Deleted User wrote: » Such as? The problem with all these people who are supposedly "anti-fascist" is that they're very similar to fascists themselves. They're typically extremely intolerant of other peoples opinions, and are very hostile to those who don't stand completely with them. Now.. There is an Antifa thread already on boards. Perhaps run along there? Or stick to multiculturalism and migration issues, which this thread is about.
The problem with all these people who are supposedly "anti-fascist" is that they're very similar to fascists themselves. They're typically extremely intolerant of other peoples opinions, and are very hostile to those who don't stand completely with them.
Now.. There is an Antifa thread already on boards. Perhaps run along there? Or stick to multiculturalism and migration issues, which this thread is about.
Deleted User wrote: » Except... I've made no such distinction between asylum seekers and migrants.
Deleted User wrote: » There is a major difference between all other migration and asylum seekers.
Wibbs wrote: » And yet struggle to cogently explain these nebulous values? Seems like I was correct. And again for the cheap seats: Actual asylum seekers are tiny in number. Illegal and quasi legal economic migrants are higher in number by quite the degree. Scale makes a big difference. It's a lot easier to accommodate and assimilate (on both sides) 2000 people compared to 20, or 40000. Benefit. People who are genuinely in danger are helped. Benefit. The host nation gets a feel good factor. Benefit. Actual asylum seekers are more likely to be people who would have stayed in their homeland if it hadn't gone to hell and more likely to be more qualified. Benefit. Just in case sums aren't a strong point either, that's four benefits compared to illegal and legal loophole migrants we dealt with before the law was changed. I'll even add more: Actual asylum seekers are more likely to be welcomed by a host nation compared to illegal migrants. Benefit. Actual asylum seekers are less likely to window shop for an upgrade in nations than illegal migrants(QV the Viet Boat people who chose to come here when the place was one of the poorest in Europe). Benefit. Actual asylum seekers are less likely to be involved in criminality and even modern terrorism compared to illegal migrants. Benefit. Actual asylum seekers are less likely to be in need of social welfare safety nets over time compared to illegal migrants. Benefit. Actual asylum seekers are more likely to be in the tax net and other civil frameworks than illegal migrants. Benefit. Set against cheap labour, exoticism of food and customs, few "connections" between nations beyond remittances and vague references to different "values" that seem resistant to any sort of definition. There really doesn't seem to be a lot of arrows in the multiculturalist's quivers, as we've seen throughout this thread and others.
Kivaro wrote: » Ah, the auld white Irish privilege blame again. We should all hang our heads in shame for being born in our "safe"(?) white country. I'll tell you the actual privilege that many Irish have; it's the privilege of getting up early in the morning and and go to work in order to pay for the substantial numbers of non-EU economic migrants arriving at Dublin airport to avail of the our generous social welfare and free-housing-for-life system. I usually find that those who want to welcome with open arms those who want to migrate to Ireland from outside of the EU are either:Involved in the very lucrative asylum/migrant industry. Do not contribute to the exchequer in a meaningful manner in order to help pay for their utopian open border concept of accepting all who want to come.
iebamm2580 wrote: » The black girl i went to college with in cork who now works in the same industry didn't have any problems getting a job because she actually wanted a job and went and studied like i did.
Slowyourrole wrote: » Maybe you should change your password as somebody seems to be posting on your account. For someone who posts in such a condescending fashion, you really should take time to consider your answers more. What you've done there is post a big list of why asylum seekers are comparatively better than other immigrants but not how they benefit the host nation other than "feel good factor". What's the euro figure on that? How much does an Irish worker contribute to the lucrative asylum/migration industry out of their pay cheques on an annual basis? This is fantastic. Racism in Ireland doesn't exist because you went to college with a black girl who got a job. Sure what more evidence is needed? Take that Liberals!
MFPM wrote: » Who are 'they'?
biko wrote: » Why is this thread on multiculturalism suddenly about the antifa domestic terrorists?
Slowyourrole wrote: » For someone who posts in such a condescending fashion, you really should take time to consider your answers more. What you've done there is post a big list of why asylum seekers are comparatively better than other immigrants but not how they benefit the host nation other than "feel good factor".
Strumms wrote: » if you can rock up on these shores, with a watertight qualification to enable you to work in an industry that is needing people here. You are welcome. Come, enjoy, live, be happy, contribute your own share, pay your taxes and then yes the state will assist if you come upon difficult times.
Arthur Daley wrote: » And realistically, plainly speaking how many jobs are there in an industry that cannot get sufficient staff within the already massive european single market. You have to be looking at tiny numbers, and that is before: 1 Covid 19 2 Automation and AI
Strumms wrote: » Not too many right now... So we have to be realistic. That for many that arrive here, it’s not ‘asylum’ which is being sought, they are seeking to have the Irish taxpayer enable a ‘better’ standard of living, via free cash, free accommodation, free healthcare, all paid for by everyone from the Irish kids starting out at say 17 working a part time job, a man in his 50’s, young family, a young son with medical needs who simply cannot gain access to treatments because, there pot of money isn’t there to pay for it, but it’s there to feed, house, and ‘treat’ a person or family who arrive, fresh off a plane.
MFPM wrote: » So 'they' are a homogeneous grouping, all 'antifa' are the same? You don't see the problem with any of this nonsense?
Unless you're a mod, keep quiet. I'm posting here in response to posters making absurd claims about an organisation that doesn't exist.
Slowyourrole wrote: » Maybe you should change your password as somebody seems to be posting on your account.
iebamm2580 wrote: » Just point me to 1system i benefit from in IRELAND by being white. That will suffice.
Arthur Daley wrote: » That is being straight and honest with people. You won't get that from any of the politicians. Or the redundant media.
Tell me how wrote: » You probably haven't to experience this.https://twitter.com/adejokxe/status/1293609704434925574
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Click the video which leads to her profile. Lol
briany wrote: » I have walked down many Irish streets in broad daylight where you had people of different colours on them. Not once have I seen a white Irish person, apropos of nothing, start shouting the N-word at a black person. Therefore, I would say one lad does make a racist country. Additionally, we see another lad apparently sticking up for the girl. Going by her apparent sample size, you could use this second person as proof that Ireland is not a racist country. The fact that she started promoting her music and instagram right after this suggests to me, also, that she wasn't sitting at home after this incident going, "Oh my god, I can't believe this. Never before have I felt so unwelcome in my home country.:(", so much as she was going, "That's grand, now. Lots of likes for me.".
Beechwoodspark wrote: » There’s another one doing the rounds today Asian woman “lecturing” a group of teenagers about racism then one of them seems to push her into the royal canal The video is fairly short so it’s hard to know the full context of what actually happened
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Little scumbags pushed her into a canal. They should be flogged in public.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » She shouldn’t be giving lectures to them on the side of the canal - not excusing their behaviour but come on like
Thelonious Monk wrote: » She should. Irish kids get away with murder because we are afraid of them. Fair play to her.
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