hotmail.com wrote: » You know that we hear people calling Trump a dictator, time and time again.
hotmail.com wrote: » People can't wait to adjudge this as dictatorial. It's part of the hysteria around Trump that we've seen. Britain had no election for 8 years because of WW I and 10 years because of WW II.
Overheal wrote: » Who is we, and who mentioned it on this thread before post #192, which was you?
Leroy42 wrote: » Hotmail, do you understand what a dictator is and how they usually come to absolute power? There are usually laws their to stop them doing what they plan to do, until such time as they change the law or ignore it and get away with it. It was common practice (which I accept isn't the law) that candidates publish their tax returns. He didn't. It was common practice (which I accept isn't the law) that candidates put any investments into blinds trusts. He didn't. It was common practice (which I accept isn't the law) that candidates don't hire their family, he found a way around that by not paying Ivanka. It was illegal for a sitting POTUS to bribe a foreign country to investigate a US citizen, but the GOP stuck by him with the line the "I'm sure now he has learnt his lesson!" Federal officers are not supposed to be unmarked and use unmarked vehicles to detain citizens, yet it is happening in Portland. He may be stopped for doing this, but only because the system in place are robust enough.
hotmail.com wrote: » Does it matter anyway? Almost half of Americans don't even vote. They can't see a difference between the two parties.
hotmail.com wrote: » The point I was making was the usual over reaction and often hysteria to anything Trump does. This feeds the monster.
Overheal wrote: » Yep, he tested negative as a precondition for attending the rally (secret service and VIPs were all tested, his was negative at the time), and then, 12 days later on July 2nd he was checked into hospital for Covid-19. edit: he had tested positive on June 29 and admitted to hospital on July 2nd, https://www.foxnews.com/politics/herman-cain-hospitalized-after-testing-postive-for-coronavirus
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Can you show a sample or two of this happening in this thread?
hotmail.com wrote: » Oh so I'm supposed to believe now that all comments about Trump are calm, reasoned and proportionate?
hotmail.com wrote: » None of them things suggest absolute power. Perhaps you should revise despots. The public knew he didn't declare the stuff about his tax returns etc. They didn't care about that it seems.
Muahahaha wrote: » Thats sad about Hermain Cain. But it also shows the consequences of the gung ho Republican attitudes towards this virus thinking that it cant get them.I doubt we will hear any mention from Trump about this in the context of Cain attending his Tulsa rally, testing negative before and then positive soon after it. Even though Cain was there to support Trump himself. And right about now the Trump campaign will be digging up the legal disclaimer Cain and his family signed to indemnify the Trump campaign from legal action if any attendees catch the virus. Thats all the Trump campaign will care about, not that he is dead. He's just another useful idiot to them, completely disposable. Its sad that Cain and his family got sucked into the Trump rhetoric, had he stayed at home as per medical advice then he might be alive right now.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » I wonder if any journalist will have the guts to ask him at his next presser
Overheal wrote: » All the comments, where? Here? Twitter? Facebook? Can you focus on replying to the actual substance of posts here, in the now, rather than making strawman arguments about supposed, 'non-calm, unreasonable and disproportionate' posts that you seem unwilling to point directly to? You clearly would rather make a vague argument against the broad idea of such posts that according to your inference here, theoretically exist, somewhere, purely on the logic that 'not all posts about Trump can be calm, reasoned and proportionate,' rather than actually engaging in the current substantive conversation happening here and now, in this thread, instead of demanding users here engage you in a conversation about phantom arguments that Trump is a dictator that nobody here is making and indeed have not made in at least the past 7 months?
While Trump has refused to heed calls to invoke the Defense Production Act for the manufacture of PPE and COVID-19 testing supplies, he suddenly gifted Kodak, the camera people, with a $765M loan for a not-yet established division to start producing ingredients for pharmaceuticals. The Washington Post notes that the lender, U.S. International Development Finance Corporation, or DFC, “normally funds infrastructure and other projects in the developing world. But in an executive order signed in May, President Trump gave DFC new powers under the Defense Production Act to finance domestic health-care manufacturing needed to respond to the coronavirus crisis.” In his comments about the award, Trump praised the “extraordinary leadership” of Kodak and said they have hired “some of the best people in the world to be taking care of that company and watching that company, watching over it.” But Trump never said why Kodak, as opposed to any of the already-established pharmaceutical companies in the U.S., will make the best use of our $765 million.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Another possible reason why Trump is running the "ELECTION FRAUD!!!!" DistractionThere’s A Major Scandal Brewing In Trump’s Kodak Pharmaceutical Award So - On Tuesday , Trump awards Kodak a major loan/contract out of the blue and no one can quite follow why them out of all the other companies already involved in the sapce. The Kodak share price has been around $2.60 and the typical daily trading volume was between 50k and 200k shares. However on Monday , the day before the announcement , there were 1.6M shares traded. The share price today is just shy of $43!! I wonder who bought all those extra shares and how did they come to buy them the day before a massive Government contract was awarded??? As they say - Cui Bono ?
ExMachina1000 wrote: » I bought them. Happens all of the time.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Oh please - The Stock is up 1200% this week and amazingly the volume of traded stock jumped tenfold the day before a huge announcement. The most shares that had been traded in the stock in the previous month was 200k on the 2nd of July , and then the day before Trumps statement , 1.6M get traded and you think "that happens all the time"? It could be "just a coincidence" but as someone with a background in statistics , I would describe it as a significant data anomaly that requires detailed further investigation.
hotmail.com wrote: » Leroy42, the poster, is saying it right now.
Muahahaha wrote: » holy sh1t that is insider trading on an extreme level, those are overnight profits of 1,600% right there. Will the SEC open an investigation into that? And whatever happened those Republican senators found to be dumping stocks a couple of months back, think it was something about them knowing a lockdown was coming before everyone else and using that information to mitigate their losses on the markets.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Donald Rumsfeld and the missing 1 trillion dollars sort of stuff. The plane hit the office which had the filing cabinet where the information was stored
Muahahaha wrote: » Thats sad about Hermain Cain. But it also shows the consequences of the gung ho Republican attitudes towards this virus thinking that it cant get them.
President Barack Obama wrote: Even as we sit here, there are those in power who are doing their darnedest to discourage people from voting by closing polling locations and targeting minorities and students with restrictive I.D. Laws and attacking our voting rights with surgical precision, even undermining the postal service in the run-up to an election that’s going to be dependent on mail-in ballots, so people don’t get sick.
hotmail.com wrote: » But he can't is the point. Story over. Just because an election is delayed doesn't make him a dictator anyway.
Overheal wrote: » In other news, Michael Flynn's case is still on the books, and will be re-heard by the full bench of the DC circuit.
WASHINGTON — The entire Federal Appeals Court in Washington said on Thursday that it would take up a case involving Attorney General William P. Barr’s decision to drop the prosecution of President Trump’s former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn, erasing a split decision by a three-judge panel in June ordering an immediate end to the case. A terse order from the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said that a majority of its members had voted to vacate a June 24 panel decision ordering the immediate dismissal of the case against Mr. Flynn, and set oral arguments before the full court for Aug. 11.
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