The Nal wrote: » Lets ignore the huge amount of highly educated and skilled professionals who work for large US companies here. All paying tax on their large salaries. People can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forty percent of all people know that.
The employment rate for Africans in Ireland was also very low at 45%
Irishman80 wrote: » We haven't had any significant wage inflation in the West for 40 years. That didn't stop the flight of jobs to low wage economies.One of the biggest issues facing working people in the West is stagnant wages. Wages that dont keep up with productivity simply means that productivity gains are going to the 1%. This is one of the most important reasons for increasing inequality in the West. Any wage gains have been concentrated for high wage jobs. Again increasing inequality. Nobody is arguing about the importance of profits for investment. The problem is abnormal profits which leads to unfair wages. We already live in economies where globalisation, automation, union decline, etc are putting serious pressure on wages. Someone who comes on here and says we should use immigration as another tool to depress wages is the person with the clown knowledge of the economy. Quick edit: It's interesting you didn't suggest looking at wealth taxes/financial taxes or similar ideas to raise money for social welfare - instead let's depress the bum working classes wages to pay for it.
jjmcclure wrote: » Kinda contradicted yourself and proved my point. If businesses can have the same work done somewhere less expensive they eventually will. The more expensive Ireland becomes the more low skilled/medium skilled jobs will move. RPA and automation will replace many semi skilled office jobs, this is inevitable. However new jobs will be created. Average wages in Ireland have risen from approx 36k to just over 40k in 6 years. (2014 to 2019) Wealth taxes just make the average Joe feel better. in reality they will raise very little revenue as the really wealthy are highly mobile and will just move to another jurisdiction with lower taxes.
davedanon wrote: » I know we say it mostly in jest, but here it is for real. A Man U supporter that is genuine scum.
DelaneyIn wrote: » The majority of Africans in Ireland don’t work. Why are we allowing in so many non EU nationals to live off the state? I thought non Eu workers had to get a work visa to stay here.https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1107/1009164-esri_migrants/
gmisk wrote: » Maybe give some more context. It has found that 16% of Africans living in Ireland are out of work, compared with 4% of people from western European countries. The employment rate for Africans in Ireland was also very low at 45%, while 66% of Irish nationals were working.
DelaneyIn wrote: » So how are the 55% entering and financing their stay in the state? The majority aren’t here on work permits. What is going on?
Unemployment among the Irish community in Australia is just 2.4%.
Snickers Man wrote: » Then why was she speaking? I went down for a look. Got past the barricades and approached the crowd, but kept a social distance, stayed well clear of the main throng, and left the way I came after about 5 minutes. All that time Gemma was on the stand demanding that our kids be given Hyrdoxochloroquin (or whatever it is that sounds like that) and leading the crowd in chants of "Shame on you!" So it looks like she was very welcome, actually. Crowd looked like a frightful bunch of low life! I would estimate its size at about 2,000-2,500 but then I'm not a professional guestimator. Nor does it imply that everybody there was a fan of this movement. I'm certainly not, but as an inner city dweller I like to stroll into town to be entertained by loonies of all shades of opinion. And I form my own. I missed the BLM one to the US embassy. But that was in the midst of lockdown and I was being a good confined boy. I don't think Gemma and her loonies have anything sensible, coherent or even justifiable to say. But I think they should be allowed say it, and be subjected to nothing more than the usual crowd control measures (including Covid restrictions) that apply to the rest of us. Long may they remain a fringe, minority bunch of dribbling loonies.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » I dont think Gemma spoke at the weekend. You must have seen someone else speaking.
Clarence Boddiker wrote: » Ireland
DelaneyIn wrote: » Still staggering that the majority of Africans resident - visa required nationals - don’t work. It shows that our immigration system is a shambles. These people aren’t even breaking even, never mind “paying our pensions.” In comparison, the Irish unemployment rate in Australia is just 2.4%.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/17/ireland-australia-land-of-plenty
enricoh wrote: » Our highly prized and highly skilled doctors, nurses, engineers head to Australia sick of paying higher taxes to pay our welfare bill. We replace them with people that will add to our welfare bill! What could possibly go wrong!!
I see sheep wrote: » Are you obsessed with Africans? :pac:
Snickers Man wrote: » I don't think Gemma and her loonies have anything sensible, coherent or even justifiable to say. But I think they should be allowed say it, and be subjected to nothing more than the usual crowd control measures (including Covid restrictions) that apply to the rest of us. Long may they remain a fringe, minority bunch of dribbling loonies.
TaurenDruid wrote: » Have you been to a hospital or nursing home lately? Like, in the last 20, 30 years? Our health service would collapse if it was not for immigrant healthcare professionals. And the people I know who've headed to Oz didn't go because of higher taxes here, either.
enricoh wrote: » Yep, a good asset to our country. Africans on 45% employment - no thanks. Roma gypsies on an even lower percentage and the associated crime - thanks but no thanks. A points based skills assessment for immigrants like the UK asap - before even more bums set their sights on Ireland's welfare state.
micosoft wrote: » It still doesn't address the fact that Immigrants do the jobs the Irish won't do. I don't recall the Irish being made do a points system going to America or the UK?
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » What jobs wont Irish people do?
limitedIQ wrote: » In old Folks homes, the domestic staff (cleaners, porters) are all non-Irish and probably the majority of HCA's are also non-Irish. These places could not run without them.
micosoft wrote: » The problem is that didn't work in America or indeed the UK. It's a paradox but in order to build a tolerant society you must not tolerate the intolerant.
Infini wrote: » Truth is while most protests should be allowed for genuine gievances, they shouldnt allow these terminally stupid ratlickers spread their blatent lies and BS. They're essentially spreading lies and conspiracies because they're too willfully stupid to accept reality and facts. You cannot reason with these fools only deal with them. .
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