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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan

I haven't seen or heard anything from Mary Lou, Slab Murphy and other good Republicans in ages.

What's going on?

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seamus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No substance?

I think Leo is one of coldest politicians I have ever seen in the Dáil. His serial lack of empathy and judgement is a long standing thing. Deciding to have a photo op in one of the most expensive shops on Grafton Street?

Yeah, buying shoes...what a cold, unfeeling psychopath.

Once again Francie you're on here defending SF when even they've abandoned whatever point it was that they were trying to make.

The Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment went to buy shoes from an Irish family business in an Irish shop on his way to announce a restart grant scheme for Irish businesses.

It's not exactly worthy of a journalism award, but it doesn't take a genius to understand the purpose of it as a photo op.

But yeah, clearly he should have gone into Tesco and bought a pair of runners to appear more "empathic" with the man on the street.

Better warn Stephen Donnelly to stay out of Louis Copelands. Buy your suits off-the-rack from M&S instead, apparently that's how you're sensitive to Irish voters...

Poor_old_gill

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It's a 'playbook' when it's perceived to be a shinner, it's original thought when said by anybody else.

Yawn.

When it’s the same rhetoric played out across several mediums by a number of aliases then yes, it is a playbook

Poor_old_gill

joeguevara wrote: »

I saw a young Pearse buying jeans on the telly. Is that allowed?

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2020/08/06/how-do-you-say-jeans-in-irish/

Were they fashion jeans?

Poor_old_gill

seamus wrote: »

Yeah, buying shoes...what a cold, unfeeling psychopath.

Once again Francie you're on here defending SF when even they've abandoned whatever point it was that they were trying to make.

The Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment went to buy shoes from an Irish family business in an Irish shop on his way to announce a restart grant scheme for Irish businesses.

It's not exactly worthy of a journalism award, but it doesn't take a genius to understand the purpose of it as a photo op.

But yeah, clearly he should have gone into Tesco and bought a pair of runners to appear more "empathic" with the man on the street.

Better warn Stephen Donnelly to stay out of Louis Copelands. Buy your suits off-the-rack from M&S instead, apparently that's how you're sensitive to Irish voters...

From M&S? A shop of British origin? Are you f*ckin mad?

The shinners would have a field day

FrancieBrady

seamus wrote: »

Yeah, buying shoes...what a cold, unfeeling psychopath.

Once again Francie you're on here defending SF when even they've abandoned whatever point it was that they were trying to make.

The Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment went to buy shoes from an Irish family business in an Irish shop on his way to announce a restart grant scheme for Irish businesses.

It's not exactly worthy of a journalism award, but it doesn't take a genius to understand the purpose of it as a photo op.

But yeah, clearly he should have gone into Tesco and bought a pair of runners to appear more "empathic" with the man on the street.

Better warn Stephen Donnelly to stay out of Louis Copelands. Buy your suits off-the-rack from M&S instead, apparently that's how you're sensitive to Irish voters...

The most expensive shop on the street.

Not crime of the century...just more grist to the mill that this man doesn't think through what he is doing and that his personal image is more important.

Again...everyone knows that there is more than enough evidence to make a case/comment about this.

We had the same defenders on here, saying the same things when he was called out before. Nothing changes there.

joeguevara

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Were they fashion jeans?

Have to be Wrangler, with a check shirt. Boot cut obviously.

Rodney Bathgate

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The most expensive shop on the street.

I think the owners of Brown Thomas would disagree with you there.

Yeah_Right

jm08 wrote: »

It would have been a better look if he didn't use one of the most expensive shoe shops on Grafton Street.

Why? If he can afford a good pair of shoes from an expensive shop, why shouldn't he buy them? Should people only support shops that sell cheap stuff like Pennys?

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JohnnyFlash wrote: »

He’s now the main opposition spokesperson for health as well.

Rodney Bathgate

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Why? If he can afford a good pair of shoes from an expensive shop, why shouldn't he buy them? Should people only support shops that sell cheap stuff like Pennys?

Penney’s is British owned, so that would also be verboten.

Poor_old_gill

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Penney’s is British owned, so that would also be verboten.

It’d be akin to championing the famine

piplip87

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/08/11/news/arlene-foster-and-michelle-o-neill-respect-hong-kong-national-security-laws-2031376/?param=ds441rif44T

I wonder what the aul shinner playbook will say about this.... Although not surprising as they sided with the Chinese on saying the election in Venezuela was free and fair.....

Yeah_Right

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

For the record I'm the same, anyone who's seen my posting history on Boards or interacted with me over the years knows that I always ruled out voting SF on the basis of the party whip and the fact that their record in Northern Ireland didn't gel with the manifestoes they were pushing here. I voted for them #2 in this election after PBP .....

At that point you lost me and I stopped reading.

jm08

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Penney’s is British owned, so that would also be verboten.

Its owned by the Canadian Weston family. Mrs Weston is Irish and they are Ireland's richest family (they own BTs as well).

Yeah_Right

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Penney’s is British owned, so that would also be verboten.

Good point. Is there an Irish owned store that sells cheap (crappy) clothing and shoes where Leo could shop? You know, to show he is in touch with the "man in the street".

Edit: Just saw jm08's post. So if Leo had bought the shoes at BT he would have been ok?

joeguevara

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Good point. Is there an Irish owned store that sells cheap (crappy) clothing and shoes where Leo could shop? You know, to show he is in touch with the "man in the street".

Edit: Just saw jm08's post. So if Leo had bought the shoes at BT he would have been ok?

Shaws.

FrancieBrady

piplip87 wrote: »

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/08/11/news/arlene-foster-and-michelle-o-neill-respect-hong-kong-national-security-laws-2031376/?param=ds441rif44T

I wonder what the aul shinner playbook will say about this.... Although not surprising as they sided with the Chinese on saying the election in Venezuela was free and fair.....

