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PHIL HOGAN NEEDS TO RESIGN.

Mrcaramelchoc

I for one want him gone.

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quinnd6

What good has he done for Ireland since he became EU
commissioner?
I'm curious.
Can anyone come up with an example of how Phil Hogan
has actually helped Ireland?
Whenever I think of Phil Hogan I think of
him threatening to cut peoples water to a trickle
and then going off and getting a big job in the EU for
being a big bully boy.
So I'm interested to hear has he done Ireland an iota of
good since he became EU commissioner?

Psychiatric Patrick

golfball37 wrote: »

How is this still running? Just watched interview there and cannot believe people are taking what they want from it. He did not blame anybody except himself for attending the dinner and his own stupidity.
I was completely satisfied with his explanations and at this stage can the news cycle please move on to something worthy rather than petty political payback because Hogan was ignorant to a few people back in the day. We have serious issues to deal with and comeuppance should not be dominating the news cycle. If his employer has a problem with him she will deal with it.

As a taxpayer here who is no fan of his or FG I am shaking my head in disbelief that this is being pursued with such vigour. The longer this is about Phil Hogan the longer these sort of dinners and what sort of business being carried on at them is glossed over. Bigger fools the lot of us.

Well done commissioner I say, now please get back to work and do the state some service in your important role.

normanoffside will meet you and show you the way in.

Please don't make any noise and don't turn on any light as Sorolla is already up there and is fast asleep by now.

You will have to feel your way around in the dark... but sure isn't that half the fun for you all?

babi-hrse

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Brilliant i will be doing exactly that.

Thanking you have written an essay to the email address

normanoffside

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I can't say he wasn't, as you can't say he was. What I can say is his time in Clifden was not essential and that and his behaviour before hand and after is the issue.
Fair play for trying to defend him, but except for a few other posters here it doesn't wash.

I am sure Phil, coming from a normal country like Belgium has the common sense to realise these local lock downs are silly, as is the the assumption you must continue to restrict movements even when you have had a negative test 7 days after returning!!

I'm not surprised he is unfamiliar with Irish 'rules'. they are so random and nonsensical.

The government are using him as a smokescreen to defend their silly rules and the fact that members of their own parties and cabinets did the same thing.

Hogan is a seemingly convenient scapegoat to drag attention away from their own incompetence.

Scoondal

golfball37 wrote: »

How is this still running? Just watched interview there and cannot believe people are taking what they want from it. He did not blame anybody except himself for attending the dinner and his own stupidity.
I was completely satisfied with his explanations and at this stage can the news cycle please move on to something worthy rather than petty political payback because Hogan was ignorant to a few people back in the day. We have serious issues to deal with and comeuppance should not be dominating the news cycle. If his employer has a problem with him she will deal with it.

As a taxpayer here who is no fan of his or FG I am shaking my head in disbelief that this is being pursued with such vigour. The longer this is about Phil Hogan the longer these sort of dinners and what sort of business being carried on at them is glossed over. Bigger fools the lot of us.

Well done commissioner I say, now please get back to work and do the state some service in your important role.

Typical ignorance.
He was not appointed to "do the state some service". He was appointed to a non elected group of people to represent the EU. The EU commission is not elected. An Irishman's role on the EU commission is not to represent Ireland's interests. Your lack of knowledge is un-helpful in this debate.

Gods Gift

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Coronavirus, lockdown, a baying mob, cancel culture. This story is basically everything that happened in 2020 rolled into one dinner.

