Sinn Fein Omerta

blanch152 wrote: »

I have rasied Paul Quinn's death numerous times on these forums, oftentimes outside of elections at times like this.

It was a horrifying experience to listen to Breege Quinn and hear about what was done to her son, a human being, and then the way that denial and obfuscation and slander were used as tactics by Sinn Fein public representatives and social media trolls.

I can tell you that people like me certainly do give a ****.

Who in SF denies what happened to Paul Quinn...and you only use Quinn and various other emotive selective victims when you wish to damage your boogeymen.

jm08 wrote: »

Did you see Bertie's half hearted apology? Why have the police not arrested anyone and put them before the courts?

Oh, the answer to that is very clear. Unlike in the case of Donohoe's case, the witnesses were told by the Sinn Fein heirarchy in the case of Paul Quinn to sit still and stay mum.

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

If Gerry Adams said it was daytime I’d turn on my torch before heading out the door. He’s a ritualistic and compulsive lier. He lies about being a member of the IRA; he lies about knowing his brother was a child molester before sending him into ‘Mexican Exile’ so he could work with kids; he lies about knowing where the bodies were buried.

The fact of the matter is this lad felt he couldn’t go to the police with information on a murder and armed robbery without running it by some low level SF grunt. That grunt didn’t feel confident enough to say ‘Jesus, just go and tell them’. No, he had to approach the Ballymurphy Backroom team via El Presidente Adams. The wink and the nod to approach the police was given a few weeks later.

That part of the story has changed too...keep up to date here!
He went the Gardai first it seems...this guy who 'needed permission from SF' and was afraid of what would happen to him if he went to the Gardai.

Confused? Stay tuned.

Of course we will never find out what went on in the murky depths of the SF/IRA sludge pool during those weeks.

And once again it’s the fault of the Free State establishment media for lifting the slate and reporting on the various creepy crawlies and slugs who operate in ‘good republican’ circles up around the border.

The media who have had to change a salacious story twice now in a major way?

onh81 wrote: »

My point is blindingly obvious. You and every other critic of SF use Paul Quinn’s death as part of your agenda. You and I both know you don’t actually give a fúck

I have rasied Paul Quinn's death numerous times on these forums, oftentimes outside of elections at times like this.

It was a horrifying experience to listen to Breege Quinn and hear about what was done to her son, a human being, and then the way that denial and obfuscation and slander were used as tactics by Sinn Fein public representatives and social media trolls.

I can tell you that people like me certainly do give a ****.

JohnnyFlash

Truthvader wrote: »

Typical Sinn Fein inside out morality. There pals murder a boy but the only evil they can see is other people pointing it out. A sick society

As I said yesterday, there’s something vaguely fascist about it. An effort to slowly undermine the organs of this Republic, and what we should believe is acceptable.

JohnnyFlash

If Gerry Adams said it was daytime I’d turn on my torch before heading out the door. He’s a ritualistic and compulsive lier. He lies about being a member of the IRA; he lies about knowing his brother was a child molester before sending him into ‘Mexican Exile’ so he could work with kids; he lies about knowing where the bodies were buried.

The fact of the matter is this lad felt he couldn’t go to the police with information on a murder and armed robbery without running it by some low level SF grunt. That grunt didn’t feel confident enough to say ‘Jesus, just go and tell them’. No, he had to approach the Ballymurphy Backroom team via El Presidente Adams. The wink and the nod to approach the police was given a few weeks later.

Of course we will never find out what went on in the murky depths of the SF/IRA sludge pool during those weeks.

And once again it’s the fault of the Free State establishment media for lifting the slate and reporting on the various creepy crawlies and slugs who operate in ‘good republican’ circles up around the border.

jm08

blanch152 wrote: »

There it is again, the unsubstantiated slander of Paul Quinn, for which Mary-Lou, Conor Murphy, and others have had to apologise, is repeated by a Sinn Fein supporter/voter/acolyte/defender/member (delete as appropriate) on social media.

