FrancieBrady wrote: » That article is about 'dissidents' who didn't sign up to the GFA. They exist alright and are a threat. They are diametrically opposed to SF. Are you sure you know what you are talking about here?
Superfoods wrote: » No Francie, I know nothing. You seem to be the only man in Ireland who knows everything about the PIRA and Sinn Fein. For a first time voter, incredible knowledge.As I said in my original post, its the same lads, the same links with Sinn Fein and doing the same things. Just sticking dissidents in front of them to cover the links to PIRA which is now gone
jm08 wrote: » John Hume was fairly scathing about the south over the years and their lack of effort to help nationalists in NI. They were abandoned for the first 50 years. He was the one that drove the peace and he was the one who devised how to do it (by getting the US politicians involved). I'd recommend you watching that video of Hume in America which is now on the RTE player at the moment.https://www.rte.ie/player/movie/john-hume-in-america-s1-e1/78385704430 A memomorable comment from Fr Denis Faul after the Warrington Bombing which is critical of the south about not caring about catholic children being burnt in their beds. A few more here to that atrocity. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/the-angry-south-the-weary-north-irish-people-voice-their-feelings-on-the-horrors-of-the-iras-1500451.html None of those nationalists from NI sounded like they felt the south was doing a lot for them and their situation.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/the-angry-south-the-weary-north-irish-people-voice-their-feelings-on-the-horrors-of-the-iras-1500451.html
SafeSurfer wrote: » The same Denis Faul who passed on information to the Irish government claiming Gerry Adams was responsible for passing information to the British which resulted in the Loughgall massacre and who also told journalists he believed Martin Mc Guinness was a British mole. That Denis Faul?
A document released today by the Department of Foreign Affairs shows that Fr Denis Faul said there was a rumour doing the rounds that "the IRA team were set up by Gerry Adams himself."Fr Faul was "intrigued" by the theory. A spokesperson for Sinn Féin has today told RTÉ that "these claims are utter nonsense".
Godson does not reveal whether Faul told him any other names. But to be fair to McGuinness, it is not clear whether Faul believed McGuinness was an active agent of British intelligence, or an "agent of influence" in the more acceptable sense that he agreed with the peace process - which both the British and Irish governments were jointly pushing then as now. But coming from such solid sources as Godson and Faul, the allegations will increase pressure on the Provos to sign up for policing.
Yeah_Right wrote: » Mate, you started with the hyperbolic stuff; a left wing Josef Fritzl vs a right wing Florence Nightingale? A serial killer paedophile? I simply carried that to its logical conclusion.
Ok, so young adults are being screwed by the system according to you. I can accept that as a point of view. Revolution? Violent overthrow of the government? Murders and terrorists in charge? Simply because you get promised what you want. That is BS. How about that demographic stop complaining and get involved. It is a democracy. Get out there and get elected and make the changes you want.
Also, are you my step son? 😆
Edgware wrote: » Its always someone elses fault. What did the Nationalists do to improve their situation for fifty years? Sit on their arse1 and complain about Dublin. In any case during the War of Independence the level of I.R.A. activity in what is now the six counties was far less than down the South. Were they afraid to upset the Unionists?
jm08 wrote: » Well, you do know what happened when they started the civil rights campaign - 13 were shot in Derry by the Paras.
jm08 wrote: » Well, you do know what happened when they started the civil rights campaign - 13 were shot in Derry by the Paras. Frank Aiken was fairly active in the Civil War up around south armagh and Louth. Ever hear of the Altnaveigh Massacre?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Whoa a minute there JM, should his/her first lesson be in 'what and how could nationalists do about it'. Dublin stood idly by and watched Unionists change the voting system to allow them to gerrymander and legislate nationalists out of influence while London ignored it. What is alarmingly evident in these discussions is that when posters do eventually add something to the discussion it is so poorly informed to be laughable.
jm08 wrote: » No, the Denis Faul who passed on this information of a rumour (from State papers).https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mcguinness-did-work-for-british-faul-26413586.html The devil is in the detail SS. Will you ever learn?
castletownman wrote: » That story about the SF member at local level in Wexford having to resign his chairmanship after being caught cyber abusing a local politican and businessman using a fake twitter account is crazy. I have heard a recording of him basically been exposed and the amount of denying he does initially would make Adams proud. I know the fella a bit too. And he always came across as a bit brash and assholey.
SafeSurfer wrote: » You’re right. Why would big Gerry arrange the killing of the man who had threatened to kill him. At least they sent their top guy to investigate the source of the leak which led to the destruction of the East Tyrone IRA. Who did they send to get to the truth for Gerry? Oh yes, British agent Freddy Scapatticci.https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mcguinness-did-work-for-british-faul-26413586.html The devil is in the detail SS. Will you ever learn?
