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Bubblesxoxx

I have been a dancer in Dublin for a decade started in my early 20s a lot of the girls I work with are sound and believe me it’s definitely nothing you see on tv. However Ireland seems to have this negative attitude towards women in this industry or deems us all sex addicts or easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free I don’t get the mindset of some of these people we have stage names in work to protect our identity.

Part of this job comes with a lot of stigma there’s been a few girls who had people find out their day jobs and contact their boss to try and get them fired it’s normally women who rat them out and try to ruin their lives over it. There’s nothing I’d love more than to be open about my job and how it’s helped me get through some dark times in my life but I just couldn’t handle all the derogatory labels and insults and lows people will go to try and ruin your life over it. Since covid hit I don’t know how the strip club industry in Dublin is going to survive.

I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

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Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

KiKi III wrote: »

No, I think there’s nothing wrong with being promiscuous as long as everything is safe, consensual and ideally mutually pleasurable.

I never said it was wrong. As I said to the OP - it's a free world, do as you please.

But there are often deeper reasons why people do these things. Certain behaviours are not always as straightforward or simplistic as people like to paint them... I've noticed common traits in many people who are "promiscuous" as you say.

I wasn't condemning anyone, just giving my observations, as the OP was asking for people's views on the industry.

[Deleted User]

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

No, I'm certainly not religious.

People who sleep around on a regular basis with random strangers, tend to be a bit lost within themselves from my experience. They're usually damaged in some way or another, and are searching for something by having random sexual encounters!

Just my opinion. No offence intended towards anyone.

I suspect that a lot of people with low self confidence do sleep around, as a means to external validation. But they're just one, probably small, cohort of people who regularly sleep around.

I would imagine that for most people, casual sex is just a pastime with low emotional significance. There might be cultural differences across age-brackets and gender, though. It gets a little boring as you approach 30 and beyond, I think.

Mister Vain

A lot of girls on instagram get annoyed when guys make comments on their raunchy pics, but have no problem with the same guys paying for their content on Onlyfans.

EmmetSpiceland

Mister Vain wrote: »

A lot of girls on instagram get annoyed when guys make comments on their raunchy pics, but have no problem with the same guys paying for their content on Onlyfans.

Do you experience this backlash a lot when commenting on the girl’s “raunchy pics”?

Mister Vain

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Do you experience this backlash a lot when commenting on the girl’s “raunchy pics”?

No I'm always respectful of course.

KiKi III

Mister Vain wrote: »

A lot of girls on instagram get annoyed when guys make comments on their raunchy pics, but have no problem with the same guys paying for their content on Onlyfans.

Are you sure you're not mixing up two different girls?

Feisar

Mister Vain wrote: »

No I'm always respectful of course.

Some lad was asking in the comments section for a porn star to send him money as he was poor.

Me: Anyone that gets their asshole left looking like a .45 ACP exit wound at work deserves to keep what they make. I thought it was a reasonable point.

bb1234567

Mister Vain wrote: »

A lot of girls on instagram get annoyed when guys make comments on their raunchy pics, but have no problem with the same guys paying for their content on Onlyfans.

How is that surprising?

leggo

Mister Vain wrote: »

A lot of girls on instagram get annoyed when guys make comments on their raunchy pics, but have no problem with the same guys paying for their content on Onlyfans.

From people I know it’s literally a case of them being totally exasperated with creeps to the point their attitude is “I may as well make some money and set some boundaries because this is going to happen either way.” Particularly people who have a following already and trade off social media for non-sexual reasons but would be body confident enough to say “**** it, have your **** but pay me at least.” That was particularly the case I saw with the influx of people who did it during lockdown because they found themselves out of work. So yes, they do hate the creepiness, but they’ll tolerate it if it pays their bills because they don’t really have a choice either way beyond ‘leave social media’, which they shouldn’t have to.

Which, again, you can judge all you want but I’d imagine a lot of people who do would take it in a second if it were an option to them.

Church on Tuesday

Feisar wrote: »

Some lad was asking in the comments section for a porn star to send him money as he was poor.

Me: Anyone that gets their asshole left looking like a .45 ACP exit wound at work deserves to keep what they make. I thought it was a reasonable point.

Yeah, I think that's enough internet for me tonight.

