The Unbearables wrote: » Jay Fleitman, MD. Practising in patient care for over 40 years.https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-Jay-Fleitman-35536697 Biden is in big trouble. Democrats need to start putting together a plan B if Joe doesn't make the debates or he breaks down live during the debate.
Danzy wrote: » He has always been like he is. Biden is very different from last year and amazingly so from when he was VP. There is no certainty that Biden will know who he is debating.
threeball wrote: » I think its clear his goose is cooked and he won't get enough supporters barring a complete disaster for Biden. My point was in relation to the assertion that Biden would soundly win the debates. You can't win a debate when there is no debating. Its boxer vs a dirty streetfighter who'll bite and gouge his way through. Nothing is beneath Trump. If he thought holding Biden down and tea bagging him would win him votes he'd give it a go live on stage.
rosser44 wrote: » It's the drum that Trump fans have to keep beating because they have no other attack options. Never mind the fact that he is infinitely more eloquent than trump and a much better public speaker despite his lifelong speech impediment . Oh and he can ride a bike and walk down a ramp without looking like a geriatric on his last legs.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Another idiotic post questioning Bidens mental health :rolleyes:
Danzy wrote: » He has always been like he is.
sydthebeat wrote: » Trump gets a free pass cos he's very stupid, no??
Quin_Dub wrote: » That's probably true , but will those "punches" win him new support or just get him a few more "Hell Yeahs" from already committed Trump voters? He needs more voters , not fresh soundbites for his existing support.
alchemist33 wrote: » I suspect the debates will change few minds. Biden supporters will claim a won because he as more logical and eloquent. Trump supportes will claim a win because he used more insults and nicknames.
threeball wrote: » Sanders was never getting the DNC vote. Hes a commie in their eyes. He was robbed against Clinton in a number of states. They have no interest in putting him in the whitehouse and stopping the flow of money to big business. The DNC aren't much different than the GOP, slightly less religious, slightly less pro 2nd amendment, slightly more pro choice but theres very littel else to divide them, at least before the tea partiers and Trump got onboard. Trump never wins any debate but he does land the punches that do damage and that stick in the mind.
Leroy42 wrote: » Agree on the likely process of the debates. Don't agree on the Sanders thing. He he clearly won the debates then why didn't the DNC voters vote for Sanders. It seems the 'left' is always obsessed with the moral victory. The point of the debates was to win votes in the primary. Biden did it, Sanders did not. HC clearly 'won' the debates in 2016, when looked at in any rational debate review. However, clearly Trump was the winner as he came out of them looking better than when he went in.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Almost certainly no. How exactly would the holder of a fake drivers licence get registered to vote?? Does the fake drivers licence also come with a valid social security number etc.? It's fake ID - Used to get served in bars , not for voting? American Teenagers pay top dollar for good fake ID - They are likely no different than fake gucci bags - Someone was planning to use them to make money , not influence elections.
Quin_Dub wrote: » There are actual press reports about a load of fake Drivers licences being seized at O'Hare in Chicago but even the press release from Customs and Border Protection makes no suggestion of a link to Voter fraud. Just the usual stuff fake ID is used for - Underage drinking, smuggling etc.
mcmoustache wrote: » Where did this story come from? Was it from the guy who said that 3 million voted illegally in 2016?
Kidchameleon wrote: » Feel free to take it with a pinch of salt. Hopefully more (verifiable) information comes out in the coming days. Whats the general consensus re. 1000's of fake drivers licences coming in at election time? Could cause some vote fraud?
Quin_Dub wrote: » Here's the thing about the debates. First off - Biden will of course be there for all of the debates , that is not a question nor has it ever been. But Trump has essentially handed Biden a win in the debates - Certainly in the 1st one. He and his surrogates have spent months and months telling everyone that Biden is incapable of speaking , that he's not fit enough for office , that he's suffering severe mental decline etc. etc. etc. they have lowered the bar so far in terms of what would be construed as a "good performance" from Biden If any undecided voters (if any truly still exist) actually are buying in to the "Biden isn't well" angle , all Biden has to do to utterly blow up what is essentially the only Trump angle on him is not drool or walk into walls. Biden doesn't even have to try to win the first debate , he already has.
The Unbearables wrote: » Biden is showing obvious signs of stage 1 dementia. Right now I'd say it's 50/50 if he makes the debates or not.
