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Bubblesxoxx

I have been a dancer in Dublin for a decade started in my early 20s a lot of the girls I work with are sound and believe me it’s definitely nothing you see on tv. However Ireland seems to have this negative attitude towards women in this industry or deems us all sex addicts or easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free I don’t get the mindset of some of these people we have stage names in work to protect our identity.

Part of this job comes with a lot of stigma there’s been a few girls who had people find out their day jobs and contact their boss to try and get them fired it’s normally women who rat them out and try to ruin their lives over it. There’s nothing I’d love more than to be open about my job and how it’s helped me get through some dark times in my life but I just couldn’t handle all the derogatory labels and insults and lows people will go to try and ruin your life over it. Since covid hit I don’t know how the strip club industry in Dublin is going to survive.

I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

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dartboardio wrote: »

I know of two Irish girls that have made 100,000+++ euro from it. (honestly)

Im a little jealous, yeah but I can't come to terms with the fact of basically being a pornstar. Like how can you be taken seriously when you've pictures of your full body and face showing, fingering yourself and with your legs spread open all over the Internet.

Embarrassing much. Not exactly something id want to be known for. Rich because of you selling your dirty pictures and videos online, sure anyone can do that.

Id rather make lots of money putting lots of hard work into something encouraging and rewarding.

That one irish tiktoker Niamh, she works as admin in an office somewhere too. Ireland is a tiny place. It wouldn't take long to find out where she worked and imagine those pictures and videos landing on your bosses desk. Ew.

Actually, the whole thing just encourages men to continue to view women as meat, as if their only goal in life is look good to a man.

If I was a wan I'd be 100% on there. Money for jam.

[Deleted User]

Bella is a genius. The ultimate finesse.

Richard Hillman

It's very astute of her. A month of subs and she can retire on it. I would imagine her subs will fall off like a cliff after the first month. But if she is getting half of what she did in the first month to the second month, she's doing well.

dartboardio

I know of two Irish girls that have made 100,000+++ euro from it. (honestly)

Im a little jealous, yeah but I can't come to terms with the fact of basically being a pornstar. Like how can you be taken seriously when you've pictures of your full body and face showing, fingering yourself and with your legs spread open all over the Internet.

Embarrassing much. Not exactly something id want to be known for. Rich because of you selling your dirty pictures and videos online, sure anyone can do that.

Id rather make lots of money putting lots of hard work into something encouraging and rewarding.

That one irish tiktoker Niamh, she works as admin in an office somewhere too. Ireland is a tiny place. It wouldn't take long to find out where she worked and imagine those pictures and videos landing on your bosses desk. Ew.

Actually, the whole thing just encourages men to continue to view women as meat, as if their only goal in life is look good to a man.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/355485

Disney to OnlyFans 2 million in a couple of days.
and seems the lowly models on there aren't impressed with how she just swooped in and cleaned up.

https://www.indy100.com/article/bella-thorne-onlyfans-sex-workers-9693891

Errashareesh

Not just Irish society. Ill advised in many countries.

DublinWriter

It really doesn't matter what you or I think about it, it's how Irish society perceives it. I'm sorry, but that's the grim truth.

Remember, the Internet never forgets and the social dynamic of Ireland functions more like a village than a country.

I've watched a particular Irish Tiktoker (who shall remain nameless) go down the OF route like a car-crash. Everything you shouldn't do, she's done, including boasting about her earnings and insulting her OF base on Twitter, but more disastrously, thinking that her initial OF high earnings will be the baseline of her future earnings on there...at some point the novelty wears off.

You need to really research it before you go into it, Google the stories from those already on OF and learn from their mistakes.

leggo

Kamu wrote: »

In relation to the girl who has an Onlyfans and is holding down a career, what would happen to said career if her content was leaked wherever it is that she works?

It was discovered that someone in my place of work had an OF and had posted some pretty graphic stuff free online. It became a talking point among a few people for the day it was discovered, while people also did some sums as to how much they’d be earning from it, then that was that. They weren’t even particularly judged, most people were like “yeah if I could earn that for doing the same I probably would.” I’m not sure if senior management heard but, knowing the workplace, I’d be stunned if they faced any consequences because it’s their private life and doesn’t interfere with the dayjob in any way.

