stockshares wrote: » One at a time. Susan Denham is to do a report on Wolfe and that should remove him and the other judge who attended. Once Hogan goes Grealish, Brady etc and the Councillors will have to resign also. Then it's Hayes and the Vultures. Once the digging starts here who knows what will turn up.
Scoondal wrote: » Why are MEPs silent on this issue. It runs to the heart of who REALLY governs the EU. MEPs are just wallpaper. The EU commission are unelected and unaccountable to EU citizens. It's time for change.
Phoebas wrote: » Is he next to go?
normanoffside wrote: » It kind of came up at the time (one rule for them another for the others) especially because I think it was the day the first green list was announced. People were saying 'why can't I get a test when I come back from abroad'. It was brushed off by MM saying he ahd essential work to do etc. Just saying MM might be better keeping it shut or else people will see him as being Hypocritical. Arguably Phil's job is more essential than Michael's
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: That is only one thing on a list
ForestFire wrote: » This really is nonsense... It also states, it includes (includes is the important bit).... - Irish citizens coming home So by your logic, any arrivals that are not Irish citizens do not need to isolate? Is that right?
Boulevardier wrote: » Can we really drive Phil Hogan out of a job because of an arcane difference between people resident here who test Covid negative and visitors who test Covid negative while they are here??
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » Two judges?
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » More essential to who?
First Up wrote: » The others mostly being party politics and begrudgery. Hogan will not be "driven out of his job". The president of the Commission will examine the facts, consider the options and decide what's in the best interests of the EU and fairness.
normanoffside wrote: » Is trade minister for 446m people not more important than Prime minister of 4.9m in the grand scheme of things?
Sorolla wrote: » Why should Uschi get rid of the best horse in the stable?
Scoondal wrote: Yes we can. This is now about the unelected European Commission.....
Scoondal wrote: » Yes we can. This is now about the unelected European Commission. Mr Hogan has not been sacked and public attention is now on the most powerful EU institution.. Therefore, questions should be asked about who elected the entire European Commission. The longer Mr Hogan stays in his position, the more questions will be asked about this powerful institution in the EU. The EU parliament is sub serviant to the wishes of the EU "Commission". EU citizens have no democratic mandate in the EU. This Hogan issue has simply highlighted the total lack of answerability to EU citizens.
normanoffside wrote: » I think Big Phil is too good for us actually. Much better than that incompetent fool MM and his cronies.
screamer wrote: » It all comes down to trust and integrity. The numbers they represent do not matter HOW they represent them does......
stockshares wrote: » Seamus Woulfe(Supreme Court) and Pat McCartan (Circuit Court).https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40035893.html
Sorolla wrote: » We have an elected government. This elected government has executive power to act in the name of the subjects of Éire This elected government nominates a candidate for the position of EU commissioner. This candidate has then to be ratified by the EU parliament - the members of the EU parliament are elected representatives elected by the electorate This is an example of democracy at its finest
normanoffside wrote: » But MM did the same thing and everyone said it was grand. A man like Hogan should be prioritised for testing like the Taoiseach to allow him not to have to restrict his movements given his job.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Presume the other one is Pat McArtan, who is a retired judge, so I'm not sure what can be done about him.
jammiedodgers wrote: » What is the democratic process of removing him from the position?
Podge_irl wrote: » No - Irish citizens returning home already have rights over and above non Irish citizens - i.e. they can't be refused entry - and its an important distinction to make. But if you make a statement that it includes those who have had tests done elsewhere then you are implying that tests done in Ireland have a different impact. Otherwise why bother with specifying that they are done elsewhere. Its badly written advice and considering it is noted by citizens info that those who have a negative test no longer need to self-isolate then it is hardly a massive leap of logic to think you would not be required to do so after travelling in with a negative test in Ireland. The advice, somewhat understandably given the speed with which it is updated, is not very clear. He should never have gone to the dinner and he has acted pretty questionably all round. But it is ridiculous to look at the various advices published and think that you couldn't reasonably judge that a negative test in Ireland would absolve you of the need to further isolate.
