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Aaron Brady Guilty as charged

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Aaron Brady has been found guilty of the capital murder of Det Garda Adrian Donohoe in Louth in 2013.

On Monday, Brady, of New Road, Crossmaglen, Co Armagh, was found guilty of robbing approximately €7,000 in cash and cheques outside the Lordship Credit Union in January 2013.

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Spanish Eyes

TBH if there was a smack of dissidents involved in this, I think the trial would hae been held in the SCC where there is no jury.

The fact that it was conducted in the Central Criminal Court says to me that the defendant was not associated and the jury would not be intimidated.

But then BAM, we hear of witness intimidation. Guts required dealing with these people all the same.

Fair play to the jury. IMO they should be in another room, anonymous and see the trial over CCTV. Maybe that happened here due to Covid who knows.

Jury were brave. And gave the correct verdict.

Spanish Eyes

PCeeeee wrote: »

It will (imo) be appealed over the one that was giving evidence from the US and was interrupted by someone. And possibly the disallowed stuff regarding the alleged behaviour of the US law enforcement

Did you follow the trial for over 100 days straight? I didn't, but I respect the jury verdict.

This will go nowhere. And most people know it.

Apart from the appeal lawyers who are rubbing their hands together now.

John_Rambo

Prime Time doc was good & very sad.

I'd love to know what happened to Aaron Brady for him to arrive at being a killer. A Garda killer at that. I find it a bid strange, being from Dublin anyone I knew that turned out a criminal were usually from a pretty deprived background. Bad parenting, unemployment, drugs and poverty would have had a big impact on the choice of 'career'. But Brady seems to be from a pretty average background.

How does someone like that begin to joyride stolen cars in small rural towns (and properly joyride, ramming other cars and causing mayhem) and manage to have four like minded friends that would be willing to carry out an armed robbery?

[Deleted User]

MrSanchez wrote: »

I think we can safely read between the lines and the reality that diesel laundering around the border is the remit of certain groups

Very strange the media never mentioned or named him as being g a republican or with links to the provos or dissidents If thats the case, if he is linked to them will he be sent to a republican landing in portlaoise yeah? His dad being the chairman of Crossmaglen certainly doesn’t look good from the outside either

Ah I see, your gonna just play dumb and pretend that it's not.

Papers do need a certain level of proof, they can be sued ya know. It's pretty obvious from the article that they are saying much

PCeeeee

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The evidence cannot be appealed though, so the reality is that to has to be on a point of law or incorrect direction to the jury etc..

It will (imo) be appealed over the one that was giving evidence from the US and was interrupted by someone. And possibly the disallowed stuff regarding the alleged behaviour of the US law enforcement

Spanish Eyes

Garda Donohoe is never coming back is he? and his family will suffer his loss forever.

Good to see the jury were not intimidated and gave the correct verdict. I am so proud of them and will not question their deliberations.

Those who do might have issues/connections/etc.

But no one cares about that, least of all the judicial system. Get over it.

MrSanchez

I think we can safely read between the lines and the reality that diesel laundering around the border is the remit of certain groups[/quote]

Very strange the media never mentioned or named him as being g a republican or with links to the provos or dissidents If thats the case, if he is linked to them will he be sent to a republican landing in portlaoise yeah? His dad being the chairman of Crossmaglen certainly doesn’t look good from the outside either

Edgware

Even if he wasn't convicted of the murder he deserves ten years for being guilty of stupidity.
A low life who wanted to be Mr Big.
He wouldn't last six months in any of the Dublin gangs

amadangomor

Charles Babbage wrote: »

This is not reasonable, you had the same crap stated about Mickey Harte.

If someone asks me for a reference then I provide a factual reference stating the things that I know about, that is my duty to the court. It is not my duty to alter the facts of different events because I think you did a bad thing, quite the opposite. Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and let the court decide.

Nah, If you think someone is a scumbag you don't provide anything in this situation.

He obviously wasn't someone who just stole crisps from the local shop when he was 12 and is something that should be forgotten.

He was a dirty scumbag that shouldn't be given a reference by anyone of standing.

Gregor Samsa

deisedevil wrote: »

He can appeal it. The evidence used to convict him is incredibly weak and now theres rumours of witnesses being coerced into giving statements.

Complaining about the evidence isn’t grounds for appeal - unless you have new evidence that calls some of the original evidence into question. The issue about the Homeland Security Agent and the statement was already brought up in the trial, so again can’t be grounds for appeal.

An appeal has to be based on new evidence or a legal error in the trial. You can’t just say that the jury shouldn’t have made the decision they did based on the evidence they heard, so let’s have another go. If the evidence was weak, the trial was the time to convince the jury of that.

Spanish Eyes

deisedevil wrote: »

He can appeal it. The evidence used to convict him is incredibly weak and now theres rumours of witnesses being coerced into giving statements.

I really hope they have the right scumbag behind bars for it and I hope if they do he doesn't manage to get it overturned on an appeal.

The evidence cannot be appealed though, so the reality is that to has to be on a point of law or incorrect direction to the jury etc..

deisedevil

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Nothing will change the verdict so what are people worried about.