All we’re missing is the sex scandal.

stockshares

Judges current and Former
Supreme Court judge + former AG Seamus Woulfe,
Circuit Court judge Pat McCartan Retired

Commissioners and MEPs (current and former)
EU Commissioner Phil Hogan
Brian Hayes (Former MEP)

Ambassadors
Moroccan Ambassador(said to be Guest of Lorraine Higgins)

Ministers
Dara Calleary - Resigned from Ministry

TDs(current and former)
Independent TD Noel Grealish
Frank Fahey(Former)
Noel Dempsey(Former)
Gerry Brady(Former)
Áine Brady(Former) currently ThirdAge Ireland
Brian Hayes(Former) currently BPFI
Gerry Reynolds(Former)
Dr Michael Harty(Former) and Oireachtas Health
Paul Daly

Civil Servants/Oireachtais
John Flaherty Oireachtas Health+Safety - resigned
Cait Hayes(head of protocol for Oireachtas) sister of Brian Hayes

Senators(current+former)
Paul Daly,
Aidan Davitt,
Niall Blaney,
Paddy Burke,
John Cummins
Jerry Buttimer - Demoted
Donie Cassidy
Imelda Henry(Former)
Cait Keane(Former)
Lorraine Higgins(Former) Barrister and Digital Business Ireland(Lobbyist)
Cait Keane(Former)

Councillors
Paudge Connolly Monaghan(Former TD)
Martin Brett (Killkenny) - Resigned
Enda McGlion(Longford) - Resigned

Journalism
Sean O Rourke

Unknown
3 guests of Brian Hayes
Guests of Gerry +Áine Brady

Station House Hotel
John Sweeney

Gregor Samsa

Coronavirus, lockdown, a baying mob, cancel culture. This story is basically everything that happened in 2020 rolled into one dinner.

Psychiatric Patrick

jojofizzio wrote: »

It’ll give her the best laugh ever though:pac:

Not sure.

My sister is a bit of a pansy about scary movies and such and that Sorolla guy is very creepy. The reality bending stories from Hogan will be enough entertainment. No need to add the slimy sexual element to it.

gmisk

golfball37 wrote: »

How is this still running? Just watched interview there and cannot believe people are taking what they want from it. He did not blame anybody except himself for attending the dinner and his own stupidity.
I was completely satisfied with his explanations and at this stage can the news cycle please move on to something worthy rather than petty political payback because Hogan was ignorant to a few people back in the day. We have serious issues to deal with and comeuppance should not be dominating the news cycle. If his employer has a problem with him she will deal with it.

As a taxpayer here who is no fan of his or FG I am shaking my head in disbelief that this is being pursued with such vigour. The longer this is about Phil Hogan the longer these sort of dinners and what sort of business being carried on at them is glossed over. Bigger fools the lot of us.

Well done commissioner I say, now please get back to work and do the state some service in your important role.

Well done commissioner? What exactly has he done well in this sh#t show? He has inflated the issue that is clear by the amount of tweets etc he has had to put out, and the fact he has had to hand a report up to his boss in europe.

I agree there needs to be a closer look at the invite list and I think a lot are getting away with very little stick e.g councillor Paudge connolly who was in a non green list country 8 days before the event!

Plumbthedepths

normanoffside wrote: »

EU/American trade deals are important to Ireland as well!

You can't say he wasn't conducting essential work while he was in Ireland, the golf is just a side show.

I can't say he wasn't, as you can't say he was. What I can say is his time in Clifden was not essential and that his behaviour before hand and after is the issue.
Fair play for trying to defend him, but except for a few other posters here it doesn't wash.

gifted

golfball37 wrote: »

How is this still running? Just watched interview there and cannot believe people are taking what they want from it. He did not blame anybody except himself for attending the dinner and his own stupidity.
I was completely satisfied with his explanations and at this stage can the news cycle please move on to something worthy rather than petty political payback because Hogan was ignorant to a few people back in the day. We have serious issues to deal with and comeuppance should not be dominating the news cycle. If his employer has a problem with him she will deal with it.

As a taxpayer here who is no fan of his or FG I am shaking my head in disbelief that this is being pursued with such vigour. The longer this is about Phil Hogan the longer these sort of dinners and what sort of business being carried on at them is glossed over. Bigger fools the lot of us.

Well done commissioner I say, now please get back to work and do the state some service in your important role.

