grayzer75 wrote: » It all started with him losing a load of diesel near Belfast and he certainly didn't deserve what happened to him but it suits the FFG narrative to tarnish the local community and the elected representatives within it. FFG didn't give too f**ks about Paul Quinn until the recent election and no doubt his ma will be rolled out at the next one.
onh81 wrote: » Posters like you are so detached from reality it’s fücking unreal. People from Republican areas still distrust police shocker. Why wouldn’t they? It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that maybe the individual didn’t feel comfortable going to the police? When the police choose to have a wee photo-shoot outside Crossmaglen barracks with their SMGs it very much undermines people’s faith in them. Of course don’t let that get in the way of your Shinner-bashing, continue to blissfully ignore why an ex investigating officer felt the need to divulge this information. Ignore the fact SF support policing North and South and the cherry on top, bring up Paul Quinn, someone who if still alive would no doubt be running about in the same crowd as Aaron Brady
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Paul Quinn was beaten to death because he got into a dispute with the son of a local ‘good republican’. A ‘good republican’ associated with Slab Murphy. Everyone knows the name of this fellow. A complete psychopath. 3 of the young lads who were involved in beating Quinn to death have subsequently committed suicide. The silence in the community over this shows the stranglehold the hard men and good republicans have over the area.
Truthvader wrote: » Just arrived here to find the same Sinn Fein /IRA crew frantically throwing out the usual vague hints of corruption at anyone who would question their right to murder. The only people who "dont trust the Guards" are criminals who quite rightly anticipate that the Guards might interfere with their career. Sinn Fein/IRA as an organisation steeped in crime and thuggery obviously "dont trust" the Guards. The sordid truth is that the witness was concerned that the murder might have been "authorised" or at least carried out by "good republicans" so he needed to check whether it was safe for him to assist the Guards. Because the murder of a Guard might just be "understandable" or "regrettable" . And you dont want to incur the anger of "the local community" and end up like Paul Quinn for getting it wrong
Patrick2010 wrote: » From the report... A number of people were involved in the incident although they did not all necessarily play a part in the actual killing. Amongst those involved were people who had in various ways been associated with the PIRA at a local level, including as members of the organisation. Some of these people were accustomed over a substantial period of time to exercising considerable local influence, collectively and individually. This would have led such people to expect what they would consider as appropriate respect from others and to being able to undertake their activities – including criminal ones – without interference; they would find it very difficult to accept any waning in this influence and respect;
rdwight wrote: » That'd be "Pat O'Connor, Pat O'Connor"
FrancieBrady wrote: » Anyone remember Haughey's election agent...caught redhanded and nicknamed 'John Connolly John Connolly' ever after by the wags of the day.
FrancieBrady wrote: » IMC reporthttp://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/18th%20REPORT%20FROM%20THE%20INDEPENDENT%20MONITORING%20COMMISSION%20(IMC).doc/Files/18th%20REPORT%20FROM%20THE%20INDEPENDENT%20MONITORING%20COMMISSION%20(IMC).doc
Niallof9 wrote: » you clearly haven't read it yourself
FrancieBrady wrote: » I think you need to read that article again.
McMurphy wrote: » I'll just leave this here.https://www.newstalk.com/news/john-perry-high-court-sligo-leitrim-selection-convention-ballot-625043
Patrick2010 wrote: » Link to anyone of the three saying that it was due to a criminal fallout and not a republican punishment beating that saw Paul Quinn having every bone in his body broken?
- We think that the attack on Paul Quinn was planned and carried out by local people and that it arose from local disputes. Whatever the immediate reason for the killing certain aspects of these disputes go back some time and were not unconnected with continuing illegal activity;
FrancieBrady wrote: » Apart from the completely unbacked up theory that the witness was doing the bolded bit, you have now come out with the bizarre accusation that the local community killed Paul Quinn in anger?The Gardai know who killed him, the PSNI know and the IMC and they all say and agree he was killed by criminal elements in an incident that had 'no little connection to criminality'.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Apart from the completely unbacked up theory that the witness was doing the bolded bit, you have now come out with the bizarre accusation that the local community killed Paul Quinn in anger? The Gardai know who killed him, the PSNI know and the IMC and they all say and agree he was killed by criminal elements in an incident that had 'no little connection to criminality'.
blanch152 wrote: » Not really, anyone who follows elections closely knows that the electoral register in the South is a complete mess, with no control over eligibility. Anyone who answers the door to a Sinn Fein canvasser knows that a significant proportion of them are from outside the jurisdiction.
Allinall wrote: » "Vote early and vote often" was the SF mantra to it's supporters.
rdwight wrote: » Potential witness doesn't feel confident (safe?) giving evidence without SF say-so. SF councillor doesn't feel confident giving say-so without reference to "head office" (West Belfast?) And in today's paper a SF TD is quoted as saying "it was his understanding members of Sinn Fein do not need with more senior members before providing information to Gardai". Presumably meaning he's not sure if that's the case.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f%C3%A9in-associate-spoke-to-gerry-adams-before-giving-evidence-in-brady-case-1.4333166 And Francie et al say there's nothing to see here?
Hodors Appletart wrote: » I mean this suggests that some of SF vote is manipulated or illegal - this is so off the wall to bring up.
Pkiernan wrote: » The North Korean leader enjoys huge voter support too!
smurgen wrote: » Normal people voted on mass for SF in the last election and will do so again.
