ratracer wrote: » And, strangely, Dublin traffic hasn’t ground to a halt........ imagine that!!
ratracer wrote: » So there is no money for cycling or bus lanes, but there should be another car lane?? Cycling is not a dead duck, isn’t the govt going to invest €360m in it over the lifetime of this govt? Why shouldn’t Galway be making the most of this ring fenced finding? It’s rather unfortunate (and depressing from my point of view) that the chief executive of the city council doesn’t work harder for it. The existing design of cycle lanes has been, at best, a box ticking exercise, when it should be part of a long term plan for future city transport requirements.
John_Rambo wrote: » I'd take that story with a pinch of salt to be honest. Mrs OBumble has near misses EVERY day with cyclists, unlike everyone else, she dodges death and injury on a weekly basis and can barely make it around the city without risking life and limb with errant cyclists.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Short trials of us routes tend to fail, because they don't give enough time for people to change their behaviours. Also, in a post-Covid world I don't expect shared transport to be a major part of anything. I'm interested to hear what you think would be a "proper bus route across town".
CowboyTed wrote: » We have shown that with the Knocknacarra to Ballybrit cycle lane... Usage is so low the council is not even properly maintaining it.
TwoWheeledTim wrote: » Brilliant
CowboyTed wrote: » Cycling as a Method to relive traffic congestion in Galway in not yielding results... We have shown that with the Knocknacarra to Ballybrit cycle lane... Usage is so low the council is not even properly maintaining it.
CowboyTed wrote: » I am making them short as we can learn and develop more quickly... It also allows for discussion. We should be backing this up with metrics to see if there is up take and good advertising... Proper route: Knocknacarra, Westside, University rd, Salmon Weir Bridge(PT only), Ellington St, Eyre Sq, Foster St, College rd, Renmore, BallyBrit, Parkmore... Try and give bus lane as much as possible, high amount of buses, monitor and see if can during the trial get traffic garda to priortise buses for a trial period... Again, We should be backing this up with metrics to see if there is up take and good advertising... If Galway use it gets extended more and more and then we can look at investing on a more permanent basis...
CowboyTed wrote: » Tim, It is not celebratory news but cycling as a means of transport has only increased 1% in 12 years... That is very bad.. A number of cycle lanes were built in this time... Bike share was introduced...
gordongekko wrote: » And again the true agenda comes out. and again the issue around public transport during a global pandemic have been explained to you and ignored again.
gordongekko wrote: » And again this was explained to you and you have ignored the responses and just repeated the same argument.
CowboyTed wrote: » Cause it still hasn't been answered... It explained that the last time the target was 20% it wasn't set locally and was just lifted of a national document and used locally. The end result was 5.5% an increase of 1%... Now the target is set against 20%, what kind fools do we think people are... Give us realistic targets... So when they wanted the Prom parking it went something like this... "Why do you want the parking lane on the Prom which Salthill Businesses say it greatly hamper their trade." "We want to hit our 20% target" "Did you hit your last target?" "No, we achieved 6.66% of it" "So promised 20% last time and got Westside dug up for 2 years and now you want Salthill"
CowboyTed wrote: » Cause it still hasn't been answered... It explained that the last time the target was 20% it wasn't set locally and was just lifted of a national document and used locally. The end result was 5.5% an increase of 1%... Now the target is set against 20%, what kind fools do we think people are...
CowboyTed wrote: » Again Reality Weather Topography Population Density I have been saying this for about ten pages and still not addressed how these are going to be overcome...
CowboyTed wrote: » I know you are not serious because there is more interest in taking parking or roads off cars than lobby for proper regulation on E-bikes, grants for E-Bikes, grants for showers at work....
