RandomViewer wrote: » What part of IMPARTIAL are you struggling with, if Woulfe is down the FG Cumann with the trouserlegs rolled up at night and then making judicial decisions during the day there isn't impartiality
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » You criticised s1ippy for calling someone a prick just because they have a different opinion. You said you "For this alone I hope Hogan survives in his role" You hope Hogan maintains his position regardless of any wrongdoing just just because you diagree with calling a person a prick. You are doing the same thing you say s1ippy did.
fly_agaric wrote: » You would characterise it like that of course. The EU institutions have generally had higher "morals" than our own political representatives over the years from what I've seen and have helped improved standards of governance here. e.g. I posted early on thread of Charlie McCreevy having to be told by the EU that taking up a director role after his period as Commissioner would cause conflict of interest. The way that politicians in this country have operated in the past + the way citizens here seem to generally be "okay" with that sort of thing (so long as he's "pulling" for us") probably meant he saw no problem at all with it.
The_Brood wrote: » God-King Emperor Hogan can not resign, his ascension to power was prophesied as far back as the Mayans, who are we to stand in the way of holy divinity?
Jizique wrote: » Nigel Farage agrees with you
elperello wrote: » I'm not struggling at all. Of course a sitting judge would not be an active party member. That's not in question.
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » Lads, can we talk about the but where Hogan says the Guards wouldn't;t have stopped him if they knew who he was? How has this not cause the country to implode?
Piehead wrote: » Looks like it’s BIG PHIL 1 CURTAIN TWITCHERS 0
mick087 wrote: » There would be a case for many of the political institutions for its citizens vote yes. You would have a point about many would not know the workings of the commission. This does need to change. Im sure if more people knew the power that such an important unelected by its citizens organization had then more people would want to know why. Yes it might not be easy for citizens a informed vote but then again maybe it would be easy maybe the citizens actually know whats best instead of a selcted few.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Sure its Ireland, its how things are done.
mick087 wrote: » That,s about the4th time that deflection has popped up. I'm no surporter of the former democratically elected MEP Mr Farage.
caveat emptor wrote: » So because politicians were bad in the past here they should be allowed to flout Irish Law and act with impunity because the EU is good? It's not a great argument. If they are so moral then they should have no issue holding him to account. It shouldn't take him getting caught in several lies for this to be the case BTW. Fair play to MM and Leo for having the balls to call him on his bullsh!t. They understand that people have had it with this crap.
fly_agaric wrote: » Sigh...It is not a great argument but I did not make it. Unfortunately (yet another can of worms) most of our Covid-19 response is based on "recommendations" and "advice" rather than set regulations and the Gards enforcing public health laws on people and businesses for their (our) own good whether they (or we) like it or not. He committed a road traffic offence while here afair but generally people don't get removed for this. I didn't think he should resign or be removed over what he did originally, but if he's been evasive about it afterwards that seems to be a wider issue of ethics.
smurgen wrote: » From the horse's mouth , this is unbelievable.https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1298537457621913600?s=19
ec18 wrote: » what about the cabinet of ministers in the irish government? Do you have a similar view on them? The advisers that work with them? what about the sec generals of the different govt departments? where does the voting for things stop ? I'm all for democracy but and one person one vote but there comes a point when it's counter productive and inefficient for everyone to vote on everything
Jizique wrote: » You sound like one and you agree with his criticism of the EU commission
gmisk wrote: » Rubbish....i don't think the final whistle has blown by any means.... In fact I think it's more likely he will go now, he has constantly been digging himself a bigger hole, if he does stay he has seriously damaged his reputation. Pretty much reviled in Ireland.
stockshares wrote: » Ursula has just said she will take into account other sources of info regarding Phil Hogan.
mick087 wrote: » Don't believe all you read about people who don't agree with the EU unelected EU commission as being right wing Nigel fans.
mick087 wrote: » I still dont believe she will sack him but im only 98% now when yesterday i was 99% sure she wouldn't. Apparently its not so easy (surprise surprise)
Happydays2020 wrote: » I think it is a high bar in terms of legislation and he would have the right to appeal it through the courts.
ec18 wrote: » You said some not all? what are the exceptions? The commissions workings and what they are looking at can be seen across the portfolios here - https://ec.europa.eu/info/index_en There are numerous examples of the general population not knowing what's best. (Brexit, Trump, Bolsanaro etc) Some things need to be insulated from the fickleness of public opinion and misinformation.
Hawthorn Tree wrote: » Did I hear Phil was in Roscommon too? Why did he stop there?
Muahahaha wrote: » He stopped in Roscommon so he could sell the litter of puppies that he stole in Kilkenny. It hasnt come out yet but Phil Hogan is actually one of Europes biggest dealers of stolen puppies and he uses his EU Commissioner job as cover for whats really going on.
