caveat emptor wrote: » So if a politician murders someone it's grand because he didn't draft the regulation? That's the bar now?
jm08 wrote: » If they murdered someone they would not be tried and convicted by public opinion. They would get a day in court.
mick087 wrote: » Well apart from The unelected commissioners id look at Judges Garda Commissioners. That is sheer arrogance "examples of the general population not knowing what's best. (Brexit, Trump, Bolsanaro etc) Some things need to be insulated from the fickleness of public opinion and misinformation" Im not happy with these people myself but they was elected by its own citizens. If the people are not happy they can vote them out. You might not like these people i might not like them but it was the citizens choice. The citizens gave them power the citizens can take that power away.
ShamNNspace wrote: » Well for a start she was one of the primary movers in the annihilation and bombing of a country allmost back into the stone age, its now a haven for training terrorists, full of bandits and people smuggling gangs, she by her and her allies actions are responsible for the reintroduction of slavery to that country in the 21st century, a matter of kilometres from the EUs border.Im no Trump fan but for heavens sake she gets far too easy a ride in this country. Any critical look at her career would reveal much
Jizique wrote: » I don't remember saying that you were - i was pointing out that there is a fair crossover between the euroscepticism of the Brexiters and that of SF, who let's remember, have opposed every referendum on EU matters since we joined. Obviously, Gemma and the Irish Freedom Party would also hold similar views.
ShamNNspace wrote: » Can you be sure that the instinct of the majority of British people to vote to leave the EU may not prove the right one in the long run? Are you really sure the international stage especially the middle east or the US domestic stage for that matter would be in a more peaceful or better state had that vile woman beaten Trump 4 years ago? You can't know and frankly I find posts like this more than a little patronising
mick087 wrote: » No you didn't but you left a remake to imply i did. That is know as a deflection Im not a brexiteer or irexiter im not in SF and they would not get my vote. I would not surport Irish Freedom Party.
tigger123 wrote: » Phil Hogan could be in court yet; An Garda Siochana haven't completed their investigation.
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My message to Ambassador Lightizer is that we can reduce tariffs on pharmaceutical and medical, we can frame standards on technology and we can work together on WTO. As soon as the US and EU came together, China did a 180-degree spin. We are losing a lot by not working together. Look at the EU-Mercosur 2019 deal. It is the largest geopolitical agreement ever made. It’s another example of where we hear from the losers, not the winners. €5 billion of trade subsidies are being eliminated are well as the elimination of barriers to trade. The agreement ensures that countries like Brazil have signed-up to the Paris Climate Agreement. In addition to Mercosur, we are also upgrading existing agreements with Chile, Colombia, Ecuador and Mexico.
First Up wrote: » The EU is a complex institution - it has to be. Its a pity you can't understand it but that's not a reason to change it.
jm08 wrote: » From what I understand, all the US's NATO colleagues were screaming for the US to intervene because Gadaffi was slaughtering his own citizens. It was also UN Security backed and NATO also got involved. I don't know why you are singling her out for causing the problem for Europe when countries like France and the UK were pressing her to intervene.
caveat emptor wrote: » He clearly has a very powerful job and probably a lot of enemies. He acted like an entitled gob****e and that doesn't sit well with people. I don't like him over the water ****e (don't think many do). If he is doing good for Europe and for Ireland by extension then that's good. He come's across like an arse hole but if he really is doing good. (would love to see where he is directly helping EU citizen interests) Looks like someone wanted rid of him for what reason I honestly just don't know. Given trade tensions with US and UK it's not surprising now everyone knows what he had for breakfast and at what time. The Taoiseach and Tanaiste kinda hanged him, that in of itself is strange. Jury is still out in my mind.
mick087 wrote: » But i do understand it and no its not complex one bit. Its the unaccountable unelected selected elite who believe they know whats best for its citizens. Change make them accountable to its citizens.
caveat emptor wrote: » He clearly has a very powerful job and probably a lot of enemies. He acted like an entitled gob****e and that doesn't sit well with people. I don't like him over the water ****e (don't think many do). If he is doing good for Europe and for Ireland by extension then that's good. He come's across like an arse hole but if he really is doing good. (would love to see where he is directly helping EU citizen interests) Looks like someone wanted rid of him for what reason I honestly just don't know. Given trade tensions with US and UK it's not surprising now everyone knows what he had for breakfast and at what time. The Taoiseach and Tanaiste kinda hanged him, that in of itself is strange. Jury is still out in my mind. He was talking about removing Pharma tariffs for US companies importing to EU. That would mean a lot of US Pharma companies could move production back to US. There's one reason we might want him gone.https://ec.europa.eu/commission/commissioners/2019-2024/hogan/announcements/extracts-commissioner-phil-hogans-remarks-european-american-chamber-commerce-event-transatlantic_en
jm08 wrote: » But there are checks and balances (EU Council of Ministers and the European Parliament who have to approve the workplan and Commissioners).
caveat emptor wrote: » You would say it's entirely different. Let's see what's similar.They both broke covid restrictions. They both scrambled for loopholes in the restrictions. They both issued public apologies They both subsequently got caught in their lies. The both embarrassed their government They are both crucial in drafting legislation (EU for Phil, UK for DC) They both gave people an excuse to flout the regulations. They both put weight behind the mantra of one rule for us, one for you.
Hawthorn Tree wrote: » How did Hogan afford an apartment in the K Club? They cost 420,000 Euros.
ShamNNspace wrote: » I am not singling her out but the records show she actively supported the Libyan intervention, convincing Obama to support the rebels with a no - fly zone. There were 2 chances of a ceasefire which were shot down by Clinton while she met the leaders of the Lybian muslim brotherhood in Paris and continued to support arms shipments to the rebels.the fruits of the mayhem she and her cohorts have brought to the middle east are still in evidence today, not forgetting the part she played in the murder of an American ambassador. I can not not believe any of those particapants in the fracturing of Lybia had the best interests of the Lybian people at heart, follow the money as they say. I spent time working and living in that country and mark my words it saddens me to see what that country (not perfect by any means in Quadaffis time) has been reduced to and that lady has played a large part in its destruction. I'll say no more on the subject as this thread is supposed to be about Hogan and his shenanagins and buffoonery
Allinall wrote: » I heard he got it off the council, and only pays €30 a week in rent.
mick087 wrote: But i do understand it and no its not complex one bit. Its the unaccountable unelected selected elite who believe they know whats best for its citizens. Change make them accountable to its citizens.
