FrancieBrady wrote: » This was one of the documents that have led me to my current view of SF and IRA. http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/globalassets/documents/raise/knowledge_exchange/briefing_papers/series7/dempster180418.pdf Also, Geoff Knufler telling the Assembly that he was satisfied that former mebers of the IRA were doing all they could to assist. (I cannot find the link) Yet the evidence laid out in this case (Aaron Brady) is that SF did what they said they would do...assist in every way possible to get justice for the Donohue family. They convinced a reluctant witness (we still don't know the nature of that reluctance, despite the usual jumping to conclusions by the usuals) to give his evidence. They, as Pat Leavy and the other journalists wrote, gave Gardai 'the break they needed in the case'. For that they have received yet another botched attempt to blacken the name of the party. Seems to me it is not SF that is out on a very dodgy limb here.
jm08 wrote: » Well, for example, if it was over a woman, it would enable the PSNI/Bertie Ahern/SF/Enda Kenny/ Olivia Mitchell, Hugh Orde, BBC Spotlight etc. to clear Paul Quinn's name that he had anything to do with criminality, which is what Mrs Quinn wants - her son's name to be cleared of having had anything to do with criminality. Lets not forget, Paul Quinn lost his life and Mrs Quinn lost a son. She is looking for small comfort for that and she should be given it.
Truthvader wrote: » What motive would you need if your entitled to mutilate other people from the off
Truthvader wrote: » Because all these vague unsubstantiated Sinn Fein Trumpy fake news allegations are so much worse than beating a boy to death. What is most revealing is the Sinn Fein double think on all matters. "Crime " might not be really crime if it is "authorised" by Sinn Fein /IRA It might just be "understandable". It could even be "unauthorised" but still just a little bit wrong - but not a crime. A murder might not really be a murder, it might be an unauthorised "action" or it might be just regrettable. It might also be an "authorised" murder in which case it is OK and no-one is allowed seek justice or explanation - and of course even when a Garda killer is actually convicted he might really be innocent. Twisting and wriggling to the bitter end. Sickening to read all the posts but above all very very revealing. Hope some of the eejits who voted Sinn Fein because of the "magic porridge pot" solution to housing are reading this thread
Bowie wrote: » I'm speaking on the public records of FF/FG. Unlike your SF is riddled with murders 'trumpy fake news allegations'. More this is how you see it and anyone who disagrees must be blah blah blah... I stand by my reasoning. FF/FG will cost the tax payer more billions on crony ineptitude than SF will plant bombs or dissappear Twink.
Shefwedfan wrote: » The whole Sin Fein brigade on here really have sunk to a new low today. No wonder SF are telling you lot to stay off social media. Absolute disgrace
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » They’re, certainly, not “toeing” the party line, S. Perhaps were dealing with a Provisional, or Continuity, Sinn Fein on here, b'fhéidir?
onh81 wrote: » I think you should stick to your toilet thread it’s more your domain.
charlie14 wrote: » That would undoubtedly give some small comfort to Mrs Quinn, but I would imagine the scum responsible for so viciously murdered her son being behind bars for a very long time would bring even more comfort to her and the rest of that community. The fact that they are not shows the hold those vicious unprincipled bast**ds have over that community, where one wrong word can result in you being beaten to death.
jm08 wrote: » All Mrs Quinn wanted from Conor Murphy is to say that her son wasn't a criminal. Every other expression of regret that he has made has been rejected by her.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Tell us all what he said?
jm08 wrote: » You know you can google it yourself! But anyway (from Irish Times). “I [Conor Murphy] have consistently and unreservedly condemned the murder of Paul Quinn.“Those who murdered him are criminals and need to be brought to justice. “I repeat my call on anyone with any information on his murder to bring it to the Gardai or the PSNI. I very much regret comments I made in the aftermath of Paul’s murder which have added to the grief felt by the Quinn family. “I apologise for those remarks and I unreservedly withdraw them. “Once again I offer to meet the Quinn family at a time and place of their convenience.”https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f%C3%A9in-s-conor-murphy-apologises-for-paul-quinn-comments-1.4162494?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fsinn-f%25C3%25A9in-s-conor-murphy-apologises-for-paul-quinn-comments-1.4162494
Patrick2010 wrote: » One of the regular Shinners here said the only witnesses to the beating to death of Paul Quinn were the 10 or so thugs who killed him so there was no point in asking them to give evidence. Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Paul set up by the killers forcing friends of his to ring him to reassure him it was ok to meet them, at which he was taken and killed. Would any of those friends consider going to Gerry for permission to say what and who they knew was involved?
maccored wrote: » lads, why are ye's bothering replying to the unionist minded posters? All they want is to talk you down, waffle on a bit and hear themselves pontificate. The last time I heard 'sinn fein IRA' being used as much was way back in the Trimble days. Anyone who has that little interest, in that everything is 'SF IRA' isnt worth bothering with. Pure lazy thinking.
Shefwedfan wrote: » You can guess what the answer would be. What should happen is SF should go to these people and ask them to cooperate with the PSNI and Garda fully.
smurgen wrote: » Bit rich coming from the lad defending drink drivers and animal abusers.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Are you actually serious? You have now compared someone getting killed to a person who got pups from a dog with a vets approval That’s your opinion of a persons life. Disgusting
smurgen wrote: » You compared them buddy. You seem to be constructing arguments in your own head. I was merely pointing out that you have poor poor judgement as evidenced by your unwaivering support for drink driving animal abuser Barry Cowan on this very site.
mynamejeff wrote: » So your argument is better murders than fraudsters ?
IAMAMORON wrote: » What a disgusting attitude to have. Would rather see citizens murdered. Look at where you are now?
JohnnyFlash wrote: » The Bobby Storey funeral is a perfect example of how SF and the IRA are still one and the same.
