2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

All this talk of Joe Biden not being mentally fit to be President , but a majority of Americans actually think that it's Trump that doesn't have the mental capacity to be President..

Ouch!!

The latest Fox News poll out today is filled to the brim with bad news for Trump.

Biden is more popular than Trump
Harris is more popular than Pence(and Trump)
ObamaCare is more Popular now then when Trump took Office
Biden is seen to be the better option on Immigration , Healthcare , Criminal Justice , China , Race Relations and also for nominating the next Supreme court justice.

And - 51% of Americans do not think that Donald Trump has the mental soundness to be President , with only 39% having a similar view of Joe Biden.

Ouch!

Hoop66 wrote: »

"I have no idea if that's right".

But I'm certainly going to mention it during a presidential press conference.

If you can defend this sort of behaviour there is something wrong with you.

well trump was an obama birther so it is no surprise that he is trying it again with Harris.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well trump was an obama birther so it is no surprise that he is trying it again with Harris.

Making sure that a candidate is a "Natural born Citizen" is absolutely fair and reasonable.

I mean that's why he made such a fuss about confirming that Ted Cruz , born in Canada with a Cuban father was eligible and demanded that he show all his documentation.......

extra gravy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

I laughed for a good 10 minutes.

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1293706343900221453

Cringeworthy stuff. I'd question the intelligence of anyone that finds that funny.

Carfacemandog

Deleted User wrote: »

Wasn't Trump buddies with Epstein?

Not just buddies, also co defendant in a child rape case from the 1990s.

Carfacemandog

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Making sure that a candidate is a "Natural born Citizen" is absolutely fair and reasonable.

I mean that's why he made such a fuss about confirming that Ted Cruz , born in Canada with a Cuban father was eligible and demanded that he show all his documentation.......

Yeah, but I mean, come on... He's white.

Chris_Heilong

Maybe now that Trump Brokers Peace Deal Between Israel and UAE he will win the Nobel Peace prize, He will deserve it a lot more than Obama did, remember Obama got the prize for just being black?

Wanderer78

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Maybe now that Trump Brokers Peace Deal Between Israel and UAE he will win the Nobel Peace prize, He will deserve it a lot more than Obama did, remember Obama got the prize for just being black?

hes doing a fine job of bringing peace to his own country!

Leroy42

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Maybe now that Trump Brokers Peace Deal Between Israel and UAE he will win the Nobel Peace prize, He will deserve it a lot more than Obama did, remember Obama got the prize for just being black?

John Hume also got it, do you think Trump deserves it as much as John Hume did?

Why all this comparison with Obama? According to Trump and his supporters, Obama was one of the worst and most corrupt POTUS ever, so why anyone would compare Trump to him as if that is any level to judge him on is weird.

ancapailldorcha

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Maybe now that Trump Brokers Peace Deal Between Israel and UAE he will win the Nobel Peace prize, He will deserve it a lot more than Obama did, remember Obama got the prize for just being black?

Do you have a source for that?

Chris_Heilong

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Do you have a source for that?

I am not surprised you have not heard it given it is something positive involving Trump.
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/trump-brokers-deal-between-uae-and-israel-claims-foreign-policy-win/article32351109.ece

The Unbearables

Leroy42 wrote: »

John Hume also got it, do you think Trump deserves it as much as John Hume did?

Why all this comparison with Obama? According to Trump and his supporters, Obama was one of the worst and most corrupt POTUS ever, so why anyone would compare Trump to him as if that is any level to judge him on is weird.

Obama is/was a saint for many. Truth is he was an evil yoke of a man who got away with plenty because of his smooth talking and as mentioned above because of his skin colour.

Before Trump got elected liberals told us all sorts of rubbish about Trump starting WW3 and other deranged sh1t. This despite anyone who knew anything about Trump saying he hated violence and always looked to make deals, the pen is mightier than the sword.

Now the same yokes suffering from TDS can't even give the man credit when it's due.

ancapailldorcha

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

I am not surprised you have not heard it given it is something positive involving Trump.
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/trump-brokers-deal-between-uae-and-israel-claims-foreign-policy-win/article32351109.ece

I meant Obama getting a nobel prize for being black.

Leroy42

I think those warning about the dangers of Trump have been proved to be mainly right.

He has made a complete disaster of the Covid emergency.
He has sold out to Russia, going so far as being scared to even bring up US troops being directly targeted by Putin
He is actively seeking to destroy the democratic system within the US.
He is torn down the media, leading to many people ignoring stories no matter how much evidence they contain.
He has led a continued turn away from science and facts

We don't really know what Trump is up to in terms of foreign wars. He has stopped the reporting of Drone strikes, so it is not too much a leap to think that things are going on that we don't know about.

The fact that they got the details of the forecast wrong, does not mean that overall their warnings were not correct. Trump is a clear and present danger to the US. There is no doubt about it.

Chris_Heilong

Wanderer78 wrote: »

hes doing a fine job of bringing peace to his own country!

Unfortunately in the democrat controlled cities where these riots are happening those in charge have told Trump they do not want help and many still say the rioters are just peaceful protesters, allowing this to go on for far too long.

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Unfortunately the democrat controlled cities where these riots are happening those in charge have told Trump they do not want help and many still say the rioters are just peaceful protesters.

the violence subsided as soon as trumps stormtroopers were told to leave.

relax carry on

@The Unbearables. Just in case you missed my post last night, any chance of a comment as to why to you find the unsubstantiated ramblings of Trump, a noted birther, in relation to Harris as "interesting"?