Ermmm....he blamed his medical doctors
He blamed the citizens info website
He blamed the Irish hotel federation

He even blamed the yanks for trade negotiations tat had to be done while he on a golfing jolly

gmisk

stockshares wrote: »

This is more or less the public life figures and business interests at the do. There were other people at it such as Spouses that I left out.

Let me know of any mistakes.

Judges
Supreme Court judge + former AG Seamus Woulfe,
Circuit Court judge Pat McCartan,

Commissioners and MEPs (current and former)
EU Commissioner Phil Hogan
Brian Hayes (Former MEP)

Ambassadors
Moroccan Ambassador(said to be Guest of Lorraine Higgins)

Ministers
Dara Calleary - Resigned from Ministry

TDs(current and former)
Independent TD Noel Grealish
Frank Fahey(Former)
Noel Dempsey(Former)
Gerry Brady(Former)
Áine Brady(Former) currently ThirdAge Ireland
Brian Hayes(Former) currently BPFI
Gerry Reynolds(Former)
Dr Michael Harty(Former) and Oireachtas Health
Paul Daly

Civil Servants/Oireachtais
John Flaherty Oireachtas Health+Safety - resigned
Cait Hayes(head of protocol for Oireachtas) sister of Brian Hayes

Senators(current+former)
Paul Daly,
Aidan Davitt,
Niall Blaney,
Paddy Burke,
John Cummins
Jerry Buttimer - Demoted
Donie Cassidy
Imelda Henry(Former)
Cait Keane(Former)
Lorraine Higgins(Former) Barrister and Digital Business Ireland(Lobbyist)
Cait Keane(Former)

Councillors
Paudge Connolly Monaghan(Former TD)
Martin Brett (Killkenny) - Resigned
Enda McGlion(Longford) - Resigned

Journalism
Sean O Rourke

Unknown
3 guests of Brian Hayes
Guests of Gerry +Áine Brady

Station House Hotel
John Sweeney

Pat mc cartan is retired seemingly before all this (someone cleared that up for me earlier)

golfball37

How is this still running? Just watched interview there and cannot believe people are taking what they want from it. He did not blame anybody except himself for attending the dinner and his own stupidity.
I was completely satisfied with his explanations and at this stage can the news cycle please move on to something worthy rather than petty political payback because Hogan was ignorant to a few people back in the day. We have serious issues to deal with and comeuppance should not be dominating the news cycle. If his employer has a problem with him she will deal with it.

As a taxpayer here who is no fan of his or FG I am shaking my head in disbelief that this is being pursued with such vigour. The longer this is about Phil Hogan the longer these sort of dinners and what sort of business being carried on at them is glossed over. Bigger fools the lot of us.

Well done commissioner I say, now please get back to work and do the state some service in your important role.

normanoffside

jojofizzio wrote: »

McConkey on Prime Time putting the boot into big Phil...

McConkey is a spoofer, changes his mind as often as his socks.

screamer

gmisk wrote: »

How long has he been tweeting and explaining? 5 days? He looks increasingly fecked

Well as I learned as a child from my mother, tell the truth, you’ll always be caught out on a lie.....

Psychiatric Patrick

tigger123 wrote: »

No, wait... what he ... said the first time, that's what ... he said, but he didn't... eh ... mean the ehm, wait hold on, I just to disable the comments here...

I'm very surprised that there has been no one coming forward with claims of sexual misconduct or the use of narcotics

This shower must really have had a LOT of corrupt deals to broker

normanoffside

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

EU Commissioner playing a game of golf is not essential. What part do you have trouble with?
Again the EU Commissioner role is to represent the EU and not one particular EU state. His loyalty is to the EU they even pinkie swear an oath to this effect.
Actually he claimed he was working on an EU/ American trade deal, you seem confused it's ok you have something in common with Phil

EU/American trade deals are important to Ireland as well!

You can't say he wasn't conducting essential work while he was in Ireland, the golf is just a side show.

gmisk

Gods Gift wrote: »

When your explaining, your losing Phil.

