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beef price tracker

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any interest in having a factory beef price tracker on here?

got 4 hiefers to go, 3rs and 1o

got the following quotes for base price on Mon 23 Jan

4.10e/kg aibp bandon
4.15e/kg aibp cahir

quotes including bord bia
am holding tough as hoping for 4.25e/kg

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morphy87

When there would be a scarce or in demand, I often get no weight cuts,transport and flat prices unfortunately this ain’t to often

Good loser

Cahir wouldn't pay me €3.75 last week and (potentially) this week.

kevthegaff

I have 2 old stock bulls fresian and angus, where is the best place to bring them around tipp?

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Roscrea.

mahoney_j

kevthegaff wrote: »

I have 2 old stock bulls fresian and angus, where is the best place to bring them around tipp?

100% the mart Kev took my 4 year old Hereford to nenagh last Tuesday 920 kg 1485 euro

memorystick

mahoney_j wrote: »

100% the mart Kev took my 4 year old Hereford to nenagh last Tuesday 920 kg 1485 euro

Exactly. Maybe that dealer who bought the bull last week and killed him the following day and got over €500 for himself might be there and then we can give out about dealers riding farmers.

tanko

memorystick wrote: »

Exactly. Maybe that dealer who bought the bull last week and killed him the following day and got over €500 for himself might be there and then we can give out about dealers riding farmers.

If that story is true then the farmer selling the bull didn’t know the worth of what he was selling.
In that case the auctioneer and dealer might have a very cosy relationship and the farmer was asleep in the sellers box.
I wouldn’t trust some auctioneers as far as i’d throw them.

mahoney_j

tanko wrote: »

If that story is true then the farmer selling the bull didn’t know the worth of what he was selling.
In that case the auctioneer and dealer might have a very cosy relationship and the farmer was asleep in the sellers box.
I wouldn’t trust some auctioneers as far as i’d throw them.

There’s times of the year and ainmals I’d go to mart with and others I’d avoid it like the plague I was happy with above know little to nothing about factory or what I’d of got but couldn’t of seen a 48 month old bull comming to much or any more if I went that route .marts are nesecary and great outlet for stock but certain dealers and auctioneers and what’s let go on is infuriating

Bass Reeves

mahoney_j wrote: »

There’s times of the year and ainmals I’d go to mart with and others I’d avoid it like the plague I was happy with above know little to nothing about factory or what I’d of got but couldn’t of seen a 48 month old bull comming to much or any more if I went that route .marts are nesecary and great outlet for stock but certain dealers and auctioneers and what’s let go on is infuriating

Your bull made near enough 3/kg unless he.killed 55+%. You would not get it in the factory not for a single stock bull anyway.

Panch18

Good loser wrote: »

Cahir wouldn't pay me €3.75 last week and (potentially) this week.

Cahir are gone to the dogs for paying in the last few years - so much so that despite being a few miles from there we haven't sent cattle or cows there in a few years

You'd be better off looking elsewhere i'd say

Panch18

Sold a AA bull at the mart last week - 1020kg for 1,650. Was happy with that.

If going to the factory then Roscrea is the place for those bulls - apparently

patsy_mccabe

Local guy here getting 3.75 flat for angus for u30 months. Not bad when AA bonus is included.

cute geoge

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Local guy here getting 3.75 flat for angus for u30 months. Not bad when AA bonus is included.

Is he a big supplier ,

Bass Reeves

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Local guy here getting 3.75 flat for angus for u30 months. Not bad when AA bonus is included.

Would not consider that great. Would expect most AA's to grade O+/R. Usually a flat price includes all bonuses.

Any O+bullock grading O+ at a base of 3.7/kg would be making 3.78, add AA bonus and he be at 3.88/kg

patsy_mccabe

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Would not consider that great. Would expect most AA's to grade O+/R. Usually a flat price includes all bonuses.

Any O+bullock grading O+ at a base of 3.7/kg would be making 3.78, add AA bonus and he be at 3.88/kg

No, should have said 3.75 base plus all bonuses. O grades will get R price too.
Not familiar with factory jargon. Don't factory here.

morphy87

Steers 3.80 south east plus bonus payments and Qa bonus

weatherbyfoxer

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Would not consider that great. Would expect most AA's to grade O+/R. Usually a flat price includes all bonuses.

Any O+bullock grading O+ at a base of 3.7/kg would be making 3.78, add AA bonus and he be at 3.88/kg

dawn paying 20c for aa once O- or better.

Bass Reeves

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

dawn paying 20c for aa once O- or better.

