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PHIL HOGAN NEEDS TO RESIGN.

  • 21-08-2020 10:07am
    #1
    Mrcaramelchoc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭


    I for one want him gone.


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  • #2
    stoneill
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭stoneill


    I agee!


  • #3
    SouthWesterly
    Registered Users Posts: 6,436 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    I would imagine that will be down to his boss. He'll brazen it out if he can


  • #4
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users Posts: 11,460 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    I wouldn't want to be the unfortunate person tasked with asking him to consider his position


  • #5
    Gerry Hatrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    He'll hold onto his pension though. In my mind all these guys should have their pensions removed and told to go swing.

    ec-president-vdl@ec.europa.eu

    That's Hogan's bosses email contact. Let them know how you feel about this. I have emailed them this morning.


  • #6
    Mrcaramelchoc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    He'll hold onto his pension though. In my mind all these guys should have their pensions removed and told to go swing.

    ec-president-vdl@ec.europa.eu

    That's Hogan's bosses email contact. Let them know how you feel about this. I have emailed them this morning.

    Brilliant i will be doing exactly that.


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  • #7
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 31,811 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    No chance he will style it out imo....the big head on him he thinks he is untouchable


  • #8
    ethical
    Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭ethical


    Big Phil,The arrogant untouchable wont go,there are many of his ilk in Irish Society,look at the ETBs for instance,"lads" "retired " for 30 years and still on the gravy train...UNTOUCHABLES in a GOLDEN CIRCLE,but how dare you tell them this or your career will stall and go nowhere while they get the cream.

    Its time all these BSTARDS were rooted out of Irish Society!


  • #9
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    gmisk wrote: »
    No chance he will style it out imo....the big head on him he thinks he is untouchable

    He has gotten this far in life with that method, I can see him sticking it out.


  • #10
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Although European Commissioners are nominated by Member State governments, they are not appointed by them and they cannot dismissed by them. The Commission as a whole can be dismissed by the Parliament, but I don't think the Parliament has the power to dismiss invidual Comissioners. It could, I suppose, threaten to dismiss the entire Commission if an individual Commissioner did niot resign.

    I don't know whether the President of the Commission can fire an individual Commissioner, but she could certainly request him to resign. And she could effectively force him to resign by reallocating portfolios within the Commission so that he had nothing to do.

    But none of this really matters. The only reason we notice Hogan's transgression is because he is Irish, and it happened here. When was the last time you heard about a personal transgression of another European Commissioner that had nothing to do with the discharge of his functions? Hogan's attendance at this dinner won't even be a blip in the news cycle outside Ireland, and it won't bother the Commission or the Parliament. It has nothing at all to do with his job as Commissioner with responsiblity for Agriculture and Rural Development.


  • #11
    Gerry Hatrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/08/20/world/europe/20reuters-health-coronavirus-ireland.html

    #sackphilhogan


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  • #12
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Although European Commissioners are nominated by Member State governments, they are not appointed by them and they cannot dismissed by them. The Commission as a whole can be dismissed by the Parliament, but I don't think the Parliament has the power to dismiss invidual Comissioners. It could, I suppose, threaten to dismiss the entire Commission if an individual Commissioner did niot resign.

    Hogan's attendance at this dinner won't even be a blip in the news cycle outside Ireland, and it won't bother the Commission or the Parliament. It has nothing at all to do with his job as Commissioner with responsiblity for Agriculture and Rural Development.

    Could the Irish government recall him like an ambassador and send a replacement. I dont see this happening either.


  • #13
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Could the Irish government recall him like an ambassador and send a replacement. I dont see this happening either.
    No, they can't. They didn't appoint him. He doesn't represent them. His official connection with the Irish state is zero - none at all.


  • #14
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    He'll hold onto his pension though. In my mind all these guys should have their pensions removed and told to go swing.

    ec-president-vdl@ec.europa.eu

    That's Hogan's bosses email contact. Let them know how you feel about this. I have emailed them this morning.

    Done.


  • #15
    silver2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    He'll hold onto his pension though. In my mind all these guys should have their pensions removed and told to go swing.

    ec-president-vdl@ec.europa.eu

    That's Hogan's bosses email contact. Let them know how you feel about this. I have emailed them this morning.

    oh ffs, the covid police are at it again.

    Your email will go immediately into the trash bin where it belongs.


  • #16
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    The Teflon Don.


  • #17
    thebronze14
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭thebronze14


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Could the Irish government recall him like an ambassador and send a replacement. I dont see this happening either.
    I vote for an inanimate carbon rod


  • #18
    Gentleman Off The Pitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Gentleman Off The Pitch


    Big Phil, too big to fall


  • #19
    Imhof Tank
    Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Didnt he resign before when junior minister department of finance in the Rainbow, leaked the budget and did the honorable thing IIRC


  • #20
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Has Leo made any comments yet?


  • #21
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    John 8:7


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  • #22
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    He is an excellent commissioner. He should stay.


  • #23
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Has Leo made any comments yet?

    Probably gone off shopping for shoes


  • #24
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    I’m still trying to get over the Moroccan ambassador been there. Probably the best Moroccan ambassador ever. What was he thinking.


  • #25
    Limpy
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    The Oligarchs in the EU wont want the apple cart upset. The trough will be kept open for Hogan. If he Broke quarantine then maybe he will come under pressure. Hopefully he falls on his trotters.


  • #26
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Has Leo made any comments yet?

    To paraphrase love actually. I’m just a boy standing in front of a commissioner, asking him to resign.


  • #27
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    landofthetree wrote: »
    He is an excellent commissioner. He should stay.
    If he resigns does that mean he will want his old village idiot job back. There's a quque of people in Kilkenny on that list. He cant just barge in and take it


  • #28
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,413 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I would love it if Trickle has to resign. Arrogant and entitled as they come.


  • #29
    Gerry T
    Registered Users Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    Can you tell me why he should resign


  • #30
    quokula
    Registered Users Posts: 3,569 ✭✭✭quokula


    Why exactly would we want someone who's fighting our corner during Brexit negotiations to resign and most likely be replaced with somebody from another country who won't have as much interest in Ireland?

    Because he had dinner out during lockdown? It was a stupid thing to do but I assume the other million plus people in the country who have also done that at some point should resign from their jobs too by that logic?


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  • #31
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    if he resigns, Does this not mean ireland Looses it's commisioner?


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