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Random EV thoughts.....

Old diesel

The main motors forum has the motors chat thread for the little things one would like to say but might not justify a thread.

Thought it might be an idea for here re hybrids and EV stuff.....

To kick off - i wonder if a new measurement for EVs might be assuming a start trip at 100 percent......

A how much range do you get with a 15 minute stop.

With a 350 kw charging a Porsche Tayman might do very well with getting on for 400 miles...

A Leaf 62 not so good.

Obviously where a car can do more then 50 kw charging we would need both a 50 kw and a whatever the cars top rate is figure*.

*IF chargers are available

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ELM327

Cyrus wrote: »

polestar is a volvo though its not really representative of a chinese company or am i being unfair?

Volvo is a chinese company now afaik

Like JLR are owned by TATA

McGiver

unkel wrote: »

My thoughts too. We have already seen ample evidence of what happens when a car giant wakes up and seriously starts investing and then producing some quality EVs. VW is wide awake and gave us the eTron, the Taycan and now the ID.3. The Enyaq should be a proper Tesla Model Y competitor.

Hope the other car giants will follow, or they will die.

Well you bundle the whole VW together but Skoda has its own R&D, design independent of VW Deutschland etc in Czechia. Of course it's part of the VW but it doesn't equal the VW. Of course VW made a good move with the MEB platform, that will create efficiencies and synergies.

Happy to see Skoda Enyaq, Vision iV, plus PHEV models ramping up.

I see Enyaq as Kona competiror and Vision as Model Y competitor though.

Cyrus

Deleted User wrote: »

Especially when you consider that there are several Chines car makers out there who are starting to produce quality EV's.
The Polestar II being one of many coming our way.

polestar is a volvo though its not really representative of a chinese company or am i being unfair?

[Deleted User]

unkel wrote: »

Hope the other car giants will follow, or they will die.

Especially when you consider that there are several Chines car makers out there who are starting to produce quality EV's.
The Polestar II being one of many coming our way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cwD50F_RWw

Cyrus

unkel wrote: »

My thoughts too. We have already seen ample evidence of what happens when a car giant wakes up and seriously starts investing and then producing some quality EVs. VW is wide awake and gave us the eTron, the Taycan and now the ID.3. The Enyaq should be a proper Tesla Model Y competitor.

Hope the other car giants will follow, or they will die.

you would imagine that in 5 years time VW will have taken a proper foothold in the market, they are quite a bit ahead of mercedes, bmw et al

unkel

My thoughts too. We have already seen ample evidence of what happens when a car giant wakes up and seriously starts investing and then producing some quality EVs. VW is wide awake and gave us the eTron, the Taycan and now the ID.3. The Enyaq should be a proper Tesla Model Y competitor.

Hope the other car giants will follow, or they will die.

McGiver

liamog wrote: »

If they had implented 22kW AC charging instead of CHAdeMO then I wouldn't call them a scourge. You are not wrong though, it's still unrivaled in the affordable end of electrified cars that can tow. I wonder if the Enyaq will be the natural successor.

Enyaq is going to be good. Looking forward. The specs seem good. Not a fan of SUVs but this one is going to be so much better than Kona etc

unkel

Look the dimensions up for yourself if you don't trust me! Outlander is tall, as it is an SUV, but the footprint is small (smaller than Octavia), and that was what you were complaining about. Of course you are right that the car barely fitted in a car parking space. That's because those are designed for small cars from the 60s and cars have grown a bit since then

MJohnston

unkel wrote: »

The Outlander is smaller in foot print than a Skoda Octavia

You must have got your cars mixed up. Outlander is tiny!

Ugh, please, never describe an SUV as tiny.

liamog

Kramer wrote: »

Apart from the aged interior & a few other things I didn't like, I liked the Outlander PHEV & considered it in 2018. I drove Mitsubishi commercial 4x4s for years & found them very reliable too.

It had great space, could tow 1,500Kg & was affordable. Nothing much else had that, in either full BEV or PHEV.

If they had implented 22kW AC charging instead of CHAdeMO then I wouldn't call them a scourge. You are not wrong though, it's still unrivaled in the affordable end of electrified cars that can tow. I wonder if the Enyaq will be the natural successor.

unkel

The Outlander is smaller in foot print than a Skoda Octavia

You must have got your cars mixed up. Outlander is tiny!

MJohnston

unkel wrote: »

Outlander is not that big. Are you sure it wasn't a Tesla Model X you spotted?

Oh I’m sure there are bigger tanks out there for those who...well I can’t say anything charitable about the owners of these things, but the Outlander is maybe the one I see the most. Detestable thing.

unkel

Outlander is not that big. Are you sure it wasn't a Tesla Model X you spotted?

MJohnston

I despise all SUVs but the Outlander has to be one of the worst of them. Saw one at the charging spots in Dundrum once and it could barely fit into two spaces. American market designed utter ****e.

