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This is interesting

https://www.rt.com/usa/498072-millie-weaver-documentary-arrest-shadowgate/

Infowars reporter Millie Weaver ‘arrested’ mid-premiere of her whistleblowing investigation into ‘shadow government’

Investigative reporter Millie Weaver and her husband have reportedly been arrested at the same time her documentary on the US “shadow government” was being screened on YouTube, sending Conservative Twitter into theory overdrive.
Weaver’s “arrest” at the couple’s home – which has yet to be confirmed by authorities – was initially reported by Infowars on Friday, shortly after the YouTube premiere of her documentary film “ShadowGate.” The film purports to expose the secrets of the massive ‘Deep State’ intelligence apparatus manipulating politics within the US and beyond its borders, based on the reports of two private intelligence whistleblowers.

Video of the couple’s apparent arrest, shot by Weaver herself, was posted to Twitter by her Infowars colleague Adan Salazar, opening on Weaver asking in disbelief if “a grand jury indicted [her].”

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[Deleted User]

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Watched 20 minutes of it. The production levels are high for a free released documentry. Most of the allegations make sense to me. I always suspected this myself, but this woman seems to have excellent sources backing her up?

Some of the allegations here would be upsetting to the deep state, because you're exposing how it all works. The two whistleblowers seem legit?

Unfortunately, she is a Trump supporter who exposing the real Russiagate nonsense. She's going to be attacked for exposing the deep state involvement in that hoax. Trump haters still believe happened, but anyone who done the research knows Seth Rich gave the DNC files to Wikileaks.

Yeah, I don't know if I'd say the two seem legit.. but there's obviously the manipulation of opinion going on on a large scale..

And shur, when you look at the likes of king mob, it's obviously working..

Dohnjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

I said I sent them nothing..

Ah sorry, I misread

Cheerful Spring2

Deleted User wrote: »

Watch the documentary..
It's ok..It's free on the internet..
A lot of it seems plausible..
It's interesting..same sort of craic Snowden was at..

Then we could maybe have an informed discussion on it..

Watched 20 minutes of it. The production levels are high for a free released documentry. Most of the allegations make sense to me. I always suspected this myself, but this woman seems to have excellent sources backing her up?

Some of the allegations here would be upsetting to the deep state, because you're exposing how it all works. The two whistleblowers seem legit?

Unfortunately, she is a Trump supporter who exposing the real Russiagate nonsense. She's going to be attacked for exposing the deep state involvement in that hoax. Trump haters still believe happened, but anyone who done the research knows Seth Rich gave the DNC files to Wikileaks.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

Can't be arsed..

Two legs good..

Lol.

You claimed you wanted a discussion, but again you are running away from points that are challenging to your views.

[Deleted User]

Can't be arsed..

Two legs good..

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

*their

Would you believe I haven't looked at her Twitter..

Yes I do given that you didn't read the op of the thread either.

Anyway.

Since we agree that it's not the government trying to cover up their documentary, what do you mean by "odd"?

Why do you think she (and other people) are claiming that it's a government conspiracy to cover up her documentary?
Do you think they're being honest there?

[Deleted User]

*their

Would you believe I haven't looked at her Twitter..

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

I haven't seen her claim it's a government conspiracy to cover up anything..I haven't seen her claim anything..but it appears she was arrested..

Lol.

Ok. So she and her twitter followers aren't claiming that her arrest was connected to there documentary?

Are we going to be saying she didn't even make a documentary next?

[Deleted User]

I haven't seen her claim it's a government conspiracy to cover up anything..I haven't seen her claim anything..but it appears she was arrested..

Ipso

the purple tin wrote: »

A sceptic keeps an open mind and gathers as much information as they can on a subject before making an informed decision (ie they watch the video).

King Mob is not a sceptic despite what they claim. They are a serial denier, nothing more.

Don't waste your time CQD: it's like talking to a brick wall.

A denier of what? Why would anyone waste time on someone from infowars? As Kingmob said she is invoking qanon which isnrd flag number 1. Number 2 is deep state, something that was made up at tHe start of the Trump presidency to take the fall for his dishonesty and bluster.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

So what, she held off on releasing the documentary until a day or two before she knew she would be arrested?..

So she could be internet famous?..

That's not what I said either.

You've ignored some of my questions.
Again, if you are interested in discussion, why are you doing that?

[Deleted User]

the purple tin wrote: »

A sceptic keeps an open mind and gathers as much information as they can on a subject before making an informed decision (ie they watch the video).

King Mob is not a sceptic despite what they claim. They are a serial denier, nothing more.

Don't waste your time CQD: it's like talking to a brick wall.

Again, weird personal attacks...

