off by the personal benefits they received. That's a form of corruption.