jh79 wrote: » Mary Lou on the Six One news specifically said as an aside that the golf club thing was wrong irrespective of the virus.
jh79 wrote: » I don't think they were but MLD does.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yeh right. The 'elites' were in Clifden jh79...wakey wakey.
jh79 wrote: » Do watch it. Surely it is an example of populist rhetoric? Elites conspiring against us.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Don't do it on my account, if she said it I disagree.
jh79 wrote: » It was the Six One news. Dunno if they do clips of interviews. RTE player should have it. Will have a look.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Apologies...didn't realise you were talking about bankers and TD's...didn't see the interview, only an edited version. Can you link? If she said it, I disagree.
jh79 wrote: » Francie, all who break the rules should resign. MLD should have resigned but didn't. She specifically said td's and bankers shouldn't socialise together irrespective of the virus. Again why can SF MLA's socialise with criminals but ff/fg can't with law abiding citizens who happen to be bankers?
FrancieBrady wrote: » That remains to be seen. I can guarantee my response if it happens Have a glass a wine in each other's homes so. I think one of the big eyeopeners for a lot of people today is the interconeectedness of the establishment. I knew this, the surprise for me was a hero of mine being there - feet of clay there. If SF endorse murder, I guarantee you they lose my vote.
jh79 wrote: » And those in criminal gangs have nothing to gain by having a cosy relationship with SF given they could be in power in the near future?
Ever cross your mind that some of these people were friends in college? Are they not allowed separate their work life from their social life!
What kind of warped mind thinks you ditch those that have climbed the corporate ladder and are law abiding but retain those who murder, launder diesel and smuggle?
Rows Grower wrote: » Best thing is not to upset yourself too much about this particular fact and the next time don't vote for her or her party. Might be a good idea to stop watching the Irish news too.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Well what the f*** was going on? Members of the judiciary partying with members of select political parties? Details emerging on the other thread of some of the business interests there too. It's all very cozy between the power swap parties and the part of the state apparatus they are supposed to be separated from. The Gardai watching on too as regs were being broken.
McMurphy wrote: » Didn't see it, (the interview) but have seen it discussed on the Dara Calleary thread, and the general consensus there is that she was saying there was a difference in a funeral and a golf outing, which I agree with. Emotions will be running high at a funeral, hence why I thought it was completely to be accepted that the social distancing measures were ignored at times during both the Garda and Storey funerals, both were wrong, but could be forgiven in my eyes. It's hypocritical to have a problem with one and not the other.
jh79 wrote: » I agree completely. But MLD was on news today saying there was no equivalency with the Clifden incident. Was she right or wrong?
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'The Virus Likes To Party' according to Dara Calleary on Wednesday last when he probably had the invite for a two day in his pocket.
FrancieBrady wrote: » They are all hypocrits when it suits...what makes you think that I think there is a perfect political party out there, I don't really know. And please jh79...do me a favour and stop trying to diminish the significance of the power swap parties, the judiciary, journalists and the Gardai all ignoring regs and giving two fingers to the entire country by calling it a 'game of fecking golf.' That game has accounted for multiple apologies and the resignation of two government TD's and an abject Taoiseach on our national broadcaster. Not to mention severely weakening the government.
jh79 wrote: » Given that Murphy is still a MLA is it hypocritical of MLD to criticise TD's for playing fecking golf with bank managers and the like?
McMurphy wrote: » The virus can't tell the difference in a Gardas funeral or a Sinn Fein funeral either jh.
jh79 wrote: » Seen Mary Lou on the news. So in her amoral world it's wrong for td's to play golf with judges and lobbyist put xmas parties with criminals and murderers is fine. And of course the virus can tell the difference between a party and a mock funeral.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I explained this before in fairness jh79 The IRA whom I never supported (but as republican understood why they did what they did) had to convince me. As had SF that they were applying their commitments to the GFA. I think what Adams and McGuinness did was outstanding in bringing them (IRA) into democratic politics. I understood a number of things...rather than sensationally go on about white bearded old men in the whins pulling nefarious strings I understood not all of them would get or take up elected office and that there was a possibility some people who did awful things would be in the background. That is a post conflict/war society. I also understand what the IMC referred to when they talked about 'difficulties in South Armagh' for the IRA and control. That too was always going to happen and I think Murphy apologising has brought him at least to heel. I think he should resign though. I am convinced SF are fulfilling their commitments to the GFA...therefore can vote for them.
jh79 wrote: » I thought that was why you said Murphy should resign. If the answer was because of the "conflict" it's normal that some dodgy characters would still be involved? Surely that doesn't apply if they are still active after the GFA. McCabes 's gang have been named as those involved. His gang is what people are referring to as those operating in the area but without the blessing of Gerry or the late B Storey?
FrancieBrady wrote: » That question I answered on the other thread.
jh79 wrote: » Fair enough. An assumption on my part. In your opinion is it worse for an elected politician to associate with the likes of "one shot" or bank managers?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Where are you getting the 'invited' bit? It was a Christmas party in a pub from what I know. You gilding the lily? p.s. That wasn't why I thought Murphy should resign, I thought that because he got involved in the case when he shouldn't have.
jh79 wrote: » Was posted earlier in one of the SF threads you and I post on. Some Sunday paper from NI. Conor Murphy and "One Shot" McCabe. The pictures were taken after the murder of Paul Quinn too. Francie thought it was enough evidence for Murphy to resign.
jm08 wrote: » You'd have to tell me who and which function this active member of a criminal gang was at.
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