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Hi Had a letter from Social Protection inviting me to participate on a TUS Programme. I have done an internet search and there seems to be very little "chatter" about it from people who have been on it, does anyone have any experience of it? I know how much it pays and a broad idea of what type of jobs etc, but would like some first hand experience from people in the know. Sounds a bit like a CE Scheme.

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Dude19

See what happened is my employer only started calling me last week and emailing me and because I was in hospital he started to threaten me and black mail me I've 21 days left on the scheme and he's making it so impossible saying I'll be punished for nine weeks

[Deleted User]

Dude19 wrote: »

See what happened is my employer only started calling me last week and emailing me and because I was in hospital he started to threaten me and black mail me I've 21 days left on the scheme and he's making it so impossible saying I'll be punished for nine weeks

I’m beginning to realise that you’re a wind up merchant. Enjoy.

segosego89

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m beginning to realise that you’re a wind up merchant. Enjoy.

Are you saying that he's making this stuff up or that he's winding up his employer?

Dude19

segosego89 wrote: »

Are you saying that he's making this stuff up or that he's winding up his employer?

****off all of you

segosego89

Dude19 wrote: »

****off all of you

I was just trying to understand what MaryAnne84 was trying to say. I certainly didn't want to come across that I was agreeing with her in any way nor was I trying to offend you.

teddyhead

segosego89 wrote: »

That's not true at all - I've seen Tus participants doing landscaping work/litter picking around my town regularly during the pandemic. These are guys that are working in close proximity to one another a lot of the time. I'm very surprised by it actually. Is landscaping work etc so incredibly important that people's health should be put at risk by it?

Its a fact alright.Many CE scheme workers are already back to work. Not just landscaping but people in charity shops , whos job is to sort through occasionally dirty clothes/bric brac.

Intreo have told me that there are no special guidlines or info for CE workers. Just talk to your boss , is the advice. There is usually actually no boss/supervisor around the place either. And we are meant to guide members of the public around the place.
I am very worried about going back to work in a gallery. Was not sent any questionaire about my circumstances ,which is mandated by the HSA. The gallery is an old 'historic' building with narrow stairways and tiny rooms.

segosego89

teddyhead wrote: »

Its a fact alright.Many CE scheme workers are already back to work. Not just landscaping but people in charity shops , whos job is to sort through occasionally dirty clothes/bric brac.

Intreo have told me that there are no special guidlines or info for CE workers. Just talk to your boss , is the advice. There is usually actually no boss/supervisor around the place either. And we are meant to guide members of the public around the place.
I am very worried about going back to work in a gallery. Was not sent any questionaire about my circumstances ,which is mandated by the HSA. The gallery is an old 'historic' building with narrow stairways and tiny rooms.

Is your gallery job so important that your health should be put at risk? There's been talk of a second wave of Covid-19 that is expected to happen and I really can't understand why some Tus scheme workers have been forced to work throughout the pandemic. I saw those Tus landscape workers at least two months ago well in the middle of the pandemic so it wasn't a recent thing that I saw.

It's not like the economy will crash if Tus scheme workers are prevented from working until it's completely safe for them to be in an environment that forces them to be in close proximity with other people.

I have a funny feeling that these people don't know how to complain about these kinds of things? Like, they are just used to being pushed around by Department Of Social Welfare and do what they're told without question...

alanzo27

I was asked to return to work by the manager of the charity shop I had been in before the pandemic earlier this month. As we were in Phase 2 at the time I was not taking the risk as I have underlying health issues and live with my parents who are over 70, one of which has several underlying health concerns.

I was sent out a questionnaire last week from my TÚS Supervisor in relation to Covid-19 to determine if I am at risk that would prevent me from returning. I have since completed and returned it but haven't heard anything back so far. I have asked my supervisor if there is alternative work available for me as I would not be comfortable going back due to the shop being located in an extremely cramped building with little room to move. Social distancing would be nearly impossible without a complete change in layout which I doubt will happen. It also looks like no precautionary measures have been implemented and no changes have been made to adapt.

segosego89

alanzo27 wrote: »

I was asked to return to work by the manager of the charity shop I had been in before the pandemic earlier this month. As we were in Phase 2 at the time I was not taking the risk as I have underlying health issues and live with my parents who are over 70, one of which has several underlying health concerns.