Queasy Tadpole

leggo wrote: »

From people I know it’s literally a case of them being totally exasperated with creeps to the point their attitude is “I may as well make some money and set some boundaries because this is going to happen either way.” Particularly people who have a following already and trade off social media for non-sexual reasons but would be body confident enough to say “**** it, have your **** but pay me at least.” That was particularly the case I saw with the influx of people who did it during lockdown because they found themselves out of work. So yes, they do hate the creepiness, but they’ll tolerate it if it pays their bills because they don’t really have a choice either way beyond ‘leave social media’, which they shouldn’t have to.

Which, again, you can judge all you want but I’d imagine a lot of people who do would take it in a second if it were an option to them.

Are your friends proud to be whores?

Feisar

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Yeah, I think that's enough internet for me tonight.

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[Deleted User]

Ah..Jesus Christ..

Feisar

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah..Jesus Christ..

hahahaha

Airyfairy12

Whats onlyfans?

Personally don't see any problem with sex work or women who dance, as long as it's their own choice and they have free will, its trafficking and exploitation that I have issue with.

As for people attempting to ruin dancers career's, can that be reported? Surely it can't be legal to fire someone for working a seperate, totally legal job that doesn't effect the day job?

Queasy Tadpole

Yeah Sarah down in accounts... yeah she moonlights as an internet whore... yeah she is making a killing, he check out her asshole... show the lads in sales.

How'd you think that would go down for Sarah?

bb1234567

I have no issue with it, but I feel sorry for the position that these people have put themselves in, that they have left themselves open to being stalked or doxxed by random weirdos on the internet. Yeh you get some money, but in the long run it probably won't be worth it. There are just too many ways in which the consequences could greatly outweight the benefits. So yeh, wouldn't recommend it.

If it was my friend, I wouldn't judge them or think lesser of them. But I would hope that they considered it just as very temporary means to an end within their greater life path. In one way I'd admire the fact that they are so confident in their body that they want to broadcast it online to strangers without embarassment, but if they hoped for this to be a major source of income long term, it would make me a bit upset for their sake. Everyone had body parts that look pretty much alike, some a bit better than others but really none are all that special, every personality and their talents and qualities are completely unique, I'd hope that they'd see more value in those parts of themselves than their arse.

Looks fade..what are you left with if you spent all your life trying to perfect this body for your fans. I'm generalising obviously, I'm sure it's just a part time gig for most, but yeh my main concern would be that they wouldn't develop skills for any fall back in the meantime. But again , if it works and theyr're happy then sure it's probably a silly concern of mine.

leggo

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

Are your friends proud to be whores?

Never even said they were friends, but I’d imagine there’s more pride to be had in that than being the sexually aggressive lad online whose nerve is hit by the word ‘creep’...

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

Yeah Sarah down in accounts... yeah she moonlights as an internet whore... yeah she is making a killing, he check out her asshole... show the lads in sales.

How'd you think that would go down for Sarah?

Depends what class of lads you have down in sales I suppose.

Also depending on the establishment she's working in, she might get a few promotions if she gives a few favours to the right people!

Sarah's a fun girl, who doesn't like Sarah? :P

Ted_YNWA

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

Are your friends proud to be whores?

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

Yeah Sarah down in accounts... yeah she moonlights as an internet whore... yeah she is making a killing, he check out her asshole... show the lads in sales.

How'd you think that would go down for Sarah?

Mod

Can you improve your posting style & vocabulary.

Bubblesxoxx

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

I've no problem with "dancers". But in my experience, you guys definitely sleep around with more random guys than the average person on the street. A LOT more!

So yes, I do consider most of you to be very "easy"... and I find easy women to be a bit trashy and lacking in self respect.

I'm generalising of course. But sometimes generalisations are grounded in reality. Each to their own though! It's a free world and all that Jazz!

Yeah and girls that do that give the rest of us a bad name we don’t mix sleeping with customers into our job we normally laugh about the men who promise us the world to go back and sleep with them. Any girl caught doing **** like that is fired it’s also harmful to the industry. You’d be surprised how many girls in the place are married. There is a few girls that will do anything but then again who doesn’t these days

Bubblesxoxx

s1ippy wrote: »

Stopped reading after this point because in fairness, for somebody who is willing to take their clothes off for money in front of people, what the hell business is it of yours what consenting adults do to each other behind closed doors. At least they don't have to bring money into it, unlike sex workers who are often forced into the work due to lack of talent/intelligence (besides selling your body) or depraved clientele who have to pay to get some because nobody would shag them otherwise.

Clearly there is good and bad in every industry and if you could remove the chip from your shoulder maybe you wouldn't spend your days being sexually exploited and could actually live out some of the bizarre perverted fantasies you imagine the woman buying bread has.

