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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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Eamonnator

hesker wrote: »

I fantasise afterwards that if I had a hammer in my hand I would have flung it through his window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdQw9dGrAEU

This happened in Drogheda a few years ago. A local hero tried to throw a rock through the window of a Mercedes. He knocked himself unconscious. Alarm on car was set off, owner heard it, went out to investigate and found yer man on the ground.

[Deleted User]

Eamonnator wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdQw9dGrAEU

This happened in Drogheda a few years ago. A local hero tried to throw a rock through the window of a Mercedes. He knocked himself unconscious. Alarm on car was set off, owner heard it, went out to investigate and found yer man on the ground.

I'll not be able to pass there with a straight face for a while

breezy1985

Seth Brundle wrote: »

How long before there's a near miss on this wonderful piece of infrastructure?

https://twitter.com/LkCycleDesign/status/1286320588911501312?s=19

They also just put a new lane over Shannon bridge in Limerick which is really good except they have barriers at either end making it hard to actually get on them

CramCycle

JazzyJ wrote: »

I'll play devils advocate and say you're (probably?) more likely to be killed by a tram if you're a pedestrian/cyclist than in a car... but yeah not a representative selection.

I wonder is that true though, not sure if there have been any deaths or enough to do an analysis but hear me out. The LUAS is not exactly a high speed vehicle, by the look of it, reaction times by staff seem to be exceptional. Bar a dead on collision where the driver keeps going, I'd actually prefer to be a pedestrian who hopefully bounces off rather than a car where i am pinned in and nowhere to go. This is obviously dependent on the fact that I am still reasonably fit and would also vary on collision to collision.
TLDR, your almost certainly more likely to be killed as a pedestrian or cyclist in a set up scenario but in real life, day to day collisions, I wonder would the risks if analysed concur with that assumption.

tnegun

Haven't managed to get out in a few weeks and main a point of it today, I see all the progress during lockdown has been reversed around here at least.

All within 15 mins of each other

These need no explanation

https://streamable.com/na158f
https://streamable.com/cblolz

A little hard to see the black car almost takes out the guy on the bike and pushes him towards oncoming traffic.
https://streamable.com/6paw5c

[Deleted User]

Love his response when he catches up to the car.

tnegun

Thought it was better than my f's sakes alright so left it in. The driver seemed oblivious probably thinking fupping cyclists

Steoller

The standard of driving at that junction is always horrendous. No observation of priority, just bull out into the road.

doughef

tnegun wrote: »

Haven't managed to get out in a few weeks and main a point of it today, I see all the progress during lockdown has been reversed around here at least.

All within 15 mins of each other

These need no explanation

https://streamable.com/na158f
https://streamable.com/cblolz

Do you go looking for trouble ?

1st one - you were over taking the other cyclist and in the middle of the road
2nd one - way out past the yellow line, again in the road.
Van driver was dead right

doughef

magicbastarder wrote: »

what the poster was doing was perfectly legal in both cases.
'out past the yellow line' means he was in the lane - you complain he was 'in the road' - on what planet is it wrong to cycle in the road?

and how is one cyclist supposed to overtake another? on the footpath?

He should of looked behind him rather than pulling out in front of a car . Cars are dangerous lads

doughef

RobertFoster wrote: »

I daren't look at mine sitting in the driveway in case it tries to attack me.

Just don’t cycle out in front of it .
You should be fine.

doughef

magicbastarder wrote: »

FTFY

Just don’t get in their way and you’ll be fine

micar

doughef wrote: »

He should of looked behind him rather than pulling out in front of a car . Cars are dangerous lads

Cars aren't dangerous........it's the people who driving them who are dangerous.

How was it the first motorist gave him plenty of space but the second didn't.

You don't overtake a cyclist overtaking another cyclist.....it's that simple.

All that motorist had to was slow down and wait until it was safe to overtake.

On the second clip....where should the cyclits be......cycling on the yellow line.

Your defense of the motorists is utterly pathetic.

doughef

micar wrote: »

Cars aren't dangerous........it's the people who driving them who are dangerous.

How was it the first motorist gave him plenty of space but the second didn't.

You don't overtake a cyclist overtaking another cyclist.....it's that simple.

All that motorist had to was slow down and wait until it was safe to overtake.

On the second clip....where should the cyclits be......cycling on the yellow line.

Your defense of the motorists is utterly pathetic.

Cyclist shouldn’t have been overtaking when a car was coming behind him.

Cars are dangerous. Motorist was probably in a hurry. Possibly didn’t have time for the silly little cycle man taking over the road- illegally

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ironictoaster wrote: »

New cyclist here. This thread scares the ****e out of me! Still a bit nervous on the road but getting better. I get extremely paranoid when I hear a car behind me just about to speed past me even in a well marked cycle lane.

Hang on in there. Most drivers are fine. Take your time, hold the lane (don't pedal in at the kerb) and look about you. This thread is a compendium of badness, there's lots of goodness too.

It's safer than you think!

[Deleted User]

If you based your opinion on cycling safety on just this thread you'd never cycle. It needs to be looked at in the greater context. Most posters are coming to report a bad day on the bike and we don't have those every day thankfully, you remember a bad driver quicker than 100 good ones that never register with you, as it should be

What you can do though is learn from some of the posts like the last tweet and the person mentioning taking the lane. Easier for some than others to be assertive on the road but you will learn from experience and grow in confidence.

breezy1985

ironictoaster wrote: »

New cyclist here. This thread scares the ****e out of me! Still a bit nervous on the road but getting better. I get extremely paranoid when I hear a car behind me just about to speed past me even in a well marked cycle lane.

