Downing Street plans rape prosecution targets for police and CPS Exclusive: unusual intervention aims to reverse decline and bring more cases to trial
Betsy Devos restores much-needed due process to American campuses with Title IX reforms
Title IX had not been conceived with the resolution of sexual complaint cases on its radar, and many observers saw the DCL exploitation of it as illegal. But it went down well with feminist groups like the American Association of University Women (AAUW), who were delighted to see “a preponderance of the evidence,” i.e. a 50.1 per cent likelihood of guilt, replace “beyond a reasonable doubt (95 per cent certainty),” the standard in criminal court. The procedures outlined in Dear Colleague made it very difficult for an accused individual to defend himself: he could not see or present evidence, have a lawyer represent him, or confront his accuser, all routine rights in any real court.
Bombay High Court Fines Woman ₹ 25,000 For False Rape Complaint: Report The woman had registered an FIR against her boyfriend at in Palghar district on March 16, alleging that he had "drugged and raped her".
University suspended black student for a year because drunk white girl kissed him: lawsuit She told three different stories – and the last one can be falsified Long Island University punished a black student for sexual assault despite his white accuser’s constantly changing story and several witnesses who either contradicted or couldn’t corroborate her claims, according to a lawsuit filed last week against the private university in Brookville, New York. “John Doe” accused LIU of Title IX and Title VI violations, saying “gender bias was a motivating factor” in the “erroneous outcome” of his proceeding and racial bias explains the “differential treatment” he received compared to “Jane Roe.”
Jane had drunkenly kissed John, “an active and well-respected member of his church,” without his affirmative consent “in front of many witnesses” in a dorm room. (As a football player on LIU’s team, John had also resolved not to drink during the season.) Later that night she panicked that her public behavior could harm her “committed relationship” with another man. The next day she filed a complaint against John, claiming that the night before he had forced her to perform oral sex on him. He also “pulled” her into another room where he held her down and continued kissing her, Jane claimed. In the final version of her story, she made a factual assertion that could be vetted: John assaulted her behind a “wall” of dressers in the room, which is furnished by LIU.
Jimmy Twotimes wrote: » Came across an Australian case yesterday where a 17yo girl falsely accused a 15yo boy of raping her in a park. He spent a year in prison before being acquitted. As far as I could see the girl suffered no punishment for her lies. Wtf?!
Caquas wrote: » Link?
Jimmy Twotimes wrote: » Boards won't let me post a link but try googling 'Patrick Waring rape'. Just found an AMA he did on Reddit. A quick look and he says he was beaten regularly in prison (very quickly the prisoners found out what he 'did') and never received a penny in compensation.
Rape case prosecutors must disregard sext messages By June Kelly Home affairs correspondent, BBC News
"I hope the myth-busting training starts with the CPS lawyers who specialise in rape and serious sexual offences. In my view they are the problem," she says. "I have seen first hand how the CPS strategy is to pull apart a case and play the 'odds' game. "Their approach is to second guess what a jury will decide. The lawyers are fixated on conviction rates and funding, not on representing victims."
The End Violence Against Women coalition and their lawyers at the Centre for Women's Justice are currently involved in legal action over rape prosecutions. In a case due to be heard early next year, they are mounting a court challenge that will examine rape prosecution policy and practice. Sarah Green, director of the End Violence Against Women Coalition, said: "The new guidance for rape prosecutors is welcome if it enables those who prepare cases for court to predict and reject sexist stereotypes about rape and to really consider the impact of trauma on how rape survivors may present.
Rape victims to be legally represented at trial if their sexual history is examined Sweeping reforms aim to improve victims’ experiences of the criminal justice system
iptba wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/rape-victims-to-be-legally-represented-at-trial-if-their-sexual-history-is-examined-1.4392704 In this short piece, the word "victims" is used 16 times. As was mentioned previously, this isn't a neutral term.
It is acknowledged that in the aftermath of a sexual crime the collection of digital evidence such as evidence from a phone is difficult and stressful. Only where necessary and where evidence is required from the phone or other device to prove or disprove the allegations will such evidence be collected.
Caquas wrote: » Here’s the report and the word “victim” is used throughout even though this is about the trial and pre-trial, not post-conviction.https://assets.gov.ie/94023/bb7d391d-2198-4f94-a3bf-64fdd2538bf2.pdf Ultimately, this means more lawyers on the State payroll and lucrative training contracts. I suppose it’s the price the Government is willing to pay. But what about the accused?
