Sir Oxman wrote: » Martin could communicate with the EU Council and express Ireland now has no confidence in him and I think that would make Hogan untenable?
is_that_so wrote: » Doubtful. He's done what he can and one word rules above all - Brexit - they'd prefer to have him there.
is_that_so wrote: » Then that's pretty much the end of it. Martin and Varadkar just covered their asses.
Sir Oxman wrote: » well, today he isn't going by the looks of his latest, longer apology issued juts now. It's down to Martin and Vradkar following up on their 'no confidence' phone call yesterday and firmly in the EU's court now.
Richard Hillman wrote: » Ain't no way Phil Hogan is giving up that gig. He gets wined and dined all over Europe, samples the local delicacies and Golf courses whilst getting paid a fortune to do it and rarely has to put his hand in his own pocket. And it's not exactly a people facing job either. He doesn't have to face constituents or the media to get himself re-elected. Hes basically a background beurocrat, accountable to nobody. And the EU are absolutely filled with Phil Hogans.
Sir Oxman wrote: » Did Hogan have Ireland's back with the Mercosur deal he secured? Ask the farmers of Ireland how German demands to sell their stuff into S America sold out our beef farmers People need to get it into their heads, Hogan nor any other 'Irish' commissioner wears a green jersey.
Phishnet wrote: » I'd say your a draught's man rather than a chess man and what you demand is irrelevant. You should be looking at the people who were at the Oireachtas Golf Society dinner but who were not mentioned by name. That's real power. Brian Hayes +3 is where the real scandal lies.
Phishnet wrote: » Phil Hogan made a bad decision, but let's get real. Is it proportionate for him to resign. He is the European Commmissioner for Trade, that one of the most important positions in the EU, and guess what he is IRISH. He is the guy whom along with Barnier will try and knock out a trade agreement with Boris the bully, relating to BREXIT. Cop on people, if he goes we lose our representation in Europe particularly regarding agriculture. Do you think a replacement EU Commissioner for Trade, from somewhere like Estonia, is going to have Ireland's back. Think, before we look for this head on a plate. The old phrase " Cutting off your nose to spite your face" springs to mind. Strategic thinking is required in this instance. By all mean look for Woulfe's head, he signed off on the Covid legislation so he has no defence. But leave big Phil in place, it's in Ireland's interest.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » Hogan is not an ally of/representing Ireland at EU level. He's representing the EU agenda as a whole. Regardless of whether it's him or someone else in the role, the effect to Ireland will be unchanged.
Pelezico wrote: » Hardly a scandal.
MickeyLeari wrote: » Indeed and they are thinking to themselves (China thinks strategy in 100’s or years) that a country where the Government demand the resignation of one of their most powerful allies in Europe is probably a country to steer clear from in terms of investment but we will continue buying milk powder from them.
ChikiChiki wrote: » Thats fairly mad. To see these shenanigans in a country of 5 million being reported by a superpower of over a billion people. Wouldn't have even thought we would register on their radar.
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » Oh boy. You make it in the Chinese news you really big news.
smurgen wrote: » It made Chinese state news too.https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1297186387804819456?s=08
Phishnet wrote: » Phil Hogan made a bad decision, but let's get real. Is it proportionate for him to resign. He is the Europan Commmissioner for Trade, that one of the most important positions in the EU, and guess what he is IRISH. He is the guy whom along with Barnier will try and knock out a trade agreement with Boris the bully relating to BREXIT. Cop on people, if he goes we lose our representation in Europe particularly regarding agriculture. Do you think a replacement EU Commissioner for Trade, from somewhere like Estonia is going to have Ireland's back. Think, before we look for this head on a plate. The old phrase " Cutting off ones nose to spite our face" springs to mind. Strategic thinking is required in this instance. By all mean look for Woulfe's head, he signed off on the Covid legislation so he has no defence. But leave big Phil in place, it's in Ireland's interest.
malinheader wrote: » I thought he was certain to be gone, but after them now pushing the Brexit disaster if he goes I'm not so sure. Going to be very interesting to see how this ends.
MickeyLeari wrote: » Are they any good?
Gerry Hatrick wrote: » It's about window dressing. "We are all behind Ireland in this". You really think we have a say what happens with Brexit? The Europeans will do what's best for the european trading bloc not Ireland
appledrop wrote: » I switched over to Newstalk. Much better. Load of crap on RTE basicially saying Big Phil vital. What a load of crap.
smelly sock wrote: » I'd agree. But everyone at the dinner should have been aware if was wrong on so many levels not just covid. Brian Hayes the banker sitting with politicians. A judge. Property developers. Journalists. All rubbing shoulders with tds, a minister and senators. It stinks all the more when you look at it like that. Perhaps thats more serious than covid.
