ArmaniJeanss wrote: » The judge's summing up of the evidence for the jury took half a day. Posters here seem to want someone to sum it up in a few bullet points, whilst also be detailed enough to stand up their scrutiny.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » I'm not sure the conviction will stick that's my point, if only someone could tell us what the actual hard evidence was instead of saying end of story !
CrankyHaus wrote: » Well since a jury was satisfied of his guilt, why do you think there was insufficient evidence? Genuine question. I'm not coming at the case with an expert's knowledge and if you have substantive criticisms of the prosecution I'd be interested in them.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » Hardly makes him guilty talking crap in a pub, like i said earlier, if he's really guilty then well done. I'm not so sure.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » End of story, in other words you don't have a clue either, like the two people spouting the same nonsense in this thread.
suicide_circus wrote: » Do you treat all court verdicts like this?
mynamejeff wrote: » what makes you , "not so sure " do you know something that the jury didn't ? as others have said if you do spit it out other wise its really hard to see what your trying to do
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » Just what i've heard from someone that would know that's all i can say.That's why i have to repeatedly ask what evidence makes people so sure he's guilty, all i'm getting is abuse, or end of story ! I have no hidden agendas i just like to know the actual truth.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » Another person that won't actually say what evidence there is. You are easily convinced.
joseywhales wrote: » I can only assume that they trust the legal system to reach a reasonable verdict. There was very little detail in the newspaper article I read(Irish times), perhaps more will come. They certainly pulled out all the stops in the investigation, a serious amount of time and money spent it appears. Which makes sense, we do have a responsibility to protect those whose job it is to protect us.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » Just what i've heard from someone that would know that's all i can say.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » That's why i have to repeatedly ask what evidence makes people so sure he's guilty, all i'm getting is abuse, or end of story ! I have no hidden agendas i just like to know the actual truth.
its really hard to see what your trying to do
Hodors Appletart wrote: » the people whinging "where's the evidence" are very transparent at what they are doing here I trust the justice system. I trust the jury of peers that obviously hasn't been "got at" by dark forces here. I trust the judge to correctly direct the jury. I trust the Gardaí who would have made damn sure there wasn't a t dotted or an i crossed in case this absolute scumbag got off on a technicality I don't trust some person on the internet casting aspersions and being very obvious about why they are doing that
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » Yes i totally get that and agree with you, but on the other hand, we can't just trust the gardai to do the right thing, especially if they are under huge pressure to get a conviction.So basically no one clearly knows the evidence here, so the end of story thing means they don't have a clue either, but are happy to believe what they have read and that's it 100% he must be guilty. Fair enough i'd just rather know the truth.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » Do you always ask irrelevant questions ?
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » You must be very young or very naive to hold those views.
touts wrote: » The Shinner-bot machine whirring into action already defending one of their own questioning the mountain of evidence against this scumbag. It took months to go through the evidence and the end result was the jury found him guilty as hell. Can't repeat months of the case but the key thing for me: HE BRAGGED ABOUT BEING A COP KILLER. When he wraps the tricolour around him I hope they reject his application for special treatment and transfer to a provo-jail. This lad needs to rot in Mountjoy.
event wrote: » Sure go away and read the court transcripts, look at all the evidence yourself, what the prosecution presented, talk to people from the area and some of the guards involved, like I've done. He's guilty. I've waited for this for 7 years, I'm not gonna start putting up stuff on boards so some faceless clown can decide if he think he's guilty or not
Deleted User wrote: » Is there any evidence?
Hodors Appletart wrote: » very good attack the person you'd be well used to that strategy I'd say
davo2001 wrote: » 40 year sentence for capital murder, i wonder how long he will actually serve, hopefully the whole term but i doubt it.
touts wrote: » And here we go. The shinner bots starting the "punishment tweeting" against the Gardai
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » So i'm a faceless clown because i'd like to see or hear some evidence.
Deleted User wrote: » What physical evidence,puts him.there? Seems a whole lot of he said/she said....just dont think someone should do 40 years jail on that basis
begbysback wrote: » I take it your from the country so I’ll help you out with some context, I was conversing with another poster who gave me one piece of information which I questioned. I usually try my best to avoid people like you who arrive on a thread with a conclusion, good luck.
Deleted User wrote: » Is there any evidence? This lad looking at 40 years,it would want to be competly 100% faultless........yous are essentially putting someone away for life,there cant be any shadow of doubt about imo