I was sent out a questionnaire last week from my TÚS Supervisor in relation to Covid-19 to determine if I am at risk that would prevent me from returning. I have since completed and returned it but haven't heard anything back so far. I have asked my supervisor if there is alternative work available for me as I would not be comfortable going back due to the shop being located in an extremely cramped building with little room to move. Social distancing would be nearly impossible without a complete change in layout which I doubt will happen. It also looks like no precautionary measures have been implemented and no changes have been made to adapt.

What was his response when you asked for alternative work in a safer environment?

alanzo27

segosego89 wrote: »

What was his response when you asked for alternative work in a safer environment?

There is no alternative at the moment. I got a phone call today and I'm due to return next week.

segosego89

alanzo27 wrote: »

There is no alternative at the moment. I got a phone call today and I'm due to return next week.

Is there a way to complain to a higher up person about the situation?

You have stated that you have parents that are in their 70's that would be at high risk if they were to contract the virus. Seems a bit odd that the powers that be are so determined to get Tus participants working during this Covid 19 thing. It's not extremely essential work and makes me think that they are just trying to get the most free work that they can possibly get from participants within their year long contact...

I would fight a bit more to prevent myself from being put in that situation described by yourself especially for my parents sake.

scamalert

segosego89 wrote: »

Is there a way to complain to a higher up person about the situation?

You have stated that you have parents that are in their 70's that would be at high risk if they were to contract the virus. Seems a bit odd that the powers that be are so determined to get Tus participants working during this Covid 19 thing. It's not extremely essential work and makes me think that they are just trying to get the most free work that they can possibly get from participants within their year long contact...

I would fight a bit more to prevent myself from being put in that situation described by yourself especially for my parents sake.

well businesses are open now as usual, yes many claim they have protective measures in place which is window dressing in all of them to be fair. I did Tus good few years back its f all experience and waste of time at the end of day, but then again as ****ty it can be its still a job given, so question would be would one say same to their employer that theres covid going on and they wont be back for couple years, as this crap will last longer then most expect, since risk wont be any lesser 2-3 months from now.

as i know i hated mine every day, but managed to use up all the holidays, get training done safe pass other courses that would costed me to, better myself and cut out nice chunk of time before i finished it, which worked out not a complete waste.

crossmolinalad

Dude19 wrote: »

I was cleaning the bathrooms front entrance back entrance kitchen bar area hall floor and back hall supposed to be 19.5 hours a week only done 40 minutes at a time and when I'd run short of cleaning products I'd get no response or anything he was starting to show up to my house and texting me at all hours of the day too so glad I droppedout

Doing a clubhouse on CE 40 minutes is inposible to clean a clubhouse
19.5 hours is for me to short to clean the clubhouse ib work in

segosego89

crossmolinalad wrote: »

Doing a clubhouse on CE 40 minutes is inposible to clean a clubhouse
19.5 hours is for me to short to clean the clubhouse ib work in

What do you actually need to do when taking care of a clubhouse on the CE scheme? I'd imagine cleaning floors and bathrooms are a couple of things that you'd do but what else do you do? Do you have to cut grass etc?

crossmolinalad

segosego89 wrote: »

What do you actually need to do when taking care of a clubhouse on the CE scheme? I'd imagine cleaning floors and bathrooms are a couple of things that you'd do but what else do you do? Do you have to cut grass etc?

cleaning only im talking about and if you do it right you cant do that in 40 minutes
If you can its not clean and not done to cleaning code

Dude19

Anyone who is on the tus scheme can leave the scheme early in did by a few weeks my jsb payment was paid a week later my tus employer turned very nasty towards the end iv gotten part time work with a very decent women