He can appeal it. The evidence used to convict him is incredibly weak and now theres rumours of witnesses being coerced into giving statements.

I really hope they have the right scumbag behind bars for it and I hope if they do he doesn't manage to get it overturned on an appeal.

PCeeeee

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Nothing will change the verdict so what are people worried about.

I'm worried about the appeal.

I applaud tbe verdict

timthumbni

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Didn’t seem to be any suggestion he was a dissident on Prime Time, more that there is a young generation of lawless scumbags around south Armagh.

Lawless? South Armagh? Next thing they will be saying that there is an issue with joyriding in republican west Belfast. Crazy times.

timthumbni

Charles Babbage wrote: »

This is not reasonable, you had the same crap stated about Mickey Harte.

If someone asks me for a reference then I provide a factual reference stating the things that I know about, that is my duty to the court. It is not my duty to alter the facts of different events because I think you did a bad thing, quite the opposite. Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and let the court decide.

Really? You don’t have any duty to give a reference in the first place. It seems really strange that the reference would include how good a Gaa player they were. What relevance has that got to do with anything when up for a charge of car theft, violence, murder or rape for example? I’m not just referring to this case btw.

I know if I was asked to provide a character reference for someone charged and quite obviously guilty of a serious criminal offence I would decline to say well imo he was a lovely lad, great at the gaa, and very good at crosswords.

[Deleted User]

Didn’t seem to be any suggestion he was a dissident on Prime Time, more that there is a young generation of lawless scumbags around south Armagh.

whiskeyman

Nothing really much new from Prime Time.
Thought it would have reviewed more of the evidence.

It did mention a fair bit about the other gang members though. Will be interesting to see when a move will be made to bring them in, if the evidence is there.

Spanish Eyes

Nothing will change the verdict so what are people worried about.

Charles Babbage

pgj2015 wrote: »

it doesn't look great that a former coach from Crossmaglen Rangers spoke up for him in court in 2017, im sure it was well known in the area that he was the suspect in the cold blooded killing of a guard. imagine putting in a good word for a piece of dirt like that.

This is not reasonable, you had the same crap stated about Mickey Harte.

If someone asks me for a reference then I provide a factual reference stating the things that I know about, that is my duty to the court. It is not my duty to alter the facts of different events because I think you did a bad thing, quite the opposite. Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and let the court decide.

nuac

Any comments here on the reports of witness intimidation?

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Spanish Eyes

It is over now. No amount of rants or whatever will change the verdict.

It was a great thing that this piece of scumbaggery was convicted. Thankfully. And hopefully his cohorts will be found eventually.

Great day for this country and justice for the murder of a Garda aswell. May Garda Donohue rest in peace now.

Sam Hain

ChikiChiki wrote: »

There's a normal U21 club team then there is the Crossmaglen machine.

I'd wager its pretty hard.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Jizique

ChikiChiki wrote: »

There's a normal U21 club team then there is the Crossmaglen machine.

I'd wager its pretty hard.

Not when the auld fella is chairman

ChikiChiki

pgj2015 wrote: »

and as if its that hard to get on an u 21 club team.

There's a normal U21 club team then there is the Crossmaglen machine.

I'd wager its pretty hard.

pgj2015

Jizique wrote: »

Prodigious? He couldn’t even make the local club team

and as if its that hard to get on an u 21 club team.

Jizique

timthumbni wrote: »

I see the bit where they said he was a prodigious gAA player. What is the name of Sam maguire has that got to do with anything? The reference also said he was “reliable and trustworthy” though so I would take that whole glowing report with a large dose of salt. Is it supposed to try and sway favour with a GAA loving judge?

Prodigious? He couldn’t even make the local club team

Sam Hain

neutral guy wrote: »

If he could work for minimum wage 40 years he could have a lot more than he took that day.
5 guys involved took 7K in cash what is less than mnimum wage incomes per month.
He probably spent more for travel to USA than he took that day.
The most common problem that those guys has serious problems with maths.

What a mental way to look at it and then to articulate it so poorly.

Edgware

MrSanchez wrote: »

Sorry not sure if I missed it but is there anything linking that scumbag Brady to the ira or Sinn Fein? Like any online posts or articles, I can’t find any atm

If there was any hint of a subversive link he would have been sent to the Special Criminal Court for trial.
Now that all the evidence of witness intimidation has come out his accomplices may not get the benefit of a jury trial though. The Special Criminal Court can used if the D.P.P. thinks the ordinary courts aren't suitable

neutral guy

If he could work for minimum wage 40 years he could have a lot more than he took that day.
5 guys involved took 7K in cash what is less than mnimum wage incomes per month.
He probably spent more for travel to USA than he took that day.
The most common problem that those guys has serious problems with maths.

pgj2015

it doesn't look great that a former coach from Crossmaglen Rangers spoke up for him in court in 2017, im sure it was well known in the area that he was the suspect in the cold blooded killing of a guard. imagine putting in a good word for a piece of dirt like that.