Caquas wrote: » What purpose will these lawyers serve? Will they be allowed to examine witnesses? When the jury sees the “victim” has been given lawyers in addition to the prosecutors, how can they acquit? One stated purpose of these lawyers is to “facilitate” the “victim” in “giving their best evidence" .
Caquas wrote: » And what about excluding exculpatory evidence? Mobile phone evidence is a vital tool in criminal investigations but for sexual cases the Gardai are being given a clear warning - hands off the “victims” phone unless you can show it is “necessary” and it can “prove or disprove the allegations”. Not e.g.a stream of sexting between the parties beforehand or friendly messages afterwards unless the victim says “I consented to the sexual activity we engaged in” or something to that effect, which no one ever says in a text . And all Gardai will get expensive training to rid them of any contrary notions.
Caquas wrote: » Imagine if an official report into say drugs offences tried to restrict digital evidence in this way? The Sunday World would have the Minister’s head on a platter.
jimwallace197 wrote: » Oh really, so what was the sil fox case about so when there was obvious cctv evidence contradicting this witches claims? That man had his reputation destroyed and had to wait around months before being exonorated, probably nearly killing him in the process. Disgraceful, I know exactly whats happening so cut your bull****
optogirl wrote: » But the fact remains that men are much more likely to be raped themselves than be falsely accused of rape.
py2006 wrote: » What do you base that "fact" on?
py2006 wrote: » I usually don't take much heed of feminist opinion pieces. Correct me if I am wrong, but the highest victims of rape (may be in the US) are men...but thats in prison. Which is also were the term "rape culture" comes from that feminists stole and somehow applied it to generally in Ireland. :rolleyes:
bubblypop wrote: » Do you have any issue with victims of other crimes being referred to as victims?
optogirl wrote: » Statistics. What else could I possibly base it on?Graffiti on my local pubs loo door?https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-men-are-more-likely-to-be-raped-than-be-falsely-accused-of-rapehttps://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-life-false-rape-allegations-20181011-story.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684https://www.thecut.com/article/false-rape-accusations.html
Caquas wrote: » I have a big issue with someone being called a victim when that prejudges the guilt of another party. In most crimes, it is clear that a crime has been committed and that the complainant is the victim.The main issue is identifying the culprit. When did you last hear of someone accused of murder, for instance, plead not guilty on the grounds that no one died? In most rape cases before our courts, in contrast, the issue is whether any crime has been committed i.e. was the sex consensual. Calling all rape complainants victims assumes that there was a crime and in most cases there is only one possible culprit. The same goes for any case, rare though they are, in which there the defendant claims there has been no crime e.g. if someone accused of embezzlement says that the money was given freely. It would be outrageous if the media reporting on such a case called the person alleging they were embezzled “a victim”.
ittakestwo wrote: » You are pissing into the wind by stating the fact that men are more likely to be raped than falsely accused of rape on this thread.
Alot see this thread as a gender war depite the fact that both men and women can be raped. A false accuser also will always be referred to as a "she" here despite there being no reason why a false accuser of rape cant be male.
bubblypop wrote: » But what if the victim of a crime just lied? Now you are assuming they are a victim and that a crime has been committed, but who knows?! Surely it's prejudicial to whomever they, and/or the state has accused?
Deleted User wrote: » I always find it interesting that we're to believe women who claim that there are more rapes than are reported, but no similar expectation of belief is extended to males. Or similar. A false accuser will be referred as "she" because that's the scenario that was introduced originally. If you want to talk about male on male rape, then, say so, and I'm sure someone will discuss it. But I've been reading this thread for a long time, and previously, the issue hadn't been raised. So... raise it (although perhaps you should have done it when there was more than 3 people posting here):rolleyes:
Deleted User wrote: » I always find it interesting that we're to believe women who claim that there are more rapes than are reported, but no similar expectation of belief is extended to males. Or similar.
ittakestwo wrote: » I The thread is now upwards of 700 posts and predominately made up of the users and the victim is constantly refered to as she even tho the topic has moved on from the original post.
I have raised the issue that rape is by no means just a man/women issue and quoted the fact a man is more likely to be raped than falsely accused of rape. But it went down like a lead balloon.
This thread which is on obviously a very serious subject is presumed by many to be a man/women and sets of a gender war.
Your quote above "I always find it interesting we are to believe women that there are more rapes than reported" is a perfect example. It is not just women who asert that fact, It is pretty much a known/excepted fact that more rapes occur than reported in every demographic.You did not need to word it in away that makes it into a gender war.
optogirl wrote: » What? Where are the instances of men not being believed when they say they have been raped? You'll find the overwhelming majority of support groups, helplines & lobbyists to reduce the instances & impact of these crimes are run by women.
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