Is that to 30 or 36 months

Neddyusa

Many qualify for the new beef compensation payment?
I had a load of cattle that missed out by a week in the previous scheme. Had a load miss out by 1 day this time.... on the bright side I'm getting closer!

Neddyusa

Neddyusa wrote: »

Many qualify for the new beef compensation payment?
I had a load of cattle that missed out by a week in the previous scheme. Had a load miss out by 1 day this time.... on the bright side I'm getting closer!

1st Feb to 12th June is the period. And €100/hd is the rate

Dunedin

Neddyusa wrote: »

1st Feb to 12th June is the period. And €100/hd is the rate

Where did you see that. I was watching out for the details but saw nothing.

ruwithme

What twisted logic do they use to arrive at these dates?

Or as the anglo irish lad once or twice maybe said "picked it out of my arse "

Neddyusa

Dunedin wrote: »

Where did you see that. I was watching out for the details but saw nothing.

Beef Finishers Payment (BFP) €100 per animal.
The opening date for applications will be 19 August 2020 and the closing date will be 9 September 2020.
https://t.co/jl4CY7z16x

DBK1

Neddyusa wrote: »

Many qualify for the new beef compensation payment?
I had a load of cattle that missed out by a week in the previous scheme. Had a load miss out by 1 day this time.... on the bright side I'm getting closer!

I had a load miss out by 1 day as well, it’s annoying. I missed the last one by 3 days so like yourself I’m getting closer!! It’s still welcome to be getting it for what was killed in the time frame. Will there be any conditions like the last time I wonder?

jntsnk

DBK1 wrote: »

I had a load miss out by 1 day as well, it’s annoying. I missed the last one by 3 days so like yourself I’m getting closer!! It’s still welcome to be getting it for what was killed in the time frame. Will there be any conditions like the last time I wonder?

Eligible animals

Slaughtered in the reference period of 1 February to 12 June 2020.
Aged 8 months or more when slaughtered
Resident on the qualifying herd for at least 30 days prior to slaughter (if not the previous owner is eligible for payment if they are an applicant and have had the animal for over 30 days on their holding)
Animals identified on the Department systems as presented for slaughter by or on behalf of a factory will not be eligible.
Subject to a cap on payments in respect of 100 eligible animals per herd.
Eligible applicants:
A farmer who has presented animals for slaughter in the reference period
The holder of an active herd number with Herd Owner Status.
Farming a holding in respect of which a valid Basic Payment Scheme application has been submitted in 2020 to the Department.
Agent or Dealer herd numbers are not eligible for payment
Conditionality: Applicant must be a member of the Bord Bia Beef and Lamb Quality Assurance Scheme at the time of application, or undertake to become a member of a quality scheme prior to 30 September 2020.

weatherbyfoxer

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Is that to 30 or 36 months

30 afaik

wrangler

ruwithme wrote: »

What twisted logic do they use to arrive at these dates?

Or as the anglo irish lad once or twice maybe said "picked it out of my arse "

TBF it would be one of the higher cost times of the year to produce beef

Green&Red

Never mind the dates where is the rhyme or reason for the scheme?

Why are finishers being rewarded over sucklers or dairy or sheep men?
Beef prices weren’t down
If farmers are honest this hasn’t really affected us that much, if at all. In fact it’s been a good year to date. I’ve had to buy heifers this summer and they were dear. Equally I sold a few suckler cows and got a good price for them.

Personally, out of any year it’s a good year for me for this “scheme”, I’m getting out of beef so have been killing all year where previously I would have sold them younger. So I’ll do well out of it but it annoys me to see a scheme that has no real reasoning behind it

epfff

Beef prices weren’t down
If farmers are honest this hasn’t really affected us that much, if at all. In fact it’s been a good year to date. /quote]

Beef prices weren't down?

I got 375 base pre lockdown

The week of lockdown I couldn't get cattle killed because I was told that there was no catering demand in UK and that was where majority of Irish beef was going

Following weeks I was taking 340 base

Are you telling me 375 base is equal to 340 base?
In my book that's 35c and on 350kg is €120 a head

Green&Red

epfff wrote: »

Beef prices weren’t down
If farmers are honest this hasn’t really affected us that much, if at all. In fact it’s been a good year to date. /quote]

Beef prices weren't down?

I got 375 base pre lockdown

The week of lockdown I couldn't get cattle killed because I was told that there was no catering demand in UK and that was where majority of Irish beef was going

Following weeks I was taking 340 base

Are you telling me 375 base is equal to 340 base?
In my book that's 35c and on 350kg is €120 a head

In the first week maybe but I sent cattle March 10th and got 375 base. That’s six weeks after the start of this scheme.