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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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bingo9999

ofcork wrote: »

I see the brother of one of the sullivans behind the docklands tower in court in the us on fraud charges.

Oh sheet

Curb Your Enthusiasm

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40030154.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Cork City Council have used awful bare concrete outside the courthouse to replace the footpath after damage from illegally parked vehicles.

6k in costs....

ScrubsfanChris

View from the top(floor) Penrose

chalkitdown1

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40030154.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Cork City Council have used awful bare concrete outside the courthouse to replace the footpath after damage from illegally parked vehicles.

6k in costs....

Basically an acceptance from the council that they're gonna continue to allow people to park on the path there. See also; the repaving of the footpath where the tree was knocked on Grand Parade. They'd rather let the cars do as they please rather than maintain and enforce what's already there. The easy way out.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Basically an acceptance from the council that they're gonna continue to allow people to park on the path there. See also; the repaving of the footpath where the tree was knocked on Grand Parade. They'd rather let the cars do as they please rather than maintain and enforce what's already there. The easy way out.

Well that didn't take long.

https://twitter.com/kissanej/status/1292924100499984384?s=19

marno21

Construction has commenced on Block 3 of the Lyonshall O’Riordans Joinery student accommodation development on the Bandon Road. This block is unaffected by the recent fresh planning application to increase the number of beds in the development. This block is the furthest from the Bandon Road itself.

First crane went up today

https://twitter.com/corkcranecount/status/1293289230102396929

www.bandonroadshd.ie

opus

Gardner wrote: »

huge problems ongoing within Keatings. Haven't paid Subbies in a while. if rumours are true they are going out of business soon.

Timeline for Shakey Bridge reopening unknown

ScrubsfanChris

Penrose Aerial: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jcd-group_penrosedock-nearlythere-anewkindofworkday-activity-6699620910774779904-kbMP

Was originally longer but was asked to make this abridged version:

fonecrusher1

Looks class.

opus

Noticed the planning notice for the long derelict looking Linehan's building on Adelaide St to be converted to apartments.

marno21

View from the top of the new crane erected on the Bandon Road

https://twitter.com/corkcranecount/status/1295045606285737987

rino87

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Lidl-planning-to-open-new-Cork-store-35c9a724-5533-48be-83b4-448b49df7a58-ds

Lidl for Blarney, as part of a "wider development". Very scant on details, or even say where it is to be exactly...

Oafley Jones

RINO87 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Lidl-planning-to-open-new-Cork-store-35c9a724-5533-48be-83b4-448b49df7a58-ds

Lidl for Blarney, as part of a "wider development". Very scant on details, or even say where it is to be exactly...

Could never understand why Blarney has such poor grocery shopping options. I know SuperValu Tower is close (and recently expanded), but still even with objections etc., how nothing has gone in there is a mystery to me.

rino87

I dunno, its not like Lidl Churchfields or Blackpool are a million miles away.

rounders

The site in question is more than likely the old blarney park hotel site. Its the only place for a scheme that looks quiet big by the generated imagine.

There was previously an application for a "discount retailer" there but it was withdrawn. Supervalu/centra (same owner in blarney and tower) from what I hear, as expected, lobbied very hard against it. Also the Castle was against it due to the impact on the castle views but they reject most things for the village.

Hence why they a making a effort with garden roof etc

thejuggler

rounders wrote: »

The site in question is more than likely the old blarney park hotel site. Its the only place for a scheme that looks quiet big by the generated imagine.

There was previously an application for a "discount retailer" there but it was withdrawn. Supervalu/centra (same owner in blarney and tower) from what I hear, as expected, lobbied very hard against it. Also the Castle was against it due to the impact on the castle views but they reject most things for the village.

Hence why they a making a effort with garden roof etc

Agreed they have been trying to get permission on that site for a decade. The local SuperValu owner and the castle owner are ‘well connected’ and appear to have the ability to block all developments which don’t suit them. Blarney is stuck in a time warp as a result.

leahyl

thejuggler wrote: »

Agreed they have been trying to get permission on that site for a decade. The local SuperValu owner and the castle owner are ‘well connected’ and appear to have the ability to block all developments which don’t suit them. Blarney is stuck in a time warp as a result.