I worked with another person way back who’d post some graphic stuff online and used to post about where they worked specifically (often negatively too). In that case, they were pulled into an office. You can kinda understand that because they’re naming their employer and speaking in bad terms about them in public which is a big no-no in any job, but even then the fact that their boss even brought up the risqué content felt a bit close to the line and I’d imagine could’ve quite easily backfired on them if the employee wasn’t so mortified by it all. Again, the wind is blowing the other direction now.

jaxxx

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Yeah, you are very delusional...

I don't care if they are married, married girls sleep around plenty too. I'm sure there are a small minority who just "dance" and go home to their partner... but from what I have seen, they are only the minority.

Trying to make "dancers" seem more respectable is a waste of time. Society is never going to see your profession in the way that you would hope... you are only marginally more respectable than hookers. You are really just a slightly more upmarket version of a prostitute, in the eyes of most people in society. (whether they admit this to your face or not)

Exotic dancers, strippers... whatever name you wish to use. They have been around forever in places like the US etc... and in all that time the perception has not really changed at all. Yes there are some clubs that have better reputations than others, but the job title itself is still viewed essentially the same way it always was.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's very easy to pick another profession if your goal is to be more respected by people!

Strippers/prostitutes/etc are still people and deserve basic the very basic courtesy and respect that are afforded to everyone else! If society judges them for what they do with their own bodies, not who they are; then it's society at fault!

2forjoy

Delighted there is an outlet like onlyfans and some girls just give there paypal.me address for private sessions . This type of activity was suppressed for long enough .

Bubblesxoxx

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Yeah, you are very delusional...

I don't care if they are married, married girls sleep around plenty too. I'm sure there are a small minority who just "dance" and go home to their partner... but from what I have seen, they are only the minority.

Trying to make "dancers" seem more respectable is a waste of time. Society is never going to see your profession in the way that you would hope... you are only marginally more respectable than hookers. You are really just a slightly more upmarket version of a prostitute, in the eyes of most people in society. (whether they admit this to your face or not)

Exotic dancers, strippers... whatever name you wish to use. They have been around forever in places like the US etc... and in all that time the perception has not really changed at all. Yes there are some clubs that have better reputations than others, but the job title itself is still viewed essentially the same way it always was.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's very easy to pick another profession if your goal is to be more respected by people!

I do in fact have another profession. And I’m 100 per cent sure that’s brainwashing by the media and how tv shows portray dancers. I feel people can’t make up their own minds it’s following what Society does. Anything to do with sexy things like pole dancing for fitness even burlesque dancing or god forbid lingerie models seem to be outcast in that not enough respect for themselves category.

Honestly I’m well used to it I was open about it for a bit at the start and just went quiet after a while I can’t change the world and how people view me or my fellow workers. I really enjoy my job if it wasn’t any good for me mentally or it wore me out I can leave any time I want. It’s like talking to a brick wall people have their minds made up without even fully experiencing things.

Ted_YNWA

troll given a holiday & posts deleted.

As you were.

[Deleted User]

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Society needs to separate sex trafficking and sex workers. Put time and energy into stopping sex trafficking, give tougher sentences to those involved in it, while also protecting and giving legal status to sex workers, give them the same rights and benefits as a girl or guy working in an office, or ''normal job' .

Society already does that, it's no longer a crime to be a sex worker. I think you're criticising the wrong people here, it's the sex-work industry that needs to distance itself from human trafficking.

A recent report from the US State Department has said that the decriminalisation of prostitution in Ireland has hampered the ability of Irish Gardai to detect trafficking and abuse, so it isn't a simple problem to solve. I don't think I agree with criminalization at all, but am not so naive as to think decriminalisation would make it easier to detect trafficking.

https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-response-to-human-trafficking-5133626-Jun2020/

IRELAND HAS BEEN downgraded in an assessment of its response to eliminating human trafficking by a US State department annual report.

The Trafficking in Persons Report 2020 was published by the US Department of State yesterday.

...

Ireland is the only country in western Europe in this watchlist

...

It says there have no been trafficking convictions since law amendments in 2013 which “weakened deterrence, contributed to impunity for traffickers, and undermined efforts to support victims to testify”.

EmmetSpiceland

Santan wrote: »

What pub was that

Not sure of the name, I remember reading about it at the time. Although, I remember it as topless “waitresses”.

