mcmoustache wrote: » Now that I think of it, I also don't recall anyone in authority encouraging lockdown protests here either. Sure, we had Gemma, but you can't really compare a US President to some incoherent contrarian. I wonder if those actions would cause an increase or a decrease in the spread.
Kidchameleon wrote: » Sweden fared much better than many European countries without a lock down.
timsey tiger wrote: » You're point being?
Kidchameleon wrote: » I don't think it is wise to compare countries because of the multitude of details that can effect figures (density and landmass are only two factors, what about population age, education, tourism etc etc I could go on all night) Here are some figures for deaths per 1 million population. Note that there are several European countries worse off than the US San Marino: 1,238 Belgium: 850 UK: 683 Andorra: 673 Spain: 610 Italy: 582 Sweden: 570 USA: 486
mcmoustache wrote: » True. But if I need a doctor in Sweden, I can go see one, whatever my income level. The US has no such luxury. Do you think Trump encouraging those protests had a positive effect on how the US has handled this pandemic?
Kidchameleon wrote: » That lock down may not have been necessary. Especially when you consider the coming economic fallout and death toll from suicides, cancelled medical procedures etc as a result.. If we can compare countries then why does Sweden appear 7th in the list of European countries pertaining to deaths per 1 million population?
Deleted User wrote: » Yep, they rank alongside the worst hit countries. But unlike most of them, the US numbers are still rapidly growing.
Kidchameleon wrote: » So we should not compare countries without considering all of the variables, that is my point.
Deleted User wrote: » It's pretty clear why they're 7th, they also stated their policy was rather faulty. Their numbers are far greater than their neighbours so it is viewed as somewhat of an irresponsible policy. Now which country is the fastest growing for deaths? The US... Your propaganda mode for Trump is not arguing a great case.
Kidchameleon wrote: » Indeed, numbers will grow in certain areas for a number of reasons, not necessarily due to mis management.
salmocab wrote: » In fairness San Marino and Andorra are statistical anomaly’s. There are some countries worse off, I don’t think anyone has argued otherwise, also some countries are in different stages of this and it won’t be until the dust settles that direct comparisons can really be drawn and as most ‘western countries’ have a bit of a handle on this I’d think that America will not come out too far from the top of deaths per million table, Trump has been claiming they are doing great when the numbers show it to be quite the opposite. He’s either lying or is being fed bad information, neither should be acceptable in a leader.
Kidchameleon wrote: » No need for this
Deleted User wrote: » Feel free to give some evidence that the the federal government has effective policy against the Coronavirus. Also worth remembering that they're currently banned from most of the EU. That's as a result of their disastrous policy.
Kidchameleon wrote: » Indeed, might be another reason why from our vantage point, things seem worse in the US at the moment.
Kidchameleon wrote: » As I have said earlier, there is only so much that can be done at a federal level. Some of the worst hit states are run by the democrats. New York being a prime example with Cuomo trying to block Trumps travel restrictions in March (linked earlier)
Kidchameleon wrote: » Of course, I as a Trump supporter interpreted it differently than many of his opponents. I felt that Swan was not a great interviewer, he had very aggressive body language from the start. He kept banging on about the New York figures and comparing apples with oranges. New York cannot be compared to Japan or South Korea (like Swan was attempting). There are too many variables at play. I personally feel that whilst the pandemic is bad, it is not near as bad as it is being made out to be. Look at Sweden, they are doing great & so is their economy. People need to remember, President Trump has much more to worry about when it comes to lock downs, he has to factor in his economy. If you look at the deaths per million, he is not doing so bad. There is only so much he can do at a federal level. Look at the states worst effected by the pandemic, many of the are run by democrats! When Trump tried to take action in March to help New York what did Cuomo do??https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-filing-lawsuit-against-trump-administration-over-assault-new-york[/quote you brushed over the interview fairly quickly. Any insight into why trump couldn't string a sentance or a coherant answer. is he that weak that an interview can bully him into falling to pieces.
Gruffalox wrote: » Why oh why oh why oh why do they have to pick this guy?https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1291060107611181058?s=19
jamule wrote: » Kidchameleon wrote: » Of course, I as a Trump supporter interpreted it differently than many of his opponents. I felt that Swan was not a great interviewer, he had very aggressive body language from the start. He kept banging on about the New York figures and comparing apples with oranges. New York cannot be compared to Japan or South Korea (like Swan was attempting). There are too many variables at play. I personally feel that whilst the pandemic is bad, it is not near as bad as it is being made out to be. Look at Sweden, they are doing great & so is their economy. People need to remember, President Trump has much more to worry about when it comes to lock downs, he has to factor in his economy. If you look at the deaths per million, he is not doing so bad. There is only so much he can do at a federal level. Look at the states worst effected by the pandemic, many of the are run by democrats! When Trump tried to take action in March to help New York what did Cuomo do??https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-filing-lawsuit-against-trump-administration-over-assault-new-york you brushed over the interview fairly quickly. Any insight into why trump couldn't string a sentance or a coherant answer. is he that weak that an interview can bully him into falling to pieces.
Kidchameleon wrote: » Of course, I as a Trump supporter interpreted it differently than many of his opponents. I felt that Swan was not a great interviewer, he had very aggressive body language from the start. He kept banging on about the New York figures and comparing apples with oranges. New York cannot be compared to Japan or South Korea (like Swan was attempting). There are too many variables at play. I personally feel that whilst the pandemic is bad, it is not near as bad as it is being made out to be. Look at Sweden, they are doing great & so is their economy. People need to remember, President Trump has much more to worry about when it comes to lock downs, he has to factor in his economy. If you look at the deaths per million, he is not doing so bad. There is only so much he can do at a federal level. Look at the states worst effected by the pandemic, many of the are run by democrats! When Trump tried to take action in March to help New York what did Cuomo do??https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-filing-lawsuit-against-trump-administration-over-assault-new-york
Overheal wrote: » Because he was the most well liked by America's primary voters, and he also happens to be exceptionally qualified.
Gruffalox wrote: » He is really terrible. It is unfortunate.
Overheal wrote: » Is that all you had to add?
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