And no, there's no point in keeping an open mind on a Qanon documentary from Info Wars.
We're all past that now.
We all know that is just bull**** being sold to the gullible by con artists. No point in pretending otherwise.

[Deleted User]

the purple tin wrote: »

A sceptic keeps an open mind and gathers as much information as they can on a subject before making an informed decision (ie they watch the video).

King Mob is not a sceptic despite what they claim. They are a serial denier, nothing more.

Don't waste your time CQD: it's like talking to a brick wall.

Haha.. yeah, figured as much..

[Deleted User]

So what, she held off on releasing the documentary until a day or two before she knew she would be arrested?..

So she could be internet famous?..

the purple tin

Deleted User wrote: »

You're just the resident sceptic, are you?

A sceptic keeps an open mind and gathers as much information as they can on a subject before making an informed decision (ie they watch the video).

King Mob is not a sceptic despite what they claim. They are a serial denier, nothing more.

Don't waste your time CQD: it's like talking to a brick wall.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

I didn't claim the government was arresting people to cover up the documentary..I said the timing of her arrest was odd..

I can see how you feel I implied that, but I didn't say it..

Ok, so then since we agree that it's not the government trying to cover up their documentary, what do you mean by "odd"?

To me, if you're not stating that it's a government conspiracy, then "odd" is vague to the point of meaninglessness.

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you not implying it's a publicity stunt..

"

Nope. Never did. Never intended that. Not what I'm claiming or believe.

I think that this is a bull**** merchant who's taking the opportunity to milk her legal troubles to market her bull**** documentary to gullible people.
I don't believe she has faked any of her arrest, she's just taking advantage of the opportunity.
And people are falling for it, it seems.

So why do you think she is claiming that it's a government conspiracy to cover up her documentary?
Do you think she's being honest there?

[Deleted User]

King Mob wrote: »

You claimed that it was possible that this was a case of the government arresting people to cover up their documentary.
I pointed out why that doesn't make sense as arresting someone at the time they did would just draw unnecessary attention to the documentary rather than bury it.

No one's claiming it's a publicity stunt...

I didn't claim the government was arresting people to cover up the documentary..I said the timing of her arrest was odd..

I can see how you feel I implied that, but I didn't say it..

Are you not implying it's a publicity stunt..

Like, it appears she did get arrested on a sealed indictment..

"A sealed indictment bypasses a preliminary hearing and the charge is brought directly to a grand jury. The prosecution might use a sealed indictment in drug manufacturing and distribution cases. A sealed indictment is not accessible to the public and the names of any witnesses are kept secret until right before trial. This is utilized to protect the identities of confidential informants that will be witnesses at trial."

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

What do you want me to say about it?

I'd like you to answer the question directly. Not sure why that's difficult.

You claimed that it was possible that this was a case of the government arresting people to cover up their documentary.
I pointed out why that doesn't make sense as arresting someone at the time they did would just draw unnecessary attention to the documentary rather than bury it.
And you've agreed that this doesn't make sense and you can't provide any reason for them to do this.

So my question is: why did you claim that it was possible when it didn't make any sense to you?
Do you think it's still possible even though it doesn't make any sense?

Deleted User wrote: »

..I don't know like..she did get arrested.. maybe it was a publicity stunt.. maybe it wasn't.. I'll give you that..

No one's claiming it's a publicity stunt...

[Deleted User]

King Mob wrote: »

Well maybe we can keep discussing the point that's already on the table. You ignore this point from my last post:

You keep saying that you want a discussion, but then keep running away from points.
It's very odd.

What do you want me to say about it?..I don't know like..she did get arrested.. maybe it was a publicity stunt.. maybe it wasn't.. I'll give you that..

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

Watch the documentary..
It's ok..It's free on the internet..
A lot of it seems plausible..

It's interesting..same sort of craic Snowden was at..

But it's promoting Qanon bull**** and it's made by Info Wars.
It's not plausible or accurate.

Deleted User wrote: »

Then we could maybe have an informed discussion on it..

Well maybe we can keep discussing the point that's already on the table. You ignore this point from my last post:

So since we agree that this possibility is completely nonsensical, why do you think it's a valid explanation?

You keep saying that you want a discussion, but then keep running away from points.
It's very odd.

[Deleted User]

You're just the resident sceptic, are you?

[Deleted User]

Watch the documentary..
It's ok..It's free on the internet..
A lot of it seems plausible..
It's interesting..same sort of craic Snowden was at..

Then we could maybe have an informed discussion on it..

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you watched the documentary kingmob?..

No. Why would I?
As I said, it's promoting Qanon nonsense and it's from the bull**** peddlers at Info Wars and now it's relying on another bizarre conspiracy to cover it's creator as well as to promote itself.
It's very obviously not a good documentary.

