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Shannon Water for Dublin?

saabsaab

Does it make sense that the state would spend billions piping water from the Shannon to Dublin? Apart from the controversy about costs and fixing the leaks in the system would it not make more sense to make a new urban development area near water and space i.e. Athlone or similar. This would reduce traffic housing shortages etc. etc.

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Samuel T. Cogley

Yeah the problem with it being like Athlone, is being like Athlone.

saabsaab

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Yeah the problem with it being like Athlone, is being like Athlone.

Well Athlone has the water.

Samuel T. Cogley

saabsaab wrote: »

Well Athlone has the water.

Cut back on showers or live in Athlone... It's a tough one. :pac:

saabsaab

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Cut back on showers or live in Athlone... It's a tough one. :pac:

Dirty in Dublin, anyone?

Montage of Feck

Well if they do, as a denizen of the wastelands outside the pale, I be taking a pee in the Shannon.

saabsaab

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Well if they do, as a denizen of the wastelands outside the pale, I be taking a pee in the Shannon.

Just Dublin taking the piss.

Rodney Bathgate

If anyone has seen the film Brewsters Millions then you know the solution. Tow an iceberg into Dublin Bay.

saabsaab

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

If anyone has seen the film Brewsters Millions then you know the solution. Tow an iceberg into Dublin Bay.

Cool.

Darc19

Where did the "billions" suddenly come from.

Sounds like a fake bs headline from a sh1t rag like the evening hysterical or their British equivalent Irish daily muck.

The Shannon has excess water. It's relatively clean. Dublin needs water especially when you see how little rain can fall at times which puts strains on the system.

This is future proofing the water supply and that is to be commended. For too many years, "future proofing" never went past the next election.

El Tarangu

saabsaab wrote: »

... would it not make more sense to make a new urban development area near water and space i.e. Athlone or similar. This would reduce traffic housing shortages etc. etc.

Which do you think would cost more: building a big pipe, or building 'Dublin-on-the-Shannon'?

saabsaab

El Tarangu wrote: »

Which do you think would cost more: building a big pipe, or building 'Dublin-on-the-Shannon'?

Taking everything into account, over the long term, I'd say the new capital would cost less.

El Tarangu

saabsaab wrote: »

Taking everything into account, over the long term, I'd say the new capital would cost less.

Not sure that I agree with you; where would all these new jobs come from?

Using much the same logic, the goverment could cancel the national broadband plan, and tell everyone to move to some town where they do have broadband

saabsaab

El Tarangu wrote: »

Not sure that I agree with you; where would all these new jobs come from?

Using much the same logic, the goverment could cancel the national broadband plan, and tell everyone to move to some town where they do have broadband

Not talking about moving Dublin as it is there but new development. Easier to spread broadband than to move a basic need like water or open space.

LuasSimon

Dublin has taken all the jobs and young people from rural Ireland..might as well take the water as well!

Hodors Appletart

with the advent of widespread WFH developing a place like Athlone seems a really good idea

saabsaab

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

with the advent of widespread WFH developing a place like Athlone seems a really good idea

You would think so but not getting a lot of support on the thread.

[Deleted User]

Two or three summers ago we had a prolonged period of hot, dry weather. No rain in Dublin for 6+ weeks.

Outside my apartment is a large green area which turned brown - aside from three or four little oasis's next to the irish Water manholes where water was visibly leaking and making the grass green and lush.

I sent pictures into Irish Water but they were too busy doing Bikram yoga because I never got an acknowledgement.

There is zero point in spending money transporting water from the shannon to Dublin, if its going to leak into the ground on the way or when it arrives.

saabsaab

From what I gather 50% of Dublins water is being lost!
The system is unable to cope, little is being done to improve it and will lead to bursts even if Shannon water is pumped there.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/mains-supply-awash-with-leaks-behind-dublin-water-shortage-1.3561620

Marcusm

LuasSimon wrote: »

Dublin has taken all the jobs and young people from rural Ireland..might as well take the water as well!

Probably better than them being taken by the U.K., US or Australia?

saabsaab

'Pump it from the Shannon' just turn the tap and out it comes.

It's not going to be that simple at all, legal cases, heritage issues EU and environmental problems. Even if it came the system won't cope without massive further upgrades.

Darc19

saabsaab wrote: »

From what I gather 50% of Dublins water is being lost!
The system is unable to cope, little is being done to improve it and will lead to bursts even if Shannon water is pumped there.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/mains-supply-awash-with-leaks-behind-dublin-water-shortage-1.3561620

It's about 45% and includes "unaccounted" usage.

The best in the world runs about 20% lost/ unaccounted water.

But if we don't want to pay for it, we can't expect it to get much better

saabsaab

Darc19 wrote: »

It's about 45% and includes "unaccounted" usage.

The best in the world runs about 20% lost/ unaccounted water.

But if we don't want to pay for it, we can't expect it to get much better

It will only get worse as Dublin expands and the existing system degrades. expect increasing problems every summer.

saabsaab

This is news again. As I said before it's a daft idea not only because Dublin is not sustainable as it is but 50% of the water is lost into the ground as is. What would happen to the Shannon water?

Better to develop a new capital around Athlone, more space, nearer everywhere and plenty of Shannon water.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122194701#Comment_122194701

A new capital just so a few people can have a cup of tea?

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122194710#Comment_122194710

Sure. Barry's is mine, Ta. Seriously, it's much more than that. Traffic, crime, water employment housing all could be much improved.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/114279690#Comment_114279690

That's old news, it's around 30% now.

Meanwhile peoples houses getting flooded in the winter time in the Shannon floodplains.

The plan to pipe it during the winter floods and lake-store it in Peamount to supply Dublin City, South Dublin, Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown, Fingal, Meath, Kildare, north Tipperary, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Meath and Wicklow was shunned.

They'd rather be flooded than supply another county. You just couldn't make it up and guess where they go with the begging bowl to clean up their flood mess?

saabsaab

Mad idea even without taking into account the massive environmental damage done in the construction and wildlife affected by the processing. Maybe they aren't serious?

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122194841#Comment_122194841

I doubt that the flooding would be changed very much as for money it will come from the EU as is usual.

saabsaab

Importing water might not be a solution if thsi come true..

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/dublin-named-among-worlds-most-at-risk-cities-from-rising-sea-levels/a332893995.html

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122194856#Comment_122194856

You are right absolutely no affect on flooding.

The flooding on the Shannon is caused by the topography of the river basin.