The Belly wrote: » And why not? They have a no confidence votes in the Dail why cant we in circumstances like this or similar? Its not as serious but did you vote for the bail out of the banks? I didnt.
TEU Art 17 wrote: In carrying out its responsibilities, the Commission shall be completely independent. Without prejudice to Article. 17 18(2), the members of the Commission shall neither seek nor take instructions from any Government or other institution, body, office or entity.
fly_agaric wrote: » "You" can't get "rid" of him. He's annoyed you so now you want rid immediately. So is that your issue with the nature of "unelected"? You won't be able to "get rid" of anyone in the Dail either for another few years whatever they get up to despite them being directly elected.
Rubberchikken wrote: » Issues like this show why we should be electing our judges, garda commissioner and the eu position hogan holds should be easier to remove than it appears to be. Put in position by friends and allies means it's so much more difficult to remove any of them if need be. We've seen this with past garda commissioners for example, and judges for that matter. Like fools we've listened to the government and hse since March and this is our thanks. Sack phil hogan or make him resign. And then the public should start and the others involved in this debacle.
mick087 wrote: » Phil Hogan did wrong how do we get rif of him?
smurgen wrote: » Our best interests do not coincide with Phil Hogan’s. FG are forever mocking nationalism and now we’re meant to believe in Phil Hogans invisible nationalism. Laughable.
The Belly wrote: » No didnt get the option. Be nice if we could and be able to make an informed decision.
TheBlackPill wrote: » Our Best interests do not coincide with random EU ministers. We have no guarantee a new commissioner would be from Malta/Cyrpus or any of the smaller Eastern european states
fly_agaric wrote: » You have a giant bee in your bonnet about "unelected". What is so wonderful about every position from bottle washer to president being "elected" anyway? So what if part of the EUs executive are unelected? It's just a bullshít talking point that I think originated with Eurosceptics in the UK.
Did you elect the Garda Commissioner, or the Chief Medical Officer, or the Head of the EPA for example?
mick087 wrote: » The other unelected members of the unelected commission maybe on holiday or maybe not, but im sure be well informed of what is going on.
jm08 wrote: » Thats not true. They were elected by the European Parliament. They have a similar system to how the US appoint people with a hearing by select committees in the house. Here is a link to Phil Hogans interrogation by the Euorpean Parliament. It went on for a couple of hours (and there are a couple of videos to it). The Parliament also have to approve a Commissioners Programme of Work.https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/en/hearing-of-phil-hogan-commissioner-designate-trade-questions-and-answers-part-5_I178231-V_v
Larbre34 wrote: » Unfortunately, it serves the Country much better to have Hogan in place as the current Commissioner and in his current portfolio with the Brexit talks crunch coming. It doesn't make what he did turning up to the bash any less stupid, but there are bigger fish to be fried over the next while. Nobody knows that better than Meehole and Leo either. The reason you won't hear another peep from the Commission about it is that undoubtedly other Commissioners have gone on holidays around the continent in slightly less than perfect public health protocol observance and they won't want to kick over that particular hornet's nest. The main focus with this thing is the lack of political leadership and messaging for office holders not to be hypocrits. Thats for Meehole and the Ceann Comhairle to deal with.
Fann Linn wrote: » Water charges was probably to the fore then.
Edgware wrote: » You dont see why not because you don't know how the E.U. Commission operates. Its not all about little Ireland and far more powerful countries in the E.U. would like to get his portfolio
mick087 wrote: » We cannot do this with Phil Hogan because he was selected for an unelected postion with the unelected EU commission who are not accountable to its people. Also this thread is about Should Phil Hogan resign.
Ger Roe wrote: » So is Phil. There is a large pension pot at risk here.
Ger Roe wrote: » He can't represent Ireland's interest - he is employed in a EU capacity. If he showed specific favours towards Ireland he would be in a bigger mess than he is now.
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » Were people up in arms about this in 2012 ?
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Minister apologises for crude sexual insult The guy just oozes class, doesn't he?
jm08 wrote: » That would go down well with the European Parliament - telling them how to vote! The EU Commission want Hogan because a) he is familiar with the Agriculture which is usually the most troublesome when it comes to trade deals. Trade is a really important for the EU and they would want a very experienced person to be Trade Commissioner. Hogan is really highly rated in the EU. Last Friday the EU signed a mini trade deal ice breaker with the US and are now hoping to move on to bigger things.
Redordeadqwwer wrote: » How is it people can't reply to his recent thread on twitter? I've been using it for nearly 10 years and I've never seen that before.
Fann Linn wrote: » Correct. So why did someone bring the Shinners in? Deflection perhaps.
landofthetree wrote: » Mary Lou. What a hypocrite.Worst opposition leader in history