How long has he been tweeting and explaining? 5 days? He looks increasingly fecked

jojofizzio

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

Too much swearing in this thread. She doesn't like profanity

It’ll give her the best laugh ever though:pac:

UsBus

mick087 wrote: »

I doubt all 81 heads will roll but imagine the publics confidence in such a goverment if they did

100% This would be a golden chance for this government to turn things around. There would be huge public satisfaction in the knowledge that maybe the days of lawless arrogant politicians might be coming to an end.

I fear it's easier to chase after Hogan to appease the public mood, than to bring down the seanad or government numbers.

Gerry Hatrick

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

RTÉ player has stopped working for me for the last hour or two

What a shock that is. Pity the RTE player wasn't at the golf event, we could get rid of that also.

stockshares

This is more or less the public life figures and business interests at the do. There were other people at it such as Spouses that I left out.

Let me know of any mistakes.

Judges
Supreme Court judge + former AG Seamus Woulfe,
Circuit Court judge Pat McCartan,

Commissioners and MEPs (current and former)
EU Commissioner Phil Hogan
Brian Hayes (Former MEP)

Ambassadors
Moroccan Ambassador(said to be Guest of Lorraine Higgins)

Ministers
Dara Calleary - Resigned from Ministry

TDs(current and former)
Independent TD Noel Grealish
Frank Fahey(Former)
Noel Dempsey(Former)
Gerry Brady(Former)
Áine Brady(Former) currently ThirdAge Ireland
Brian Hayes(Former) currently BPFI
Gerry Reynolds(Former)
Dr Michael Harty(Former) and Oireachtas Health
Paul Daly

Civil Servants/Oireachtais
John Flaherty Oireachtas Health+Safety - resigned
Cait Hayes(head of protocol for Oireachtas) sister of Brian Hayes

Senators(current+former)
Paul Daly,
Aidan Davitt,
Niall Blaney,
Paddy Burke,
John Cummins
Jerry Buttimer - Demoted
Donie Cassidy
Imelda Henry(Former)
Cait Keane(Former)
Lorraine Higgins(Former) Barrister and Digital Business Ireland(Lobbyist)
Cait Keane(Former)

Councillors
Paudge Connolly Monaghan(Former TD)
Martin Brett (Killkenny) - Resigned
Enda McGlion(Longford) - Resigned

Journalism
Sean O Rourke

Unknown
3 guests of Brian Hayes
Guests of Gerry +Áine Brady

Station House Hotel
John Sweeney

jojofizzio

Surely someone has a sighting of him playing golf in Mount Juliet while he was “convalescing “ or “isolating “ (or whatever he wasn’t doing coz he didn’t have to) in Kilkenny (before the Limerick jaunt)

Gods Gift

When your explaining, your losing Phil.

gmisk

jojofizzio wrote: »

McConkey on Prime Time putting the boot into big Phil...

He was pretty spot on in fairness.
He said if phil hogan thinks he was following the guidelines he was wrong.

Funsterdelux

jojofizzio wrote: »

McConkey on Prime Time putting the boot into big Phil...

He could of cut his own hair like that months ago.

Psychiatric Patrick

jojofizzio wrote: »

This thread....and the other one...;)

Too much swearing in this thread. She doesn't like profanity

tigger123

normanoffside wrote: »

EU trade commissioner not essential? LOL
The whole Brexit trade negotiations depend on him, quite essential to Ireland and he was working while visiting home.

Brexit negotiations depend on the position he holds, not on him.

mick087

fly_agaric wrote: »

Yes am queasy about precedent it sets if he is removed on foot of Irish govt. almost demanding it [despite the disclaimer].

If he resigns, maybe it is less of a problem, but if he will not resign & Commission/Von Der Leyen cannot agree there is enough of an ethics issue to work to have him removed [seems a tough process and not done easily (edit: dug up a IT link but it is quite old so removed)]... what then?

Could be trouble ahead between Irish govt., and the EU?
Not great at all really.

When you deny your citizens the right to be part of a process in electing someone for such powerful important position then its only a matter of time before the trouble problems start from its citizens.