McMurphy wrote: » It just happened to be that particular gards funeral that was openly and publicly flouting the social distancing guidelines a few days before the Shinners.. I would bring up Van Morrison had he of been buried a few days before hand and there was a mass public gathering of mourners breaking the social distancing guidelines. You're now trying to suggest people shouldn't bring it up at all because it doesn't suit, not because of who he was and how he died.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » What’s your point, amigo? It’s all a bit incoherent. You aren’t a former sports hack and the worst podcaster in history by any chance? As for me; I grew up in the Connemara Gaeltacht. Far from a life of luxury. That’s another great thing about being a member of FG - it’s a broad church that represents the best of this state and it’s citizens. Aspirational, caring, nuanced, ambitious, pragmatic. That riles up some people. That’s good though.
christy c wrote: » I'm an suggesting that people don't bring it up out of respect/empathy for someone who gave his life serving his country. Not for some point scoring as is used by SF supporters. There wers mistakes at the funeral but no need to drag his name up every few days
christy c wrote: » That post clearly wasn't about the Garda. We see the SF fans telling us that the Garda funeral was not highlighted out of respect, yet he is dragged up any time it is convenient.
McMurphy wrote: » As I said - no one gave a shiny shyte about the social distancing measures being broke at his funeral despite the virus - but FG in particular tried to make a big deal out of the same social distancing guidelines being flouted at the shinners. "It's disrespectful to the dead Garda" ain't going to wash - the virus doesn't give a sh1t who's funeral it was buddy, the virus just wants new hosts so it can recreate itself and spread to others. FG/FF/SF Voters will all get the same dose of covid 19 if the virus gets a chance - you don't get it, there's no moral high ground here.
Bowie wrote: » I am making direct comparisons. If a person wants to be nasty about one but ignore the other its complete hypocrisy. That was clearly the point. Now go on what were you still saying about check points? Important stuff. If you leave a locked down County the Garda pay no heed. Defeats the purpose. I would imagine those Garda present at the piss up were aware they were...at an 80÷ piss up.
christy c wrote: » Look, if yourself and fellow supporters had so much empathy, you would not be dragging his name in whenever convenient. You can defend SF without dragging up a murdered Garda when it suits.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Methinks christy c (who claims to be politically neutral) [
Bowie wrote: » By pointing out when others do same? How on earth is bringing up Storey's funeral to use for point scoring noble or okay but pointing out how pathetic it is by making comparisons 'dragging' someone's name when convenient? You and your fellow supporters are the ones using a funeral constantly to try win your little game. When it gets particularly low like that post I'll be inclined to raise Horkan's based on the similarities of the events. So all you are doing here is deciding which you prefer to respect based on politics. Hypocritical. Its nit defending SF. Its printout bull in a discussion. You and your fellow travelers are one again using SF to hide your blushes dragging his name up when ever convenient. Then I will and continue to point out your hypocrisy is ignoring the Garda funeral. Personally as I've said before I would be raising neither.
christy c wrote: » Cut the BS, I have said that I have voted for FG and continue to vote for them as best of a bad lot. I have gave clear reasons why i do not vote for the other major parties so I dont need spoofers like yourself implying ulterior motives.
christy c wrote: » We were through this yesterday, the checkpoints was your imagination.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Who implied 'ulterior motives'? It's abundantly clear what you are doing.
christy c wrote: » I read you implying that I am not politcally neutral as having an ulterior motive. Can you explain to me what I am doing? Bowie was saying I am trying to save FGs blushes, what's your theory? BTW there are plenty of threads criticising FG for the Clifden scumbaggery where I have not defended them.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Quite simply, you are trying to block parts of a discussion you don't like and find difficult. Please stop as that is censorship of a kind and it won't work anyhow.
christy c wrote: » Haha, I am trying to censor discussion. Why do you want me to stop if it won't work anyhow?
FrancieBrady wrote: » I want you to stop for your own sake. It makes you look like a non-neutral?
christy c wrote: » SF's brainfart as you like to call them was all over the news and caused problems with the other parties in the North, nothing to do with Fg. It is disrespectful to the dead Garda to drag his name up, despite the social distancing problems at his funeral. I never suggested the virus cares about who's funeral it was.
christy c wrote: » I'm sure you are very concerned about me.
christy c wrote: » You replied to a poster who was making a (stupid IMO) dig at SF and IRa by playing dumb and bringing up the Garda. It was clearly an IRA dig so absolutely no need to bring him up. What did you not understand about the checkpoints? It was said that politicians got through checkpoints because they were going to a golf event. I just said that FG came out bad enough out of this without making stuff up.
McMurphy wrote: » Christy I must say, for a lad who only votes for fg as the best of a bad lot, and see the biggest problems about Sinn Féin being "apple tax and pension age"** you're putting a fierce piece of effort into this funeral malarkey, and wanting people to not mention one funeral over the other. **I think you cross your fingers behind your back when you type out those words.
FrancieBrady wrote: » And I would say the same about your concern for a Garda. I think you are more concerned about an unanswerable accusation of double standards/hypocrisy than anything else tbh.
christy c wrote: » No, I have family in the Gardai have respect for the good ones which Colm definitely seems to have been one of, and dont like seeing his name being brought up to score points. Your waffle about crossing my fingers aside, I despise SF for their brain dead approach to the apple tax and burying their head in the sand approach to the pension timebomb as you said. But also their nonsensical Corporate tax polices, wanting to slash the tax base to leave it very dependent on high income individuals, etc. If they came up with semi coherent economic policies they could be worth a shot.
christy c wrote: » I am not concerned for a Garda? Really pathetic. He was brought up in response to a post about the IRA FFS.
Bowie wrote: » He was speaking on the funeral held by SF to deflect from the golf piss up. Your felliw travelers do this a lot, yet won't mention the Garda funeral which was the exact same event and had the same issues regarding Covid. Both should have been handled differently IMO. You are giving the raising of Storey's a pass and being critical of Horkan's being used as comparison to show hypocrisy. Thats you playing favourites. I would expect the lockdown counties had similar check points we had during the early days were Garda at checkpoints would ask were you were going and why. Maybe there were none and these lockdowns were a note in the parish newsletter. The Garda escorting these individuals and those present were complicit in breaking the rules. Thats my take away. If he showed there were check points you'd be questioning what constitutes a 'real' checkpoint etc. Its distraction like raising the storey funeral.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The criticism is of Colm Horkan's funeral not Colm Horkan himself.
christy c wrote: » I know, and that would be nice for his family to read?
Bowie wrote: » I have a good friend who's a Sargent. I've no family in SF or friends. It doesnt change the fact the storey funeral is being used to deflect. Now its fair comment to use it to call out the covid breaches regarding distancing. Beyond that its getting into disrespect of the family. You are making one untouchable while allowing the other. Thats hypocrisy.
