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Sinn Fein Omerta

Pintman Paddy Losty

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/sinn-f%C3%A9in-witness-consulted-party-over-aaron-brady-case-before-speaking-to-garda%C3%AD-1.4332502

Very strange case here. A witness in a murder trial of a member of AGS refused to speak to police without first checking with the powers that be in Sinn Fein.

That's not normal behaviour for a political party. That's how criminal organisations like the Mafia operate.

Anyone else think this is disgraceful carry on?

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James Brown

Truthvader wrote: »

The difficulty is that for Sinn Fein IRA if they did have an interest in adding to their pain it wouldn't cost them a second thought. Quite happy with their 30 years of sub human savagery as long as they had an "interest" in it. Your fellow travellers are on here trying to re-run the "Paul Quinn was a criminal" lie - even though the official Sinn Fein position is to apologise for that lie. Still whatever works....

They might have heard it from the then Taoiseach Bertie Ahern.
No worries you can use him and his family in the next election.
Is it people saying he was a criminal or people like yourself bringing it up to use a murder victim and his family for party propaganda that's wrong?

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How many of those 'party's' were involved directly in a conflict/war in the last 50 years?

Not up to me to tell you anything...if a party has illegal millions or is involved in fraud then that is for those with the evidence to prosecute them.

So what would be the tipping point for you to not vote SF?

Would another murder by "Good Republicans" do it?

If Paul Murphy continues to associate with Paul Quinn's murderers and continues to grant them centre stage at SF functions?

I'd rather be poorer due to high rents and increased cost of living than live in a country where the government turns a blind eye to murder.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Pick any party and none of them have murderers within their ranks.

If fraud is the crime , tell us what happened to all the IRA millions, how Jock got all his holiday homes etc.

How many of those 'party's' were involved directly in a conflict/war in the last 50 years?

Not up to me to tell you anything...if a party has illegal millions or is involved in fraud then that is for those with the evidence to prosecute them.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If I were to select a party to vote for that had members who have never did something reprehensible or wrong...from violent conduct to fraud to doing something wrong that I don't agree with...I wouldn't have any party to vote for.

Simple as that jh79.

Who do you vote for/support and we'll have a look at their membership.

Pick any party and none of them have murderers within their ranks.

If fraud is the crime , tell us what happened to all the IRA millions, how Jock got all his holiday homes etc.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Yet you are willing to vote for a party that invites members of the gang that killed him to party functions.

If I were to select a party to vote for that had members who have never did something reprehensible or wrong...from violent conduct to fraud to doing something wrong that I don't agree with...I wouldn't have any party to vote for.

Simple as that jh79.

Who do you vote for/support and we'll have a look at their membership.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I'll repeat it was a sick and twisted murder and totally unjustified.

Yet you are willing to vote for a party that invites members of the gang that killed him to party functions.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Not really, anyone who follows elections closely knows that the electoral register in the South is a complete mess, with no control over eligibility. Anyone who answers the door to a Sinn Fein canvasser knows that a significant proportion of them are from outside the jurisdiction.

Claptrap. You come off like Trump. Got in but still claims it might be rigged a complete mess.
So FG the Greens might have done worse?

smurgen

Sums up the current diversion of attention.

https://twitter.com/MarkAgitprop/status/1295676334048452609?s=19

FrancieBrady

IAMAMORON wrote: »

What disturbs me most is that IRA supporters are more comfortable with blaming Fianna Fáil/Fine Gael with using the Quinn family as some sort of political propaganda ... as opposed to fessing up and admitting it was a chronic murder of an Irish civilian by and underground terrorist organisation?

It is the coldness of the denial and the shoulder shrugging that bugs me most. It's like it is okay for Irish nobodies to be tortured and buried and left for dead as long as we have our little movement?

I'll repeat it was a sick and twisted murder and totally unjustified.

IAMAMORON

What disturbs me most is that IRA supporters are more comfortable with blaming Fianna Fáil/Fine Gael with using the Quinn family as some sort of political propaganda ... as opposed to fessing up and admitting it was a chronic murder of an Irish civilian by and underground terrorist organisation?

It is the coldness of the denial and the shoulder shrugging that bugs me most. It's like it is okay for Irish nobodies to be tortured and buried and left for dead as long as we have our little movement?

Truthvader

onh81 wrote: »

Yeah, and I’m sure you care so dearly about a 21 year old killed 13 years ago.

Well probably enough to not want to be governed by the same people - or their apologists and supporters if nothing else

onh81

blanch152 wrote: »

It is a disgrace that posters are allowed repeat the smears and slurs about Paul Quinn when the party they profess to support has apologised for them.

It is disgusting and despicable, gutter-sniping of the worst kind.

Yeah, and I’m sure you care so dearly about a 21 year old killed 13 years ago.

grayzer75

jh79 wrote: »

And do you think it's appropriate for such a person to be friends with an MLA and attend SF functions?

Personally, no I don't.

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It's a weird question.

I'd have no interest in adding to their pain, if that is what is meant.[/QUOTE

The difficulty is that for Sinn Fein IRA if they did have an interest in adding to their pain it wouldn't cost them a second thought. Quite happy with their 30 years of sub human savagery as long as they had an "interest" in it. Your fellow travellers are on here trying to re-run the "Paul Quinn was a criminal" lie - even though the official Sinn Fein position is to apologise for that lie. Still whatever works....

McMurphy

Pkiernan wrote: »

I wonder if Francie Brady could sit down with Paul Quinn parents and repeat his posts to their faces.