Exactly the type of behaviour that many of us abhor.

Did you see Bertie's half hearted apology? Why have the police not arrested anyone and put them before the courts?

Pintman Paddy Losty

McMurphy wrote: »

It does however say the following, not going to copy and paste the whole article, read back from this part, it's about Gerry Adams.

The Irish Times based it's whole story on a leaky guard, and published it without first checking with the party the story was about.

So we have only the guards version of events ref the witness being a member of the shinners, then that changed to "an associate".

Now a spokesperson for Adams is saying he passed all the information he had at the time to the Gardai, the Taoiseach and the justice minister at the time.

They say they weren't happy with how it was dealt with at the time - hence why they took it up with GSOC.

You certainly appear to be lacking that ability, as I said the Times have now revised their version of the story. (That's not a tweet on Twitter) stop embarrassing yourself.

Oh deary deary me. More lack of basic comprehension skills from Johnny Dogs. The GSOC complaint was in relation to the Garda Golden investigation, not the Garda Donohue one.

Truthvader

onh81 wrote: »

Well Paddy instead of using Paul Quinn’s death for your own Sinn Fein-bashing agenda why don’t you come up to Cullyhanna in a show of solidarity for the Quinn family, since this death 13 years ago is still clearly playing on your mind. Don’t worry, it seems to have deeply affected a lot of people like yourself, perhaps you could run a bus up, maybe contact your local FFG office, they also seemed quite concerned around the time of the elections (although I’m not sure they’re still as worried about it at this present moment in time)

You know people like you act like you have some sort of moral high ground, when in reality you use deaths like Paul Quinn’s in your anti-SF rants it’s utterly pathetic. If Quinn was alive now he’d probably be still driving about in lorries with laundered diesel in the back and people like you would be branding him a Republican criminal.

Typical Sinn Fein inside out morality. There pals murder a boy but the only evil they can see is other people pointing it out. A sick society

Shefwedfan wrote: »

How many of these stories have they had to deny so far this year?

The irony.

Getting a rival party to do the exact thing you have pointed to above is one of the oldest political tricks in the book practiced by those who control elements of and stooges in the media.

blanch152 wrote: »

Interesting analogy about "stopped beating your wife".

Isn't that just the praise you generally seek for Gerry Adams.

For 40 years the IRA went around killing, bombing and murdering, and when they stopped, you expect people to forget about those 40 years and praise them for being men of peace, just like the man who stops beating his wife and expects praise?

Wha?

blanch, I never 'sought praise for Gerry Adams' in my life.

I have said that I personally thank him and respect him for the road he has travelled as I respect Unionists and Loyalists who travelled similar roads.

It seems to stick in your throat that the electorate have done the same in respect of SF.

Nobody has 'forgotten' what happened and who did what...it's just that progressives do not select emotive victims in order to parade their 'high moral principles' which are really just talismans of their bias and begrudgery.

The way in which Paul Quinn and his family was used in the run up to the election (there is a list of other selective victims if you need it) is indicative of this and as another poster said, those responsible for that really need to 'take a long hard look at themselves'.

onh81 wrote: »

Well Paddy instead of using Paul Quinn’s death for your own Sinn Fein-bashing agenda why don’t you come up to Cullyhanna in a show of solidarity for the Quinn family, since this death 13 years ago is still clearly playing on your mind. Don’t worry, it seems to have deeply affected a lot of people like yourself, perhaps you could run a bus up, maybe contact your local FFG office, they also seemed quite concerned around the time of the elections (although I’m not sure they’re still as worried about it at this present moment in time)

You know people like you act like you have some sort of moral high ground, when in reality you use deaths like Paul Quinn’s in your anti-SF rants it’s utterly pathetic. If Quinn was alive now he’d probably be still driving about in lorries with laundered diesel in the back and people like you would be branding him a Republican criminal.

There it is again, the unsubstantiated slander of Paul Quinn, for which Mary-Lou, Conor Murphy, and others have had to apologise, is repeated by a Sinn Fein supporter/voter/acolyte/defender/member (delete as appropriate) on social media.