Ridiculous carry on - they know they’ll miss out big time if Aldi/Lidl open up there - they shouldn’t be allowed to object on those grounds tbh - “I have a business and I don’t want any other supermarket in the town only my own”

rino87

leahyl wrote: »

Ridiculous carry on - they know they’ll miss out big time if Aldi/Lidl open up there - they shouldn’t be allowed to object on those grounds tbh - “I have a business and I don’t want any other supermarket in the town only my own”

I agree that they shouldn't be allowed object on those grounds as its a nonsense. Will they really lose out much in reality? - like I said earlier Aldi in Blackpool and Lidl up in churchfields are literally 5-10 minutes away.

If you live close to the area and would do a shop in lidl/aldi then you are going to them already - If you need to run in for something you will go into the Centra in the Village (not the filling station one, unless you like an empty pocket - their prices are extortionate)

If you want branded goods/fresh food you will go to Supervalu tower anyway too, if thats your thing. I dont see a lidl in the village changing this.

We only have a single image to go on, unless anyone has seen the planning?? In the image there does appear to be housing included. Surely this can only benefit the businesses in the village.

rounders

RINO87 wrote: »

I agree that they shouldn't be allowed object on those grounds as its a nonsense. Will they really lose out much in reality? - like I said earlier Aldi in Blackpool and Lidl up in churchfields are literally 5-10 minutes away.

If you live close to the area and would do a shop in lidl/aldi then you are going to them already - If you need to run in for something you will go into the Centra in the Village (not the filling station one, unless you like an empty pocket - their prices are extortionate)

If you want branded goods/fresh food you will go to Supervalu tower anyway too, if thats your thing. I dont see a lidl in the village changing this.

We only have a single image to go on, unless anyone has seen the planning?? In the image there does appear to be housing included. Surely this can only benefit the businesses in the village.

Had a look yesterday and there was only the withdrawn application

namloc1980

Skibbereen has been destroyed this evening with floods despite the OPW flood works. A warning for the city. The OPW should not be allowed anywhere near flood defences.

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ScrubsfanChris

Full size: https://i.imgur.com/5qJt167.jpg

who_me

I'd be interested in hearing more about the 'this area' bit. See this video video (sorry, can never get Twitter embedding to work!)

This is the junction of the street above, and 'The Cutting', an artificial gorge cut for a railway line. It looks like perhaps runoff from the hill is flowing down into that gorge and along its length, and from there around the corner and down into Bridge St. (the area shown in the TD's photo above).

I don't know the flood defences very well, though it seemed to me the focus was on stopping the river overtopping its banks, not on runoff from higher areas. I 100% can't say if it's the case here, but perhaps it's possible that if water can get in by other means, the flood defences might exacerbate things by containing the flood in the town.

I'd like to hear more about what happened!

opus

The hotel on MacCurtain St flew up, looks like prefab is the way to go.

Mefistofelino

who_me wrote: »

I'd be interested in hearing more about the 'this area' bit. See this video video (sorry, can never get Twitter embedding to work!)

This is the junction of the street above, and 'The Cutting', an artificial gorge cut for a railway line. It looks like perhaps runoff from the hill is flowing down into that gorge and along its length, and from there around the corner and down into Bridge St. (the area shown in the TD's photo above).

I don't know the flood defences very well, though it seemed to me the focus was on stopping the river overtopping its banks, not on runoff from higher areas. I 100% can't say if it's the case here, but perhaps it's possible that if water can get in by other means, the flood defences might exacerbate things by containing the flood in the town.

I'd like to hear more about what happened!

Pretty much as you thought https://www.corkcoco.ie/en/news/statement-cork-county-council-skibbereen-flooding

chalkitdown1

opus wrote: »

The hotel on MacCurtain St flew up, looks like prefab is the way to go.

It flew down as well when they were illegally demolishing the previous building. :pac:

ofcork

Is the redbrick on penrose quay development still in the planning?

Apogee

ofcork wrote: »

Is the redbrick on penrose quay development still in the planning?

Appealed to ABP
https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Appeal-lodged-with-An-Bord-Pleanala-against-Penrose-Quay-development-ae6b1308-61dc-4bed-a1b5-17a646d0f702-ds

ScrubsfanChris

Penrose Two - 6th Floor

Full Size: https://i.imgur.com/IfLdbPr.jpg

namloc1980

Flooding in Bandon overnight. A second reminder in a week of what the OPWs "flood relief" works actually deliver.

SleetAndSnow

Looks like the underground pumps didn't kick in for whatever reason. Residents must be fuming after years of disruption to their businesses and for it not to even work. Heartbreaking and rightfully outraged

Councillor on rte radio 1 just said no that the floods in bandon were in sections that weren't complete yet (taking forever) and that the storm drains were taking in too much water then they can handle. Doesn't that defeat the point of storm drains?