[Deleted User]

Dude19 wrote: »

Anyone who is on the tus scheme can leave the scheme early in did by a few weeks my jsb payment was paid a week later my tus employer turned very nasty towards the end iv gotten part time work with a very decent women

Good for you. Onwards and upwards.

segosego89

Dude19 wrote: »

Anyone who is on the tus scheme can leave the scheme early in did by a few weeks my jsb payment was paid a week later my tus employer turned very nasty towards the end iv gotten part time work with a very decent women

Good to hear you've made progress. Can I ask how long were you on the scheme before you left? Did you only leave a few weeks before your time on the scheme was going to end?

Dude19

segosego89 wrote: »

Good to hear you've made progress. Can I ask how long were you on the scheme before you left? Did you only leave a few weeks before your time on the scheme was going to end?

I had six or 8 weeks left but with the virus is couldn't go in to work so I said I'd leave it and get a jsb payment witch was paid almost 5 days later

The Lost Sheep

segosego89 wrote: »

Can I ask what kind of work you were doing on the Tus scheme? Can you elaborate why your employer turned nasty towards the end?

Look through their posts in the thread theyve said what they were doing and why they thought employer was acting like they did.

segosego89

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Look through their posts in the thread theyve said what they were doing and why they thought employer was acting like they did.

Apologies, I didn't realize I had talked to the same user before weeks ago.

Phat Cat

My wife finished her Tús placement last week and applied for JSA online as soon as possible. She hasn't heard anything back yet and we were wondering how long does this process usually take?

dhaughton99

Is anyone with a placement in schools being asked to return?

segosego89

Phat Cat wrote: »

My wife finished her Tús placement last week and applied for JSA online as soon as possible. She hasn't heard anything back yet and we were wondering how long does this process usually take?

Have you tried ringing or emailing your local social welfare office to ask about it?

Phat Cat

segosego89 wrote: »

Have you tried ringing or emailing your local social welfare office to ask about it?

Of course, but nobody answers the phone.

segosego89

Phat Cat wrote: »

Of course, but nobody answers the phone.

Goodness, you must live in a fairly populated place in Ireland? Where I live people in the SW office usually answer the phones and will answer emails.

Have you definitely tried emailing them? It's a bit ridiculous that they are not responding.

sonofenoch

Phat Cat wrote: »

My wife finished her Tús placement last week and applied for JSA online as soon as possible. She hasn't heard anything back yet and we were wondering how long does this process usually take?

She'll get paid 1 week and a half 2 weeks after ........you get nothing for the 3 days after applying, they're called 'waiting days' apparently

dhaughton99

sonofenoch wrote: »

She'll get paid 1 week and a half 2 weeks after ........you get nothing for the 3 days after applying, they're called 'waiting days' apparently

She worked for a year for little, paid tax on that, got nothing out of it and now has to jump through hoops. Sounds about right

segosego89

dhaughton99 wrote: »

She worked for a year for little, paid tax on that, got nothing out of it and now has to jump through hoops. Sounds about right

Out of interest can I ask did she end up getting paid more per week than she would have if she had been getting the basic Jobseekers rate? In other words did the tax she had to pay per week meant that she was worse off than she was when she was just receiving JSA?

Phat Cat

Phat Cat wrote: »

My wife finished her Tús placement last week and applied for JSA online as soon as possible. She hasn't heard anything back yet and we were wondering how long does this process usually take?

Quick update, still no word and my wife was blue in the face trying to call and email the local social welfare office so she decided to head down this morning and talk to them. The office opens at 10am so she arrived at 9:40am but the queue was already 20 people deep. Apparently they were only letting one person into the building at a time so by 11am there were 16 people ahead of her as they had only let 4 people in the previous hour. She waited until 11:30am then she left totally frustrated and will arrive before 9am tomorrow to try her luck again. The whole situation is disgraceful if you ask me!