99% of days are fine or maybe someone will annoy you with their driving but not endanger you

I commute through Limerick city and outside of certain roads during rush hour the streets are quiet and pretty safe and even during rush hour I rarely have problems

breezy1985

Stark wrote: »

Anyone recognise the *****?

https://twitter.com/rohal_/status/1291763711015882753?s=19

Clearly no accident he was trying to run you off into the side road. Glad your ok and did anyone stop to assist?

breezy1985

ironictoaster wrote: »

Thanks everyone. I am really enjoying it overall. The sense of freedom is great. Probably the best thing to come out of this pandemic for me.

Just out of interest what kinda cycling you doing. Rural or urban and fitness or commute?

VonLuck

ironictoaster wrote: »

New cyclist here. This thread scares the ****e out of me! Still a bit nervous on the road but getting better. I get extremely paranoid when I hear a car behind me just about to speed past me even in a well marked cycle lane.

I've been cycling daily in Dublin for the past 15 years and have only ever had two 'bad' incidents. One was where the passenger in a stopped car opened the door without looking. Thankfully I stayed on my bike (although the bike was almost vertical), but ended up breaking my brakes! The second one was a woman who just walked out onto the road without looking and I absolutely floored her. Even though it was her fault I could feel everyone's eyes piercing through me.

If you take the approach that you're invisible to everyone and behave with that in mind you should be fine.

[Deleted User]

Fairly classic near left hook today;

https://streamable.com/5k9b2f

I was just lucky that I was far enough forward for him to see me through the window at the last moment, because he certainly wasn't checking his mirror and didn't bother indicating before crossing the cycle lane.

The other cyclist told me that he nearly ran up my arse when I jammed on.

micar

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Fairly classic near left hook today;

https://streamable.com/5k9b2f

I was just lucky that I was far enough forward for him to see me through the window at the last moment, because he certainly wasn't checking his mirror and didn't bother indicating before crossing the cycle lane.

The other cyclist told me that he nearly ran up my arse when I jammed on.

I can never understand why motorists don't think....."where is the cyclist that I pass 18 seconds ago?"

I think some believe they are passing a stationary object that they no longer need to consider

breezy1985

ironictoaster wrote: »

Fitness really or just cycling just for fun. I cycle around Blanchardstown, Castleknock and Phoenix Park.

Don't know much about the first 2 but phoenix park sounds like fun

kenmm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Fairly classic near left hook today;

https://streamable.com/5k9b2f

I was just lucky that I was far enough forward for him to see me through the window at the last moment, because he certainly wasn't checking his mirror and didn't bother indicating before crossing the cycle lane.

The other cyclist told me that he nearly ran up my arse when I jammed on.

I tend to back off a little or get a head if it looks like I am going to be in a vehicles blind spot (you pretty much were as you hit the junction). You can't trust indicators (or lack of them).

micar wrote: »

I can never understand why motorists don't think....."where is the cyclist that I pass 18 seconds ago?"

I think some believe they are passing a stationary object that they no longer need to consider

Some people just arent that observant. Its a skill all road users need to practice.

[Deleted User]

kenmm wrote: »

I tend to back off a little or get a head if it looks like I am going to be in a vehicles blind spot (you pretty much were as you hit the junction). You can't trust indicators (or lack of them).

Absolutely agree on the indicators - I saw this coming and was prepared for him to cut me up, so it wasn't a huge surprise.

kenmm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Absolutely agree on the indicators - I saw this coming and was prepared for him to cut me up, so it wasn't a huge surprise.

Don't take this the wrong way then - but why be right in the blindspot? And what was the exchange after. The guy made a mistake and immediately apologised. None of this defends sloppy driving of course, but a gesticulation after an incident just reinforces the 'Angry asshole cyclist' stereotype and more likely to lead to a confrontation further down the line..

I say this for the benefit of to the new cyclists here - that this is a classic incident that on first glance may put someone off cycling, but on closer inspection, there was no danger and tbh the risk could be even further reduced by easing off a little - especially in Ranelagh which is a known busy section, with many distractions for drivers and cyclists alike to contend with.

DelBoy Trotter

kenmm wrote: »

Don't take this the wrong way then - but why be right in the blindspot? And what was the exchange after. The guy made a mistake and immediately apologised. None of this defends sloppy driving of course, but a gesticulation after an incident just reinforces the 'Angry asshole cyclist' stereotype and more likely to lead to a confrontation further down the line..

I say this for the benefit of to the new cyclists here - that this is a classic incident that on first glance may put someone off cycling, but on closer inspection, there was no danger and tbh the risk could be even further reduced by easing off a little - especially in Ranelagh which is a known busy section, with many distractions for drivers and cyclists alike to contend with.

I’d thank this post multiple times if I could, it’s bang on the money

DelBoy Trotter

magicbastarder wrote: »

it's a gesticulation, you can't tell from the video whether it was angry or not. the first appears to be a 'you what?' gesture and the second is a open handed, palm out gesture which i certainly wouldn't interpret as angry or aggressive, i'd often use it myself as an acknowledgement or an 'ah, it's grand' gesture?

But what is the actual point of putting yourself in that position when you know what’s about to happen? Being safe is a lot more important than proving you’re in the right

kenmm

magicbastarder wrote: »

it's a gesticulation, you can't tell from the video whether it was angry or not. the first appears to be a 'you what?' gesture and the second is a open handed, palm out gesture which i certainly wouldn't interpret as angry or aggressive, i'd often use it myself as an acknowledgement or an 'ah, it's grand' gesture?

I didn't say or interpret it as angry, how could I?

But others might. And it's a stereotype for many people.

Anyway, the main point was, why not pull back a bit / read the road further ahead, especially in small busy streets.

kenmm

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

But what is the actual point of putting yourself in that position when you know what’s about to happen? Being safe is a lot more important than proving you’re in the right

Unfortunately it took me far too long to realise that!