Deleted User wrote: »

And that point you mention..how the h*ck am I supposed to know..

That's the point. You don't know. I don't know. No one knows. Because it doesn't make sense.

If there really was a government conspiracy to bury this documentary it makes no sense for them to do it in a way that gets it way more attention.

So since we agree that this possibility is completely nonsensical, why do you think it's a valid explanation?

[Deleted User]

Have you watched the documentary kingmob?..

And that point you mention..how the h*ck am I supposed to know..

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

It doesn't mention the deep state..it deals with specific companies and people...

But again, from the link in the first post:
https://www.rt.com/usa/498072-millie-weaver-documentary-arrest-shadowgate/

Weaver’s “arrest” at the couple’s home – which has yet to be confirmed by authorities – was initially reported by Infowars on Friday, shortly after the YouTube premiere of her documentary film “ShadowGate.” The film purports to expose the secrets of the massive ‘Deep State’ intelligence apparatus manipulating politics within the US and beyond its borders, based on the reports of two private intelligence whistleblowers.

Deleted User wrote: »

And the weird accusations are because I'm just here hoping to have a conversation about it, I don't even want to have the feckin conversation.. you seem quite adversarial..

Again, weird personal comment...

Anyway, if you want a conversation about it, maybe we can start with the point I raised a few posts ago.

If this really was a politically motivated arrest, why would they wait for the documentary to be finished and about to be released? This would just draw more attention to it and give it legitimacy and still result in it being released.

Seems like it would make more sense for them to nip her investigation in the bud before she found anything, never mind filmed it and released it.

If however you find I'm too adversarial I'm sure there's plenty of safe spaces like on info wars where you can discuss it without being challenged.

[Deleted User]

It doesn't mention the deep state..it deals with specific companies and people..

And the weird accusations are because I'm just here hoping to have a conversation about it, I don't even want to have the feckin conversation.. you seem quite adversarial..

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

"According to you guys?..".. what?.. The timing is suspect.. maybe it was a genius marketing stroke..

But it's not suspect. It doesn't make sense for it to be suspect.
I outlined why in the point you ignored.

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think it mentions the deep state either..

From the first post in the thread:

Weaver’s “arrest” at the couple’s home – which has yet to be confirmed by authorities – was initially reported by Infowars on Friday, shortly after the YouTube premiere of her documentary film “ShadowGate.” The film purports to expose the secrets of the massive ‘Deep State’ intelligence apparatus manipulating politics within the US and beyond its borders, based on the reports of two private intelligence whistleblowers.

It mentions the deepstate, a Qanon trope.
It connected to Infowars, a bull**** peddling website which promotes Qanon bull****.

The documentary can't be a good one because it's about fantasy, produced by known liars.

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't donate to stuff online, or buy documentaries..do you?

Nope. And I especially don't donate to obvious scams.

Deleted User wrote: »

..or is that just more bullying gaslighting talk?..

One of us seems a bit too emotionally involved in this..
And it's not me..

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, it's time for my super male vitality..

No sure why you're resorting to weird accusations and insults...

[Deleted User]

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's coherent but I'll simplify for you

You claimed to have sent this person money for court costs. Is this something you commonly do in these types of cases (indictment by secret jury is not uncommon in the US) or is there a particular reason why you are sending this person money?

The person that you've sent money to is an Infowars pundit. It's someone who sells fear/paranoid/false information for a living. Like Alex Jones. Worth nothing that it's interesting when these types of people get to court, they seem to suddenly become quite honest about how fake their info/beliefs are.

I said I sent them nothing..

[Deleted User]

King Mob wrote: »

Info wars is a site that peddles the Qanon stuff amoung the mountains of bull**** they sell.
"Deep state" is a common Qanon trope.
It seems to claim all the exact same stuff as Qanon.

It's the exact same thing even if they don't reference it directly.

I made a few other points in my post please go back and address them. Thanks.

"According to you guys?..".. what?.. The timing is suspect.. maybe it was a genius marketing stroke..

I don't think it mentions the deep state either..

I don't donate to stuff online, or buy documentaries..do you?..or is that just more bullying gaslighting talk?..

Yeah, the timing is suspect.. that was my feckin point..

One of us seems a bit too emotionally involved in this..
And it's not me..

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, it's time for my super male vitality..

Dohnjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

This is not coherent..

It's coherent but I'll simplify for you

You claimed to have sent this person money for court costs. Is this something you commonly do in these types of cases (indictment by secret jury is not uncommon in the US) or is there a particular reason why you are sending this person money?

The person that you've sent money to is an Infowars pundit. It's someone who sells fear/paranoid/false information for a living. Like Alex Jones. Worth nothing that it's interesting when these types of people get to court, they seem to suddenly become quite honest about how fake their info/beliefs are.