Exactly the type of behaviour that many of us abhor.

onh81 wrote: »

My point is blindingly obvious. You and every other critic of SF use Paul Quinn’s death as part of your agenda. You and I both know you don’t actually give a fúck

If SF stopped lying then it wouldn't be a point.

Personally I do give a f**k, if SF think it is ok to protect scumbag who go around killing people then everyone should give a f**k. Do you not think this type of person should be in jail?

jh79 wrote: »

It just says the witness wasn't a SF member it doesn't dispute the timeline of events given by Pat Leahy.

There is no record that Slab Murphy was a member of the party either.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I don't have an idea what your point is?

My point is blindingly obvious. You and every other critic of SF use Paul Quinn’s death as part of your agenda. You and I both know you don’t actually give a fúck

onh81 wrote: »

Do I aye? For the record I condemn the brutal murder of Paul Quinn, but I’m not going to let people of your ilk pretend you give a shít. If there was no suspicion on republicans you lot wouldn’t even know his name

I don't have an idea what your point is?

As I said at the time. It doesn't matter what FF/FG/Greens/Labour/etc do over the next few years. Sinn Fein will continue to remind us on a regular basis what a shower of scumbags they are. How many of these stories have they had to deny so far this year?

Next the finger will be pointed at Cowen. If Sinn Fein haven't the cop on a huge difference between murdering a Garda and then hiding details from the Garda to a person making a mistake, owning up to it, paying for it and moving on

Only SF wouldnt see the difference.......

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The 'have you stopped beating your wife' question.

I have no interest or see no value in hurting the parent of a dead child.
That doesn't alter what others have said about this case, which ia what I have quoted.

Interesting analogy about "stopped beating your wife".

Isn't that just the praise you generally seek for Gerry Adams.

For 40 years the IRA went around killing, bombing and murdering, and when they stopped, you expect people to forget about those 40 years and praise them for being men of peace, just like the man who stops beating his wife and expects praise?

Edgware

onh81 wrote: »

Do I aye? For the record I condemn the brutal murder of Paul Quinn, but I’m not going to let people of your ilk pretend you give a shít. If there was no suspicion on republicans you lot wouldn’t even know his name

Good that you use the lower case "r" for republicans.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sure who cares about a beating and murder of a man because it was 13 year ago. That is what you are saying?

Really you need to have a long hard look at yourself

Do I aye? For the record I condemn the brutal murder of Paul Quinn, but I’m not going to let people of your ilk pretend you give a shít. If there was no suspicion on Republicans you lot wouldn’t even know his name

onh81 wrote: »

Well Paddy instead of using Paul Quinn’s death for your own Sinn Fein-bashing agenda why don’t you come up to Cullyhanna in a show of solidarity for the Quinn family, since this death 13 years ago is still clearly playing on your mind. Don’t worry, it seems to have deeply affected a lot of people like yourself, perhaps you could run a bus up, maybe contact your local FFG office, they also seemed quite concerned around the time of the elections (although I’m not sure they’re still as worried about it at this present moment in time)

You know people like you act like you have some sort of moral high ground, when in reality you use deaths like Paul Quinn’s in your anti-SF rants it’s utterly pathetic. If Quinn was alive now he’d probably be still driving about in lorries with laundered diesel in the back and people like you would be branding him a Republican criminal.

Sure who cares about a beating and murder of a man because it was 13 year ago. That is what you are saying?

Really you need to have a long hard look at yourself

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Puts all the other stuff in context. SF elected reps having Christmas dinners with psychopathic murderers who oversee beating young men to death with a nail studded cudgel. Continuing to rain down thuds them after they have stopped begging for mercy. Spraying their limp body with bleach before shipping them to hospital across the border. Sick animals. That's the type of people SF consider "good republicans"

It's a sick party with moronic and morally bankrupt supporters.