FrancieBrady wrote: »
I suppose you are going to tell us that you knew Denis Faul better than Dean Godson now and that you have some special insight because your house is near the border. You haven’t read the book have you? What was Scappatticis findings on the source of the Loughgall leak? It definitely wasn’t Gerry. Right?
FrancieBrady wrote: » I'm just wondering how Adams survived, not to mention McGuinness if we are to believe the various allegations. He had the British state, The Irish state's security forces pitted against him, he was touting for the British wile planning pretty destructive acts against them, even almost killing their PM as the top man in the 'RA. His work for the British was so well known about that random priest and unionist writers knew that he had sent IRA to their deaths to settle a dispute/leadership challenge. I mean you have got to admire him as a survivor, if nothing else..no?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » When you say "float with the wind", do you mean "do whatever it takes to get the support of the public"? Good. Then they'll want to stick to the policies which led them to an unprecedented showing in the last general election, which means not abandoning left wing policies in housing and the cost of living if they get into power. We'll see if they deliver or not, but the others definitely won't.
And yet rents are still at all-time record highs and Fine Gael's "solution" is to block city councils from building social housing without selloffs to developers, and to champion the massive lowering of minimum standards for apartments, ultimately telling young people that, one way or another, we have to get used to a reduced quality of life over time.
It's not about cuts to government departments, it's about what they spend money on and what they refuse to spend money on, as well as what interventions they refuse to make in the economy to ensure a quality of life for citizens. The two biggest issues among young voters that I spoke to in the run up to the election (and many of them wouldn't be cut from anything like the same left wing cloth as myself under normal circumstances) were co-living and O'Devaney Gardens. Both issues combined amounted to Murphy and Varadkar saying "f*ck you and your asipirations, the quality of life you enjoyed in the earlier part of this decade has been sacrificed on the alter of market 'recovery' and we're not going to do anything to get it back for you because we couldn't give a bollocks".
SafeSurfer wrote: » Well he did have powerful friends.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I mean you have got to admire him as a survivor, if nothing else..no?
FrancieBrady wrote: » He almost killed the most powerful one working as a tout for her armed forces if the allegations are true. Does that make the slightest sense to you? Seems to me that he is a very relaxed member of his own community even though random priests and unionist writers were aware that he had sent members of that community to their deaths...does that make the slightest sense outside of fiction?
SafeSurfer wrote: » Scappatticci is still alive. Donaldson survived decades until the IRA killed him. Faul is hardly a “random priest”. One of your points is that it is somehow unbelievable that he sent some members of his community to their deaths. Are you that much in denial that you won’t admit the republican movement, of which Adams was head, sent members of his own community to their death? You Frequently refer to the collusion of British security forces in the war against the IRA yet not only was Adams not killed as a result of this collusion, British security forces saved his life by swapping the UDA’ hit squads ammunition with low velocity rounds and subsequently saved his life after a murder attempt. Hardly the actions of a force desperately wanting rid of Adams. They actively protected him.
Edgware wrote: » SF is the type of party that attracts the local wannabee Provo hardman who thinks flaunting around with an Easter Lily will give him street cred. They should be able to recognise these lads as the scum they are. Some of the gents I see out canvassing for Sinn Fein certainly wouldnt encourage me to vote for them. Then you have decent men like Brian Stanley T.D. who highlighted the Covid risks in midland meat factories months ago. I know non S.F. people in Leitrim who have great regard for Martin Quinn as a very good local representative. These men seem to be kept in the background and instead we get "up the Ra" Cullinane who just comes across like a bulldog eating a wasp with nothing positive to say.
mattser wrote: » Great to see them getting hammered here. A couple of the main amigos are missing note. They must know they're on a hiding to nothing. Anyway, days work ahead.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Now I wonder who told you the story about the low velocity rounds? Whenever you get around to squaring all the other circles of improbability...stuck it in a book and I might buy it. For now I call bull**** on the claim and counter claim about the man...it makes no sense if you look at anything approaching the real world and real relationships. Maybe some day somebody might tell the real story.
Bonniedog wrote: » Stanley and others are decent people and good reps. Ó Caoláin also but they are a dwindling band. Cullinane is a particularly unpleasant example of the current set up. Waterford's "Up the Ra" ing was noted with considerable irony by Provies of longer vintage
FrancieBrady wrote: » We are in a post conflict phase were people are in denial that the IRA actually had support...hence the faux outrage about Culinane's private exhuberance and celebration. The south went through the same sort of confused hiatus during the 30's and 40's about the equally bloody and terrible period of our gestation to a free and sovereign entity. By the 50 year anniversary there was a mood swing about it all though leading to a familiar but still perplexing dichotomy that I witnessed yet again this morning with Ryan Tubridy waxing lyrical about the IRA Hunger Strikes of the 1920's. His like is not ready to wax lyrical about the most recent hunger strikes. I probably won't be around to hear it, but I guarantee that one day his like will be waxing lyrical about the men and women of this period too.
