McMurphy wrote: » No Leo didn't have any direct involvement in the dismemberment,**whoosh** he was just Taoiseach at the time, same for the housing and health crises his govt presided over so there's that, though there is the disastrous election results in fairness leo was involved there alright. Next up you'll be telling me Leo had no involvement in Ireland and "fastest growing economy in Europe", right?
_Kaiser_ wrote: » The tweet is stupid and sensationalist but the issues behind each statement are the key points. Elderly people suffering the indignity and embarrassment of incontinence because they're lying on a trolley in a hall because there's no bed/room to put them in as FG failed on health is what they're (badly) getting at
sydthebeat wrote: » Every successive government we've had since the 70s are guilty off the same issue.... And with the recession that's coming the next government will also be guilty off the same issue. We've had doctors as our ministers for health and even they haven't been able to sort out the cluster fcuk that is our acute and general hospital service.
MickeyLeari wrote: » All I am saying is that here and in the media and on social media the Government was being criticised on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday in respect to the uncertainty and inconsistency on what was agreed by Cabinet on Tuesday this week. What did the new rules mean? When did they come into effect? What were the exceptions? What about existing events? This was a disaster of a week for the Government - we are all over the place as a country. Open things up to get the economy moving. Shut down hospitality because of meat plant failures. If you were an MNE looking at investment in this country - right now like the 1980’s and the financial crisis you would run a mile away.
Psychiatric Patrick wrote: » There has been mention of the water charges a good few times. Is that why people are outraged about Hogan breaking the restrictions? Or all the politician and others getting the same anger ?
wrangler wrote: » They should leave Phil alone, we haven't anyone with the talent, common sense or experience to replace him. the same applies to replacing the Minister for Agriculture. There's too much going on in the real world to be allowing politicians to be playing musical chairs
Fr_Dougal wrote: » If Hogan, Cowen, Calleary and co. were SF politicians you’d have Mary Loooo brush everything off and declare that she’s “not their mammies”. Has that SF councillor in Monaghan resigned yet? Nope. Has Mary Loooo called for her resignation? Nope. The double standards.
MickeyLeari wrote: » What is interesting in all this is the Leo-Hogan relationship. Hogan has had a lot of backroom power in FG for some time - he ensured that Kenny survived the heave from Bruton and the rumours were that he devised the strategy and put a lot of weight behind Leo in his leadership battle with Coveney (some expressed the view that his enthusiasm for Leo was more in respect to his previous relationship with Hugh Coveney but that is probably more rumours). What is also interesting of this gets personal. Hogan keeps his job but is spiteful and holds it against the Irish Government.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » We don't replace him. He works for the EU not Ireland
wrangler wrote: » Is he not paid by Ireland Mickeyleari is right though, this heave against Phil is going to achieve nothing only bad feeling from a person with the power to make things difficult for us
Gerry Hatrick wrote: » Can i ask why you would think Hogan would want to do a deal that favours Ireland?
the purple tin wrote: » She hasn't done anything wrong afaik. She went on holiday in Lanzarote then self-isolated in a holiday home in Donegal for a fortnight when she got back. I think people are angry because she didn't SI in her own home, but I'm not sure if there's more to it than that.
wrangler wrote: » Is he not paid by Ireland Mickeyleari is right though, this heave against him is going to achieve nothing only bad feeling from a person with the power to make things difficult for us
Fuascailteoir wrote: » Not as easy to self isolate in donegal as there are feck all supermarkets that would do home delivery in most places. Probably means she was fluting around the shops in donegal.
Dubh Geannain wrote: » I hope his spokesperson doesn't lose their job out of this. This is the collateral damage people fail to see in this witchhunt :pac:
MickeyLeari wrote: » Maybe all politicians should have ankle bracelets and cams so we should follow all their movements.
Pelezico wrote: » This thread is a joke. The Irish get far too emotional about this. And all because he wanted to upgrade Irish Water to a proper commercial footing.
MickeyLeari wrote: » A good question - I suspect Hogan’s primary loyalty is to himself and his own ambitions. But you generally find that the French and Italian Commissioners are first and foremost French and Italian.
smelly sock wrote: » Yeh being told you cant go to funerals and have to cancel all family gatherings. Being told you cant go to a match. Being told we are all in it together. Sure why would anyone be upset at them flouting the guidelines and giving us the 2 fingers.
Gerry Hatrick wrote: » Sure but we know Hogan's track record, he doesn't care about the Irish public in general. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if an Irish guy or a guy from Latvia is in his position Merkel will call the shots with Macron looking over his shoulder.
MickeyLeari wrote: » Not really in reality. How then did Paschal Donoghue get the job ahead of a Spanish nominee who had the backing of Merkel and Macron?