Here’s an article from the Catholic Herald about it:

http://archive-uat.catholicherald.co.uk/article/13th-august-1993/1/guinness-with-a-topless-touch-enrages-locals

“Locals have nicknamed him "Sylvie" after a sleazy, disreputable character in the RTE soap opera Glenroe.“

Mister Vain

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe. I'd have thought that there was huge competition from all around the world would make it difficult to make any kind of serious money there.

Ohh there is competition but there is a big demand too. The freelance models that do nude modelling for example would generally make a lot more money than those working for modeling agencies, unless they're big time fashion models.

Kamu

I Am Nobody wrote: »

What I dont understand is the conflict of this discussion that is posed mostly by men.Is it the Woke one who have issues about women who make money from the beauty of their bodies?Why wouldn't they if there is market for it?

Some of those women are with men and are earning so much that the guy doesn't have to 'work'*

*I imagine the guy helps create the content though.

Kamu

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe. I'd have thought that there was huge competition from all around the world would make it difficult to make any kind of serious money there.

There is massive competition, but most who begin have some form of prior following through Instagram/Twitter/Reddit or Cammed.

There will also always be that small fraction of guys looking for something new all the time.

Main issue, which I discussed earlier, is that there is a shelf-life for these women; you either do more Hardcore stuff, more surgery, offer more experiences like phone-calls/texts and the likes or be replaced by women who will or the new generation of 18 year old's* who will.

*Though, as with all other aspects of life, there will be a market for MILFS, very petite women, very fat women , etc.

I Am Nobody

What I dont understand is the conflict of this discussion that is posed mostly by men.Is it the Woke one who have issues about women who make money from the beauty of their bodies?Why wouldn't they if there is market for it?

[Deleted User]

Mister Vain wrote: »

Why would they need to be unique? Being attractive is enough. A lot of girls in Ireland do nude modelling and there's good money to be made in that too.

Maybe. I'd have thought that there was huge competition from all around the world would make it difficult to make any kind of serious money there.

Kamu

In relation to the girl who has an Onlyfans and is holding down a career, what would happen to said career if her content was leaked wherever it is that she works?

My assumption by the term 'career' is that it's office based, and while selling content wouldn't be an offence that can lead to being let go (I think) I imagine any form of promotion would be gone because of the Stigma.

There was a Teacher in America who also created hardcore content that was doxxed and was chased from her job and the likes.

You hear it often enough I suppose, especially around Redditor's who were doxxed.

Mister Vain

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Interesting - I didn't think that would be unique enough to bring in big money, but there you go.

Why would they need to be unique? Being attractive is enough. A lot of girls in Ireland do nude modelling and there's good money to be made in that too.

BorneTobyWilde

Mr.S wrote: »

Wrong gender for me

But no, not my place to promote her site so I won't PM. Anyway, the content is private unless you pay & subscribe.

See that makes no sense. You'd be forever in her good books if you took out a full page 20k advert on the front page of The Mirror promoting her OF Page. But you won't even share a link in private lol .
I thnk she doesn't exist .

BorneTobyWilde

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Yeah, you are very delusional...

I don't care if they are married, married girls sleep around plenty too. I'm sure there are a small minority who just "dance" and go home to their partner... but from what I have seen, they are only the minority.

Trying to make "dancers" seem more respectable is a waste of time. Society is never going to see your profession in the way that you would hope... you are only marginally more respectable than hookers. You are really just a slightly more upmarket version of a prostitute, in the eyes of most people in society. (whether they admit this to your face or not)

Exotic dancers, strippers... whatever name you wish to use. They have been around forever in places like the US etc... and in all that time the perception has not really changed at all. Yes there are some clubs that have better reputations than others, but the job title itself is still viewed essentially the same way it always was.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's very easy to pick another profession if your goal is to be more respected by people!

This reads as if you are getting angry on behalf of sex workers, but in reality sex workers HATE all these people who come out and protest on behalf of them, labeling them victims, and demanding changes in law to protect them. But all it does is harm them, and then those sex workers have to protest the so called laws brought into protect them, but they have no hope of over turning them.
The trouble with sex workers is simple minds like to throw them all into one group, when in reality its a very complex industry with countless parts to it.