Well Paddy instead of using Paul Quinn’s death for your own Sinn Fein-bashing agenda why don’t you come up to Cullyhanna in a show of solidarity for the Quinn family, since this death 13 years ago is still clearly playing on your mind. Don’t worry, it seems to have deeply affected a lot of people like yourself, perhaps you could run a bus up, maybe contact your local FFG office, they also seemed quite concerned around the time of the elections (although I’m not sure they’re still as worried about it at this present moment in time)

You know people like you act like you have some sort of moral high ground, when in reality you use deaths like Paul Quinn’s in your anti-SF rants it’s utterly pathetic. If Quinn was alive now he’d probably be still driving about in lorries with laundered diesel in the back and people like you would be branding him a Republican criminal.

So it looks like SF have sent down the memo

It was the Garda fault. First the man for getting shot and then secondly for thinking the public would help.

Still haven't seen any answer why it took SF weeks to inform the member of the public it was ok to talk to Garda?

Are we supposed to ignore that?

McMurphy

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So your comment is not they are not a SF person and they only thought they had to go to SF because why exactly?

Why did it take weeks for SF to approve?

Embarrasing, yes you are. Little keyboard warrior. Every post is aggressive....time you had a long look at yourself in the mirror, If you can't post in a normal manner put down the computer and go outside for once

You don't do irony do you?

I copied and pasted a relevant piece of text from the revised article by Pat Leahy, you replied with the lll thought out "a tweet on Twitter isn't the newspaper"

When I inform you that you put your foot in your mouth, and let you know that the post immediately before yours by Johnny Flash actually contains the link to the revised article I was discussing, you come back, copying the exact same piece of text i already quoted - claiming some people lack the ability to read.

Pointing out stupidity and clumsiness isn't "aggressive" - it's just pointing out the lack of self awareness contained in your posts.

Dig up.

grayzer75 wrote: »

The FFG fanboys will still try and twist it to suit their agenda and deflect away from the complete mess their bosses are making of the Covid crisis.

These boys just believe what they want.

McMurphy wrote: »

It does however say the following, not going to copy and paste the whole article, read back from this part, it's about Gerry Adams.

The Irish Times based it's whole story on a leaky guard, and published it without first checking with the party the story was about.

So we have only the guards version of events ref the witness being a member of the shinners, then that changed to "an associate".

Now a spokesperson for Adams is saying he passed all the information he had at the time to the Gardai, the Taoiseach and the justice minister at the time.

They say they weren't happy with how it was dealt with at the time - hence why they took it up with GSOC.

You certainly appear to be lacking that ability, as I said the Times have now revised their version of the story. (That's not a tweet on Twitter) stop embarrassing yourself.

Somebody makes a formal complaint about the Gardai's handling of a case and all of a sudden a story emerges - from a Garda - that casts the complainant in a bad light - a story so badly constructed two major details of it have had to be changed already because apparently they were not true.

Is this not a very familiar chain of events?

jh79 wrote: »

It just says the witness wasn't a SF member it doesn't dispute the timeline of events given by Pat Leahy.

Oh Pat Leahy said it so it must be true

McMurphy wrote: »

It does however say the following, not going to copy and paste the whole article, read back from this part, it's about Gerry Adams.

The Irish Times based it's whole story on a leaky guard, and published it without first checking with the party the story was about.

So we have only the guards version of events ref the witness being a member of the shinners, then that changed to "an associate".

Now a spokesperson for Adams is saying he passed all the information he had at the time to the Gardai, the Taoiseach and the justice minister at the time.

They say they weren't happy with how it was dealt with at the time - hence why they took it up with GSOC.

You certainly appear to be lacking that ability, as I said the Times have now revised their version of the story. (That's not a tweet on Twitter) stop embarrassing yourself.

So your comment is not they are not a SF person and they only thought they had to go to SF because why exactly?

Why did it take weeks for SF to approve?

Embarrasing, yes you are. Little keyboard warrior. Every post is aggressive....time you had a long look at yourself in the mirror, If you can't post in a normal manner put down the computer and go outside for once