Gregory Juicy Aardvark wrote: » I did some looking about. Primers seem to come in regular silicone format, then some with color corrector and something else, luminescent/gloss..... something something. But they don't seem to be comparable to foundation in that there's no color matching, finish texture etc - not the same range to choose from. Primarily just a silicone base so the foundation sits more smoothly on the skin. ..... I gotta say, BB/CC cream has little comparison to full coverage foundation in terms of essentially enhancing skin appearance.
bb1234567 wrote: » A green colour corrector- it's more of a moisturiser with a suble green tint, but it's very effective at reducing redness without making me look green. I'm really impressed by it tbh. If you have no redness I don't see a point to buying this. Other correctors such as salmon for purple underyees seem like a gimmick to me, unless your dark circles are absolutely woeful a normal concealer will be effective enough.
Airyfairy12 wrote: » Hi, just wondering what colour corrector do you use? ive been trying to find a decent green tint corrector for years, just cant find one that works without making my skin look grey/green. Thanks.
bb1234567 wrote: » Hi hopefully this one will work for you then , it's called Barry M cosmetics Flawless primer. It's my favourite one I would say. I too have found that issue with a lot of them causing an ashy grey appearance but havnt had that problem with this one . And I personally havn't experienced any noticeable greening of my skin but I havnt really has this issue in general as I think a little goes a long way , so I don't use all that much. The hue in this is quite a nice light shade of lime, which I think looks a bit better than others I've tried so far, and the texture sinks in like a moisturiser.https://www.google.ie/amp/s/reallyree.com/barry-m-flawless-primers-review-swatches/amp/ A lady has done a swatch of it in this blog post. It's very cheap anyway !
bb1234567 wrote: » That's it mostly. Sorry it's so long but I know how confusing this is starting off as a guy and how little resources there are to help guys.I have still not gotten over the embarassment of going to a makeup aisle or asking a shop assistant for help with tones/products, so sadly I buy it all on amazon to save preserve my dignity. I'm sure the ladies in Inglot or wherever would be perfectly cool about it but I'm quite shy and just can't face it. Basically I had to self learn which was really hard. To top it all off , our technique has to be really good. