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Gangland Shootings part 3 - Read OP before posting - updated 27/12/23

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blondebomber8

yaknowski wrote: »

Is that Mark Gavin from Elmdale, brother of Joey Gavin?

Mark is not to be messed with, he ran a wing in the midlands with Johny mangan years ago.

yaknowski

Lord_Slong wrote: »

That's him, but there's an article I'm specifically looking for it's of him beaten a guy named Mark Gavin up in prison but I can't find it anywhere was just seeing if any of you could help

Is that Mark Gavin from Elmdale, brother of Joey Gavin?

MTKcleaners

Jizique wrote: »

https://m.herald.ie/news/former-ira-man-and-smuggler-hunt-dies-of-heart-attack-38812976.html

Has to be this guy; the murder of Vinny Ryan comes up when you put his name into google for some unusual reason

yep add a JG and a McB and a Dickie bird and you are on to a winning combination

MTKcleaners

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

'Baked Beans' is back from Spain. Was the main man in Malahide/Rush/Lusk/Bettystown for many years. I presume he will either keep a low profile, or get back in with the BallyF crew. Keeping a very low profile these days. Discretion seems to be the key. No fan of ears though by all accounts. Prefers to deal with 'Antarctic birds'

Might make ears shiver a bit, its cold in the Antartic.:p

Ciro Di Marzio

Davidplat wrote: »

The kids in darndale where shot/shot at a few weeks back. Apart from chaseing the one man through town and burning a horse their has not been much revenge

CL2 was shot in the legs punishment style and drove himself to a hospital. The point being made was not that these kids can’t be shot or the retribution will be instant and fatal. It was that these kids hang around openly out in their estates, same places, same times, street dealing etc. Even at that, the average person who may have an issue with them might think oh why doesn’t someone just go up and put a bullet in their head. They are easy to targets and physically not even fully developed...but I certainly wouldn’t drive into Moatview/Darndale/Rathoath and do it. And yes as mentioned WOC(if related to shooting) was chased through town with a knife while with his kids and Hotdog had his horse burned.

In contrast to get someone like Guinea Pig, who was a physically formidable psychopath known for murder and extreme violence, with a range of family and gang connections to other murderers and serious gang criminals, who has survived numerous previous assassinations, who has killed the last person who went to and tried to shoot at him ...and who takes measures to avoid being shot I.e. not getting into scenarios with people he doesn’t know, wearing bulletproof vest, carrying or having guns or weapons close by him ...............well it simply explains the case of why he lasted so long. Despite numerous posts from people saying they ‘didn’t buy it’ that he lasted out of fear...’someone should have just walked up and shot him’ and so on. I also made reference to some other serious figures too to drive the point home how numerous people wanted them dead long term..yet they are still alive. Connections, fear of reprisals, the persons own safety measures and a multitude of other reasons all factor in. So people can buy it or not buy it all they want...there are many hated figures in the city’s crime circles that have committed heinous acts that deserve death and who many people want to kill, in some cases they are put down...job done, simple. But in many cases...not so. Guinea Pig being one for nearly 17 years. But long runs the fox, he got it in the end. Like Lawlor too.

MTKcleaners

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

Another case of a feared enforcer setup by someone he trusted rather than just hit randomly. Makes sense though to round it all off that Guinea Pig had blamed Cannon for shooting him at the traffic lights in Tallaght. Solved !

Spot on there mate, just look at Paddy Doyle in Spain, and Colin Smith in scouseland, both setup by cancer as he was getting afraid of their size, and wanted the scouse shipping routes for himself.

Davidplat

Jake Kearney received 5 years for the pistol , hooefuly he will sort his head out when he gets out of prison and stays away from the gangland stuff . Known jake for a number of years and he is not cut out for this life style , bad coke head , but he's a nice guy , he wasn't going to use the pistol it was being delivered to Steve little who I can imagine will also receive a similar sentence

Davidplat

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

Go up and try put a bullet in one of the baby Flashys heads up in Coolock or Finglas and see how you get on ... not to mind someone like Guinea Pig, Wayne McNally, Freddie Thompson or the likes ...

The kids in darndale where shot/shot at a few weeks back. Apart from chaseing the one man through town and burning a horse their has not been much revenge

beerbellybob

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Agree.

Many lies printed about AR.

Such as?

JohnnyFlash

'Baked Beans' is back from Spain. Was the main man in Malahide/Rush/Lusk/Bettystown for many years. I presume he will either keep a low profile, or get back in with the BallyF crew. Keeping a very low profile these days. Discretion seems to be the key. No fan of ears though by all accounts. Prefers to deal with 'Antarctic birds'

Jeff2

People might want to correct themselves with the name caolan smith.

Rather than Colin.

Don Logan

John_Gill wrote: »

Yeah man. I was in school with his bird at the time Sarah Jane Doyle. Mad ****. He went with her to her brothers fr the weekend and killed her brother and his missus and only for Sarah pretended she was dead she would have been gone too.then he got caught for the grangegorman murders of two old ladies IIRC

I still have nightmares about that fella, someone you’d stay clear of walking down the street if ya seen him. Ya those two old ladies weren’t right in the head I think they were schizophrenic which makes it worse that he mutilated them when they were asleep. He brought his child that he had from another girl down to the house where he killed the two Doyles and left her there after he took off up to Galway after the murders, not to mention Sarah was pregnant with his child aswell when he thought he killed her aswell. The streets were a lot safer once that nutter was put away

Jinglejangle69

Lord_Slong wrote: »

Because don't believe everything you read about Alan Ryan, there's old school elements that run Dublin. They stay out of sight and out of mind. That's all I'll be saying on that

Agree.

Many lies printed about AR.

John_Gill

Don Logan wrote: »

I know it’s not gang related but does anyone from Dublin remember Mark Nash? He’s one fella that just by looking at him scares the absolute s*** out of me. That picture of him walking out of the courthouse in Galway where he’s crying and his hair all over the place sends shivers down my spine

Yeah man. I was in school with his bird at the time Sarah Jane Doyle. Mad ****. He went with her to her brothers fr the weekend and killed her brother and his missus and only for Sarah pretended she was dead she would have been gone too.then he got caught for the grangegorman murders of two old ladies IIRC

SSLil

Did anything ever happen to Guinea Pig's cousin who gave evidence against him?

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/drugs-deal-that-ended-in-death-in-an-icy-canal-26246070.html

Lord_Slong

Jizique wrote: »

https://m.herald.ie/news/former-ira-man-and-smuggler-hunt-dies-of-heart-attack-38812976.html

Has to be this guy; the murder of Vinny Ryan comes up when you put his name into google for some unusual reason

Because don't believe everything you read about Alan Ryan, there's old school elements that run Dublin. They stay out of sight and out of mind. That's all I'll be saying on that

Lord_Slong

Madmax03 wrote: »

I know Sean wanted him done too but so did the Crumlin crew

Our wires are crossed I think. Who are you implying is the person Sean and the Crumlin lads wanted done?

Lfc1988

Lord_Slong wrote: »

Ciro Di Marzio to also back up the thing you were saying about Ballyfernot feuds being weird, Kevin Kenny was in that car with the Guinea Pig and Eric Wilson had a hand in taking the shooter down but a few years previous Eric killed Kevin's Brother: Martin Kenny in a petty row. Now there's another twisted tale for you.

And to add to that the reason MD was in KK’s car - they are / were cousins

Jizique

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

Any more clues on this Mr Big ?

https://m.herald.ie/news/former-ira-man-and-smuggler-hunt-dies-of-heart-attack-38812976.html

Has to be this guy; the murder of Vinny Ryan comes up when you put his name into google for some unusual reason

Madmax03

Lord_Slong wrote: »

He shot Gaynor for one Irelands real Mr Bigs who died just before Christmas this year. This man had respect and was not to be messed with, he got Keith to kill Gaynor because Gaynor ****ed up a hit in Tallaght.

I know Sean wanted him done too but so did the Crumlin crew

P.Walnuts

Lord_Slong wrote: »

He shot Gaynor for one Irelands real Mr Bigs who died just before Christmas this year. This man had respect and was not to be messed with, he got Keith to kill Gaynor because Gaynor ****ed up a hit in Tallaght.

That poor ****ing postman

Ciro Di Marzio

Lord_Slong wrote: »

He shot Gaynor for one Irelands real Mr Bigs who died just before Christmas this year. This man had respect and was not to be messed with, he got Keith to kill Gaynor because Gaynor ****ed up a hit in Tallaght.

Any more clues on this Mr Big ?

Ciro Di Marzio

Madmax03 wrote: »

He wasn't behind it . KW shot him . Him and his brothers were gun for hire for the Crumlin Crew .
KW also shot Gaynor as part of another hatred towards Gaynor for shooting at a member of Crumlin crew back in the early 00's

Well what you said there I think is what everyone had thought all along at face value. As you see in the above thread I shared article that said Guinea pig actually ordered the W’s to do it after blaming Cannon for trying to dust him in Tallaght the few years prior.

Cannon was one of those types where literally heaps of head wanted him done. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that anyone had been in Ballyer, Crumlin or South West had a reason to order it.

Lord_Slong

Madmax03 wrote: »

He wasn't behind it . KW shot him . Him and his brothers were gun for hire for the Crumlin Crew .
KW also shot Gaynor as part of another hatred towards Gaynor for shooting at a member of Crumlin crew back in the early 00's

He shot Gaynor for one Irelands real Mr Bigs who died just before Christmas this year. This man had respect and was not to be messed with, he got Keith to kill Gaynor because Gaynor ****ed up a hit in Tallaght.

Madmax03

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

Here’s one...do you know anything about MD being behind the Anthony Cannon murder? Was he subbed in by FT’s crew or any other background info?

He wasn't behind it . KW shot him . Him and his brothers were gun for hire for the Crumlin Crew .
KW also shot Gaynor as part of another hatred towards Gaynor for shooting at a member of Crumlin crew back in the early 00's

Lord_Slong

Ciro Di Marzio to also back up the thing you were saying about Ballyfernot feuds being weird, Kevin Kenny was in that car with the Guinea Pig and Eric Wilson had a hand in taking the shooter down but a few years previous Eric killed Kevin's Brother: Martin Kenny in a petty row. Now there's another twisted tale for you.

Ciro Di Marzio

Lord_Slong wrote: »

The article is pretty much spot on, that journalist has a good source.

Another case of a feared enforcer setup by someone he trusted rather than just hit randomly. Makes sense though to round it all off that Guinea Pig had blamed Cannon for shooting him at the traffic lights in Tallaght. Solved !

Noseygit

judaspig wrote: »

Is it AM?

Yes

Lord_Slong

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

https://m.herald.ie/news/how-guinea-pig-ordered-slaying-of-king-ratt-man-28001615.html

The article is pretty much spot on, that journalist has a good source.

The enlightened one

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

Those Griffin brothers you are talking about are different people and from the south inner city. We are talking about Christy Griffins crew from Sheriff Street area.

Ah, I see. That makes more sense.