Society needs to separate sex trafficking and sex workers. Put time and energy into stopping sex trafficking, give tougher sentences to those involved in it, while also protecting and giving legal status to sex workers, give them the same rights and benefits as a girl or guy working in an office, or ''normal job' .

jaxxx

Mr.S wrote: »

Being Irish and good looking! Her content is relatively tame by OnlyFans standards, she makes a large chunk of her $$ from additional private requests which makes it even easier. I think most of her followers are outside of Ireland.

I could think of worse things that you'd have to do to make a couple of K every month ontop of your regular salary - all without leaving your house.

Of course the downside is the judgement, but with the above person, she handles it well. People seem to come around when they see the income she get's from it

This seems appropriate:

[Deleted User]

Mr.S wrote: »

Being Irish and good looking! Her content is relatively tame by OnlyFans standards, she makes a large chunk of her $$ from additional private requests which makes it even easier. I think most of her followers are outside of Ireland.

Interesting - I didn't think that would be unique enough to bring in big money, but there you go.

BorneTobyWilde

Mr.S wrote: »

Being Irish and good looking! Her content is relatively tame by OnlyFans standards, she makes a large chunk of her $$ from additional private requests which makes it even easier. I think most of her followers are outside of Ireland.

I could think of worse things that you'd have to do to make a couple of K every month ontop of your regular salary - all without leaving your house.

Of course the downside is the judgement, but with the above person, she handles it well. People seem to come around when they see the income she get's from it

Does she only exist in your imagination ? lol / The funny thing with OF is the more and more links shared of someones profile, the more revenue they seen. It's their most important part, the traffic, so pm a link. Would love to see what it's all about.

[Deleted User]

I Am Nobody wrote: »

Some strippers love the entertainment part of what they do.And in fairness you can't possibly expect them to make moral decisions for those who lack it.That burden isn't theirs to bear.I think alot of people forget that point.They are only offering a service to ones who engage and pay for it.Much like any other business. Thats the bare bones of it IMO.

We all sell ourselves in different ways. It's just that some people have developed different morals.

I used to be a credit controller for a large leasing company with a wide variety of products. The contracts were nasty things but I learned early in my career, that most people get so excited to buy something, that they don't fully read a contract. So, quite often a part of my job was to chase down people who had leased something, avoided paying, built up debt over it, and then I'd have to take their home because they didn't have enough funds otherwise to pay. I was very good at my job, well regarded for my ability to turn around bad debts, and I justified it with knowing that most of the people involved were morons for getting themselves into that situation. It was a horrible job too because you couldn't not notice that often these morons had families who would also suffer. After a decade or so of doing that job, I couldn't do it anymore. Excellent money though, especially the commissions.

We all sell ourselves.

Whereas my ex was a stripper in Brisbane. Worked in a fairly high class club. She made more in 3 months than I made in a year. She would work 6 months, and have holidays for 6 months. Did the prostitution gig for a while, but actually made far more money stripping and being unobtainable. She provided a service, made a fortune and didn't care because the men (and women) who paid for her services made their own choices. She didn't hurt anyone by doing that, and she loved her job.

Whereas, my professional job hurt many more people. Sure, those people entered into those agreements willingly, and they should have been more financially responsible, but there were consequences.

The point is that we all put ourselves out there for the income we receive. Stripping or prostitution generally doesn't hurt anyone... consenting adults and all that. Just as leasing equipment and failing to pay concerns consenting adults.

People should be responsible for their own lives/choices. It's not on the person providing the service. And morals? I've found in life, that people talk a lot about morals, but rarely live up to all that talk.

[Deleted User]

Mister Vain wrote: »

Nudes.

I think you missed the U in USP.

Mister Vain

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

What's her USP? You'd think it would be hard to build up a strong following unless you are offering something different to the masses.

Nudes.

[Deleted User]

Mr.S wrote: »

I have one friend who does OnlyFans, it's absolutely mind-blogging the amount of money she makes from it - on top of working full time in a career-type job.

She had a deposit saved for her house under 12 months as a result of doing it. Mental.

Power to them, I don't see the issue as long as they are happy with their photos being online, if it works for them - what's the issue?

What's her USP? You'd think it would be hard to build up a strong following unless you are offering something different to the masses.