What posts would you envisage might be hard to repeat to their faces might I ask?

I don't think copying and pasting, and linking to reports would be anything anyone wouldn't want to stand over?

The bigger question for me would be if any of the lads from FFG that unashamedly used his parents for political gains during the election, which ultimately failed anyway have been in touch with them since the election, and if not, would they be comfortable explaining why not, to their faces.

blanch152

Pkiernan wrote: »

I wonder if Francie Brady could sit down with Paul Quinn parents and repeat his posts to their faces.

Not a chance.

blanch152

Truthvader wrote: »

Well done.Even ressurecting the old Sinn Fein /IRA lie that Paul Quinn was a criminal (officially Sinn Fein apologise for this smear but ss evidenced here in reality they continue to peddle it) For those not on othet threads Francie knows well what the IMC , the Guards, the PSNI, and governments on both dides of the border have said about Paul Quinn as i posted links to all on other threads. So dont waste time; he will relentlessly promote the Sinn Fein IRA agenda (and to be fair I will relentlessly call them out as criminals chancers and fools

It is a disgrace that posters are allowed repeat the smears and slurs about Paul Quinn when the party they profess to support has apologised for them.

It is disgusting and despicable, gutter-sniping of the worst kind.

[Deleted User]

grayzer75 wrote: »

It belonged to the gang he was working for and they could well be Murphy's mates.

And do you think it's appropriate for such a person to be friends with an MLA and attend SF functions?

FrancieBrady

Patrick2010 wrote: »

That wasn't the question

It's a weird question.

I'd have no interest in adding to their pain, if that is what is meant.

Patrick2010

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What have I said about Paul Quinn that others haven't?

That wasn't the question

FrancieBrady

Pkiernan wrote: »

I wonder if Francie Brady could sit down with Paul Quinn parents and repeat his posts to their faces.

What have I said about Paul Quinn that others haven't?

Mad_maxx

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Paul Quinn was beaten to death because he got into a dispute with the son of a local ‘good republican’. A ‘good republican’ associated with Slab Murphy. Everyone knows the name of this fellow. A complete psychopath.

3 of the young lads who were involved in beating Quinn to death have subsequently committed suicide.

The silence in the community over this shows the stranglehold the hard men and good republicans have over the area.

" committed suicide "

Voluntarily one wonders?

gormdubhgorm

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/sinn-f%C3%A9in-witness-consulted-party-over-aaron-brady-case-before-speaking-to-garda%C3%AD-1.4332502

Very strange case here. A witness in a murder trial of a member of AGS refused to speak to police without first checking with the powers that be in Sinn Fein.

That's not normal behaviour for a political party. That's how criminal organisations like the Mafia operate.

Anyone else think this is disgraceful carry on?

SF are proud of this carry when comes down to it they view it as a continuation of 'the struggle'. Until they stop that sort of stuff middle ground will never vote for them in ROI and other parties will not go into government with them. Counter productive and shooting themselves in the foot imo.

Pkiernan

I wonder if Francie Brady could sit down with Paul Quinn parents and repeat his posts to their faces.

John Hutton

So it turns out that the guy in question was not even a member of SF

grayzer75

jh79 wrote: »

Who did the diesel belong to? Was it a friend of Paul Murphy MLA?

It belonged to the gang he was working for and they could well be Murphy's mates.

grayzer75

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Ya, a young lad having every bone in his body below his neck broken and having a spike driven through his face is just a common occurrence, and it’s the fault of the ‘establishment parties’ for making an issue of it. Better if they said nothing. He did lose a couple of thousand quids worth of laundered diesel.

Who said it was a common occurrence? Who said it was the fault of 'established parties'?

There was no mention of Paul Quinn from FFG six months before the election because they couldn't give a 5hite about the lad. They politicised his parents grief to suit their own agenda in the run up to an election and not because they care for the Quinn family. Since the election, how many FFG politicians have been calling for action on the Quinn case - none.

What happened to the young lad was absolutely disgusting and can't be justified by anybody. These gangs are all about money and control and nothing about republican or socialist values. They are crime gangs end of story.

[Deleted User]

grayzer75 wrote: »

It all started with him losing a load of diesel near Belfast and he certainly didn't deserve what happened to him but it suits the FFG narrative to tarnish the local community and the elected representatives within it. FFG didn't give too f**ks about Paul Quinn until the recent election and no doubt his ma will be rolled out at the next one.

Who did the diesel belong to? Was it a friend of Paul Murphy MLA?

FrancieBrady

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Ya, a young lad having every bone in his body below his neck broken and having a spike driven through his face is just a common occurrence, and it’s the fault of the ‘establishment parties’ for making an issue of it. Better if they said nothing. He did lose a couple of thousand quids worth of laundered diesel.

I suppose now you will say their is a humane way to kill someone?

It was a savage and abhorrent unjustified killing whatsoever was the reason. Any killing is.

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

Well done.Even ressurecting the old Sinn Fein /IRA lie that Paul Quinn was a criminal (officially Sinn Fein apologise for this smear but ss evidenced here in reality they continue to peddle it) For those not on othet threads Francie knows well what the IMC , the Guards, the PSNI, and governments on both dides of the border have said about Paul Quinn as i posted links to all on other threads. So dont waste time; he will relentlessly promote the Sinn Fein IRA agenda (and to be fair I will relentlessly call them out as criminals chancers and fools

Yes, I do know what the IMC said, I posted it above.