Johnny_BravoIII wrote: » What's your non-cycling solution to Galway's transport issues? The solution to Galway's traffic issue is not-rocket science. Best practice exists in hundreds of cities worldwide. All sorts of climate's, population sizes etc. The solution is to reduce car access to the city through investment in public transport, cycling and walking. Remove the car's from the city, invest in public realm, make the city a more attractive 'liveable' environment for residents, safer for people who wish to commute on foot and by bike. The above approach drives footfall, increases commercial activity, reduces pollution, encourages health and wellness in citizens etc. Over a 50 year period people decide that living in the city or near a commuter hub makes more sense and you begin to reverse tide of one-off housing/car-dependant sprawl. Over a 20 year period we build fast, inexpensive commuter hubs for people travelling from the hinterland and introduce congestion charges on single-occupant vehicles. If we do the above, we can then see whether there is a need to build a motorway through An Dangan into An Spideal. People have studied this stuff over 50 years. Phds' in spacial planning, urban design, town planning etc. Yet every person who owns a car and city councillor thinks they know best. There is no alternative solution. If you have one, I'd be interested to hear it.
CowboyTed wrote: » So please give us a role model city to look at.. With similar conditions as we have and we can look how much the infrastructure costs would be ...
The number cycling was 13,131, an increase in numbers of 171% over the previous 13 years, while the numbers walking increased from 17,113 to 24,991.
CowboyTed wrote: » Great..Galway is quite low population density, is quite hilly and has challenging weather for cycling for large many days per year. We have shown that building cycling infrastructure didn't work. Again 1% in 12 years while Cycling was experiencing a boom. So please give us a role model city to look at.. With similar conditions as we have and we can look how much the infrastructure costs would be ...
TwoWheeledTim wrote: » Weather - it isn't always ideal but a bit of decent wet gear and you're good to go. Generally not bad in the early morning, more risk of a shower on the typical evening commute. Topography - ah here, Galway City and suburbs really aren't that hilly. Most cross city cycles will be an easy gentle downhill into town and gradual incline out of town. Personally I like to pick mostly flat routes and cover the inclines in a short sharp climb. With ebikes a gentle incline with pedal assist is perfect. Population Density - what's the issue here? We might have low population density but it's also a small city so the distances are within very manageable cycling range for the average Joe. The Cycle to Work Scheme was extended in the last few days and expanded to cover €1500 ebikes. Done. What's your issue with the current regulation on ebikes? 250W with pedal assist up to 25km/hr speeds. Grants for showers would be nice, but you have to prioritise your battles. Central hubs with secure bike parking, showers and lockers would be even nicer.
donvito99 wrote: » Up the road in Dublin....https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0528/1143184-dublin-figures-indicate-increase-in-sustainable-travel/ So about 6% of commutes on bicycles with shag all integrated bicycle infrastructure. More people walk or cycle than use heavy rail services. 72% of all journeys not by car also.
Johnny_BravoIII wrote: » Should I take from this you are not aware of how other cities manage traffic issues? Why should anybody listen to you?
timmyntc wrote: » Low population density is an argument *against* public transportation, because its less viable with less density. Cycling is a better solution in a low density area than PT because cycling infrastructure takes up much less room than PT infrastructure (bus lanes/tram lines). As to Galway being quite hilly, that entirely depends on where you're coming from/going to. Most of the city is in the flat centre - maybe if you're going to Ballybrit it's hilly, but going to the city centre or out to Parkmore via GMIT there's not really much incline (apart from @ cemetery cross). Weather is a bit of an issue certainly, wind moreso than rain - which is exactly why segregated cycling infrastructure is needed to facilitate this. Theres nothing scarier than a strong gust of wind nearly taking you off the bike when you're on the road - at least on a footpath/cycle lane you can fall over without a car up your backside.
CowboyTed wrote: » Low density is a big issue... It is 10 Km from Knocknacarra to Ballybrit. That is the same as O'Connell St to Sandyford in Dublin...
CowboyTed wrote: » Galway is hilly when compared with many cities just compare it.
TwoWheeledTim wrote: » OK, well let's use your own example above. O'Connell Street to Sandyford is 91m of climbing. Knocknacarra to Ballybrit is 49m of climbing, almost half. You're talking out of your exhaust...