Hahaha How do I have a chip on my shoulder? I’m pointing out that Irish people have the cheek to criticize dancers for basically just going topless with no physical contact and getting paid for it when there is way worse things every day people do. No dancer is ever forced into working in my club or any other club I’ve worked at you are talking about prostitution and I don’t mix the two together at all. Open your eyes women are constantly sexually exploited you barely have to even dress up to get men leering at you or checking you out in day to day life

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

Bubblesxoxx wrote: »

Yeah and girls that do that give the rest of us a bad name we don’t mix sleeping with customers into our job we normally laugh about the men who promise us the world to go back and sleep with them. Any girl caught doing **** like that is fired it’s also harmful to the industry. You’d be surprised how many girls in the place are married. There is a few girls that will do anything but then again who doesn’t these days

Yeah, you are very delusional...

I don't care if they are married, married girls sleep around plenty too. I'm sure there are a small minority who just "dance" and go home to their partner... but from what I have seen, they are only the minority.

Trying to make "dancers" seem more respectable is a waste of time. Society is never going to see your profession in the way that you would hope... you are only marginally more respectable than hookers. You are really just a slightly more upmarket version of a prostitute, in the eyes of most people in society. (whether they admit this to your face or not)

Exotic dancers, strippers... whatever name you wish to use. They have been around forever in places like the US etc... and in all that time the perception has not really changed at all. Yes there are some clubs that have better reputations than others, but the job title itself is still viewed essentially the same way it always was.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's very easy to pick another profession if your goal is to be more respected by people!

[Deleted User]

Bubblesxoxx wrote: »

Hahaha How do I have a chip on my shoulder? I’m pointing out that Irish people have the cheek to criticize dancers for basically just going topless with no physical contact and getting paid for it when there is way worse things every day people do. No dancer is ever forced into working in my club or any other club I’ve worked at you are talking about prostitution and I don’t mix the two together at all. Open your eyes women are constantly sexually exploited you barely have to even dress up to get men leering at you or checking you out in day to day life

Is the exchange of money for nudity not a power imbalance, just like it would be if (say) a fashion photograoher demanded nude pics from models? We've seen high profile cases like that in the metoo movement.

I haven't really thought about it, but there is at least a grey area here. The introduction of money for sexual gratification surely implies a power imbalance.

daheff

This thread has the feel of becoming an article in a certain Sunday newspaper......

joe40

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Yeah, you are very delusional...

I don't care if they are married, married girls sleep around plenty too. I'm sure there are a small minority who just "dance" and go home to their partner... but from what I have seen, they are only the minority.

Trying to make "dancers" seem more respectable is a waste of time. Society is never going to see your profession in the way that you would hope... you are only marginally more respectable than hookers. You are really just a slightly more upmarket version of a prostitute, in the eyes of most people in society. (whether they admit this to your face or not)

Exotic dancers, strippers... whatever name you wish to use. They have been around forever in places like the US etc... and in all that time the perception has not really changed at all. Yes there are some clubs that have better reputations than others, but the job title itself is still viewed essentially the same way it always was.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's very easy to pick another profession if your goal is to be more respected by people!

Would you have the same scorn for the Men who go to these establishment or engage with the activity.

ExMachina1000

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Is the exchange of money for nudity not a power imbalance, just like it would be if (say) a fashion photograoher demanded nude pics from models? We've seen high profile cases like that in the metoo movement.

I haven't really thought about it, but there is at least a grey area here. The introduction of money for sexual gratification surely implies a power imbalance.

What happened to my body my choice

[Deleted User]

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

What happened to my body my choice

Choice has to be based on consent, freely given.

There seems to me to be a tension between consent and power imbalance, eg can't pay rent if you dont take off your clothes for someone's sexual gratification.

Maybe there is a good way of resolving that, it's more of a question than a statement.

ExMachina1000

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Choice has to be based on consent, freely given.

There seems to me to be a tension between consent and power imbalance, eg can't pay rent if you dont take off your clothes for someone's sexual gratification.

Maybe there is a good way of resolving that, it's more of a question than a statement.

I'm talking about the website where people charge others to see them in the nip

anewme

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Exotic dancers, strippers... whatever name you wish to use. They have been around forever in places like the US etc...

Anyone remember this Lady?

Toni, Exotic dancer, from Ballyfermot who took up 'exotic dancing' to pay for her kids music lessons after her husband lost his job.

Interesting snapshot of life in Ireland the 80's.

I remember her posters would be up locally and some people going, oh isnt that terrible!

https://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/1129/835226-toni-exotic-dancer/