nigeldaniel wrote: » Resign, resign resing, that's all some people ever demand. If we had that we would be having an election every 3 months. I am guessing the ultra-left would love that.
two wheels good wrote: » The "ultra-left" That must be harder than the hard left. How hard would you say - on a scale of 1 to well-hard? Listening to media reports the condemnation of this disregard of regulations seems to be across all sections of society including the elderly, mature and probably more conservative sections.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Irish water was and still is a great idea.
LillySV wrote: » This man had fuct Irish people over for years. I forget what it was but he made some deal around a month or two ago which was totally against all Irish peoples interests... even annoyed the govt... does anyone here remember what exactly happened again ??? Hard to find story with all the current events!
Peregrinus wrote: » Although European Commissioners are nominated by Member State governments, they are not appointed by them and they cannot dismissed by them. The Commission as a whole can be dismissed by the Parliament, but I don't think the Parliament has the power to dismiss invidual Comissioners. It could, I suppose, threaten to dismiss the entire Commission if an individual Commissioner did niot resign. I don't know whether the President of the Commission can fire an individual Commissioner, but she could certainly request him to resign. And she could effectively force him to resign by reallocating portfolios within the Commission so that he had nothing to do. But none of this really matters. The only reason we notice Hogan's transgression is because he is Irish, and it happened here. When was the last time you heard about a personal transgression of another European Commissioner that had nothing to do with the discharge of his functions? Hogan's attendance at this dinner won't even be a blip in the news cycle outside Ireland, and it won't bother the Commission or the Parliament. It has nothing at all to do with his job as Commissioner with responsibility for Agriculture and Rural Development.
For Forks Sake wrote: » I wouldn't want to be the unfortunate person tasked with asking him to consider his position
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Yeah, I'd imagine it'd be a similar experience to this guy's:
Dav010 wrote: » In time, the necessity for Irish Water will be obvious to even the most opaque of minds, but I do agree the roll out was an example of how not to get the country to buy into paying for a service that is essential to their wellbeing.
MadYaker wrote: » Nail on the head. This won't be news outside of Ireland and Hogan will continue on. We have bigger problems at home anyway.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » There are plenty of outside news agencies covering the story. In brief I would imagine but still covered
the purple tin wrote: » C4 news had a good long segment on it last night.
Yurt! wrote: » I think we all understand the difference between Sandra the hairdresser from Newbridge breaking lockdown, and one of the most powerful poltical figures in Europe flaunting anti-pandemic measures during one of the most devastating economic and health events in decades. Also, apparently Hogan had to issue a written apology to a staffer of John Bruton following a sexually charged comment he made to her at an Oireachtas golf outing at the same venue (see last two paragraphs of linked article). Connemara golf trips have not been kind to the blockhead.https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/you-knackers-well-put-manners-on-you-phil-hogans-threat-to-our-journalists-29105543.html?fbclid=IwAR2qaSXfrx8dftpHQF-oBmT5fkrxVlNHeTOOW306_HTqHKsCXc73CKmxO64
ExMachina1000 wrote: » New York times covered it
Dufflecoat Fanny wrote: » ah lads the shame of it
Mysterypunter wrote: » Yes, but rundown properties are renovated and used as either rental properties or sold on, they are not purchased and lived in within a few days, this company was selling a pipe dream with no pipes.
Dav010 wrote: » How does water get to houses?
Mysterypunter wrote: » And on the subject of big Phil, he has no worries about resignation, he will just brazen it out and head back to mainland Europe. Free dinners are nothing new to him, they are a perk of the job, put it on the expenses. Entitled entitled entitled.
Mysterypunter wrote: » Could be a private well, or bottled water, like the people of Galway, I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but it is too intrusive, like the TV licence being switched to a receiving device licence, so you need a phone or PC license in theory, it's all about control, but only the same people trying to be the puppet masters.
the purple tin wrote: » The big names of Golfgate are all high up in google suggestions today as well. This story has legs, and it just keeps giving too.
Dav010 wrote: » The people of Galway have private wells? It’s about water getting to your house through an upgraded water system that reduces leakage. It’s not intrusive, it’s a necessity, having a television isn’t.
Pelezico wrote: » Is this ridiculous thread still going? Sound and fury...little else.
Mysterypunter wrote: » But isn't that what taxes are for, this is just a money making exercise, if they are at that sort of thing, why don't they open it up, and accept tenders for provision of service, the way they did it is not competitive, they want a monopoly, like Montgomery Burns blocking out the sun in the Simpsons. They are skint because of their own mismanagement, selling natural gas, and fishing rights, and closing sugar factories, this is a small island, it could almost be self sufficient, Norway have a trillion dollar oil fund, which is a big number, it is a one, followed by thirteen zeros. That is used for the good of society, and provides a high standard of living, as is the norm in Scandinavia. In this country, they would have sold it to a private company, and spent the tank on pints of Guinness and jolly ups for the boys, I don't know who negotiated the giving up of a lot of our resources, but whoever it was should be done for treason. Hogan is party to it now. He is influential at EU level. Peter Sutherland was another economic fat cat who had a free hand to chuck away our sovereignty and make us all into good little Europeans
Dav010 wrote: » It’s astonishing after all the publicity about this that you think tax intake will pay for this. A substantial part of the water system in Ireland is over 100 years old and made of old, leaking pipes. Though parts are relatively new, if the water has to pass through the old parts, enormous amounts of water are lost. Replacing it will cost billions and take years, the reason for the water charges was to pay for this without raising taxes or borrowing billions. It was the fairest and most equitable way as you got your free allowance and then paid only what you used from the meter to your home. What private company would be stupid enough to take on the mammoth replacement of the existing pipe work in the hope that people would then pay for their water afterwards? Do you think it should be a philanthropic exercise? spend billions and get no return. Those “good Europeans” bailed us out buddy.
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