The Unbearables wrote: »

Who supported or defended it?

I said it was interesting

Ok, I'll bite. In what way is it "interesting" to you as a Trump supporter?

baaba maal

The Unbearables wrote: »

Obama is/was a saint for many. Truth is he was an evil yoke of a man who got away with plenty because of his smooth talking and as mentioned above because of his skin colour.

Before Trump got elected liberals told us all sorts of rubbish about Trump starting WW3 and other deranged sh1t. This despite anyone who knew anything about Trump saying he hated violence and always looked to make deals, the pen is mightier than the sword.

Now the same yokes suffering from TDS can't even give the man credit when it's due.

My recollection is that before the election "liberals" (and many centrists) expressed the fear that Trump wasn't a suitable candidate for many reasons (lack of political experience, temperament, repeated failure at businesses etc.) but the threat of WW3 wasn't a major fear expressed at the time.

That all started iirc when he started calling the completely unstable leader of North Korea names in advance of the wonderful peace agreement that he (Trump) failed to negotiate with him. But of course, he was playing 4D chess along with that issue wasn't he?

I am absolutely no fan of Obama (a corporatist tool in my opinion) but to call him "evil" as a comparison to the self-serving, mean-spirited and stupid person that Trump is, is ridiculous.

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Maybe now that Trump Brokers Peace Deal Between Israel and UAE he will win the Nobel Peace prize, He will deserve it a lot more than Obama did, remember Obama got the prize for just being black?

Was anyone aware that they were at war?

What "Peace" did he negotiate?

How will Bidens muzzles for all go down with voters, he's coming across as a scared old man.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How will Bidens muzzles for all go down with voters, he's coming across as a scared old man.

by muzzles i presume you mean the masks that will help put an end to a pandemic that killed 1500 people yesterday?

1800_Ladladlad

Here we have Zappone, the head the ball, showing her cloying adulation for Biden and ilk. Apparently, she became an Irish citizen in 1995, So why does she say she's "so proud to be an American"? I remember when many people in Ireland were branded "racist" for calling her a yank! And yet here we have it !! Her Irish citizenship was more of a means to an end than it is a marker of one's identity. A travel document really.

Some people have short memories

https://twitter.com/k_zappone/status/1293354661681012737

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Here we have Zappone, the head the ball, showing her cloying adulation for Biden and ilk. Apparently, she became an Irish citizen in 1995, So why does she say she's "so proud to be an American"? I remember when many people in Ireland were branded "racist" for calling her a yank! And yet here we have it !! Her Irish citizenship was more of a means to an end than it is a marker of one's identity. A travel document really.

Some people have short memories

https://twitter.com/k_zappone/status/1293354661681012737

she is a dual citizen, born in the US. is she not allowed to be proud of her native country? an unsurprisingly stupid post.

ollkiller

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Here we have Zappone, the head the ball, showing her cloying adulation for Biden and ilk. Apparently, she became an Irish citizen in 1995, So why does she say she's "so proud to be an American"? I remember when many people in Ireland were branded "racist" for calling her a yank! And yet here we have it !! Her Irish citizenship was more of a means to an end than it is a marker of one's identity. A travel document really.

Some people have short memories

https://twitter.com/k_zappone/status/1293354661681012737

Let us know if that barrel has anything left to scrape out of the bottom of it.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

by muzzles i presume you mean the masks that will help put an end to a pandemic that killed 1500 people yesterday?

That's an untested in the real world theory, there is 0 evidence to back up such a claim in a real world setting. Antidotal evidence is showing them to have the opposite effect. Large scale testing happening at the moment, results should be out soon.
Don't point me to a labatory test to back up your assumption.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How will Bidens muzzles for all go down with voters, he's coming across as a scared old man.

According to Fox News - Really really well.

Q:- Do you favour requiring everyone to wear a face mask outside of their home?

Response - 74% YES , 21% NO

Q - Do you have a favourable or unfavourable view of people who wear masks?

Response - 80% Favourable , 13% Unfavourable

For "Require everyone to wear a mask" question , here's the demographic breakdown for support

Men - 72%
Women -75%
White - 72%
Black- 80%
Hispanic - 74%

Under 45 - 70%
Over 45 - 77%
Over 65 - 80%

Democrat - 90%
GOP - 58%
Independent - 67%

White Evangelical - 66%
Suburbanite - 77%
Urban - 83%
Rural - 64%

Biden Supporters - 90%
Trump Supporters - 54%

Seems to me like one candidate has a firm sense of what the people want on this matter , the other hasn't got a clue.

Which one is which do you think???

[Deleted User]

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That's an untested in the real world theory, there is 0 evidence to back up such a claim in a real world setting. Antidotal evidence is showing them to have the opposite effect. Large scale testing happening at the moment, results should be out soon.
Don't point me to a labatory test to back up your assumption.

There's actually considerable research done on that at this stage. They're found to be highly effective in terms of reducing transmission. You might feel better in the conspiracies forum.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That's an untested in the real world theory, there is 0 evidence to back up such a claim in a real world setting. Antidotal evidence is showing them to have the opposite effect. Large scale testing happening at the moment, results should be out soon.
Don't point me to a labatory test to back up your assumption.

what do you mean by the opposite effect and what antidotal(sic) evidence have you seen?

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

No evidence that wearing masks will help stop a virus that's spread by droplets from coughing/sneezing?

Show me any real world evidence, there is none. It's coming soon.