Well, wouldn't the first thing anyone with an investigative, curious mind be to ask oneself if they would trust a report on a Chinese government website...might the Chinese diplomat be 'gilding the lily' a bit? Was there a bit of spin going on?

Is it the first time the Chinese misreported or took liberties with what actually happened for propaganda purposes?

What do you think?

jm08

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Good point. Is there an Irish owned store that sells cheap (crappy) clothing and shoes where Leo could shop? You know, to show he is in touch with the "man in the street".

Edit: Just saw jm08's post. So if Leo had bought the shoes at BT he would have been ok?

Thomas Patrick is an Irish owned family business and in fairness to Leo, he was making an attempt to publicise the grants to help small businesses reopen.

While saying that, shopping on Grafton Street doesn't do much for his image as being in touch with the ''man in the street.'' He would have been much better off going to a shop like Cripps in Terenure (also family owned) or a shop anywhere except on one of the most expensive streets in Ireland.

FrancieBrady

jm08 wrote: »

Thomas Patrick is an Irish owned family business and in fairness to Leo, he was making an attempt to publicise the grants to help small businesses reopen.

While saying that, shopping on Grafton Street doesn't do much for his image as being in touch with the ''man in the street.'' He would have been much better off going to a shop like Cripps in Terenure (also family owned) or a shop anywhere except on one of the most expensive streets in Ireland.

After all, 'We are all in this together loike'.

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jm08 wrote: »

Thomas Patrick is an Irish owned family business and in fairness to Leo, he was making an attempt to publicise the grants to help small businesses reopen.

While saying that, shopping on Grafton Street doesn't do much for his image as being in touch with the ''man in the street.'' He would have been much better off going to a shop like Cripps in Terenure (also family owned) or a shop anywhere except on one of the most expensive streets in Ireland.

Went on the website was expecting Prada or something. Not much more expensive than Adidas or Air Max. No wonder he deleted the tweet.

joeguevara

jh79 wrote: »

Went on the website was expecting Prada or something. Not much more expensive than Adidas or Air Max. No wonder he deleted the tweet.

Most shoes in there are 150 quid. Loads of the people who tweet that he has lost touch with the common man are wearing 900 euro canada goose jackets.

seamus

jm08 wrote: »

He would have been much better off going to a shop like Cripps in Terenure (also family owned) or a shop anywhere except on one of the most expensive streets in Ireland.

The mistake you're making is thinking that this has anything to do with what he was buying or where he was buying it. It was a pathetic attempt at a potshot.

If he went to Cripp's he'd be accused of pandering to Leafy South Dublin FG voters.

If he went out to a shop in Blanchardstown village he'd be accused of playing local politics.

There was no substance to this tweet. It was bitching for the sake of bitching. SF special.

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joeguevara wrote: »

Most shoes in there are 150 quid. Loads of the people who tweet that he has lost touch with the common man are wearing 900 euro canada goose jackets.

SF store has an 80 euro silver easter lily and an awful print of some Lynch fella for 115 euro!

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I didn't recognise any rage in the tweet Seamus. It was a pointed comment at the inappropriateness, lack of empathy of the Tanaiste. Something he has been accused of so many times now I have lost count.

Of course that is trenchantly denied by his fans. Lots of them getting upset yesterday on that tweet and of course they were all responding politely in a non abusing way.

Much like SFs funeral for Storey.
What sort of empathy for others with bereaved having to not allow, even all family members attend funerals for loved ones.
Empathy isn't exactly high on their list at all given their history and some of the stuff they defend.

FrancieBrady

seamus wrote: »

The mistake you're making is thinking that this has anything to do with what he was buying or where he was buying it. It was a pathetic attempt at a potshot.

If he went to Cripp's he'd be accused of pandering to Leafy South Dublin FG voters.

If he went out to a shop in Blanchardstown village he'd be accused of playing local politics.

And you will defend him in this way, no matter what.

This, in the opinion of some, was further evidence of his coldness and lack of empathy...at it's most serious when he huffily challenges a widower on the day of his wife's death to this kind of trite image consciousness..

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Much like SFs funeral for Storey.
What sort of empathy for others with bereaved having to not allow, even all family members attend funerals for loved ones.
Empathy isn't exactly high on their list at all given their history and some of the stuff they defend.

Absolutely...which is why I criticised SF for it.

Edgware

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Absolutely...which is why I criticised SF for it.

Have you got your new uniform yet for going back to school? 6th class will be so exciting

FrancieBrady

Edgware wrote: »

Have you got your new uniform yet for going back to school? 6th class will be so exciting

seamus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And you will defend him in this way, no matter what.

See you're out and out a SF supporter. Whereas you won't find any indication here that I'm a FG supporter. I'll support any valid criticism of any politician. A man choosing to spend his own money on a mid-range pair of shoes, is not valid criticism.

This is not about Varadkar. This is about Cullinane and how he's an ignoramus that's completely unsuitable for public office. The childishness of a 46 year old man shouting "up the RA" was just the beginning, but he's maintained this nonsense throughout.

And the support he maintains within SF displays the wider contagion. O'Broin and Doherty are just as prolific with the invented outrage, but they're a little more savvy than Cullinane and aren't quite as easiy caught out.

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FrancieBrady wrote: »

And you will defend him in this way, no matter what.

This, in the opinion of some, was further evidence of his coldness and lack of empathy...at it's most serious when he huffily challenges a widower on the day of his wife's death to this kind of trite image consciousness..

Buying a pair of shoes and going for dinner with his partner shows a lack of empathy? Jaysus.