Kramer

liamog wrote: »

Finally an end to the scourge that is the Outlander :P

Apart from the aged interior & a few other things I didn't like, I liked the Outlander PHEV & considered it in 2018. I drove Mitsubishi commercial 4x4s for years & found them very reliable too.

It had great space, could tow 1,500Kg & was affordable. Nothing much else had that, in either full BEV or PHEV.

McGiver

liamog wrote: »

Finally an end to the scourge that is the Outlander :P
Mitsubishi are pulling out of Europe.

https://www.am-online.com/news/manufacturer/2020/07/27/mitsubishi-motors-in-the-uk-shares-unexpected-market-withdrawal-plan-with-dealers?fbclid=IwAR1YmTvOGMl62mFN9h6jRx_DPKB-18Wk8jZOpAD3shKCcqQmNB55OlsoDFU

The Outlander PHEV refresh is one of the models mentioned as being cut.

Excellent...

Nissan are surrounded like Hitler in April 1945. But they're still not giving up on Chademo (not completely).

liamog

Finally an end to the scourge that is the Outlander :P
Mitsubishi are pulling out of Europe.

https://www.am-online.com/news/manufacturer/2020/07/27/mitsubishi-motors-in-the-uk-shares-unexpected-market-withdrawal-plan-with-dealers?fbclid=IwAR1YmTvOGMl62mFN9h6jRx_DPKB-18Wk8jZOpAD3shKCcqQmNB55OlsoDFU

The Outlander PHEV refresh is one of the models mentioned as being cut.

unkel

All diesel cars are cancerous scams. Euro 6 is clean my bollocks. Can't wait for them to be banned.

KCross

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40020221.html

Surely they cant be this stupid to be producing cheat devices on euro 6 vehicles in 2019 given the heat that VW have had to endure over the last few years?!

innrain

That's pretty much.
I've heard rumors that the DCLite unit ( 44kW DC and 6Kw 3 phase AC) doesn't unlock the CSS plug easily; requires some fiddling with.

There are some videos on the ecars website. Maybe to make sure that you recognize the various plugs. I've seen someone complaining that his CCS car does not fast charge at the fast charger. Turned out he was using the the type2 cable. Not surprised cause when I bought my car the sales rep didn't know much about the fast chargers. They didn't show me a picture or how the charging port opens. Instead he connected my phone to the car's bluetooth.

There is another type of charges, rare so far, Tritium Veefil-RT 50kW (Easygo, Applegreen, CircleK (?) ) which usually are plug and play with the note that they are set to terminate the charging process at 80%. There is a setting on the charger to increase it to 100% should you wish.

It is good to know the charging curve for your car to optimize your stops https://support.fastned.nl/hc/en-gb/articles/360000815988-Charging-with-an-Audi-e-tron-Quattro?utm_source=WebEN-Car&utm_campaign=Klant-support&utm_medium=Hyper1

Cyrus

Is there a guide to the quirks of various charge points

For example esb ac you need to swipe your card before you plug in

IONITY I believe you can connect then start the charge

Anything else ?

innrain

Your provider and you have to ask. Also you have to make sure they applying it as the might "forget".

Sheep Shagger

MJohnston wrote: »

Cool thanks, amazing that they wouldn’t put that one line of info on their FAQ page about it!

Q, do you have to contact Eflow or your actualy toll tag provider? I changed our toll tag over last week to give them the new reg but didn't tell them explicitly that it was an EV.

MJohnston

slave1 wrote: »

You have to phone them and tell them it's an EV and you want the EV status for toll incentive pricing

Cool thanks, amazing that they wouldn’t put that one line of info on their FAQ page about it!

slave1

MJohnston wrote: »

eFlow don't seem to recognise my i3 as an EV, even though they list it as an i3. Should this be automatic or do I need to do something? Have I asked this question already? What day is it?

innrain wrote: »

Call them. I think I had to ring there times until I got the discount.

You have to phone them and tell them it's an EV and you want the EV status for toll incentive pricing

ELM327

MJohnston wrote: »

eFlow don't seem to recognise my i3 as an EV, even though they list it as an i3. Should this be automatic or do I need to do something? Have I asked this question already? What day is it?

Is it the BEV or the PHEV i3?

liamog

Annoyed at the gas pump emoji? Sign this petition so we can have a charging station instead https://www.change.org/p/unicode-consortium-electrify-america-is-launching-a-campaign-to-establish-an-ev-charger-emoji?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=custom_url&recruited_by_id=c503f6a0-a424-11e9-acd0-c17bc8ab4fd6

innrain

Call them. I think I had to ring there times until I got the discount.

MJohnston

eFlow don't seem to recognise my i3 as an EV, even though they list it as an i3. Should this be automatic or do I need to do something? Have I asked this question already? What day is it?

unkel

Aye, I get the full toll discount (I pay €2.10 toll minus €1.58 discount off peak) and these both hit my account within seconds of passing the toll

Doesn't work for me on the M4 toll though, I have to stop at the booth and read out my tag number to the operator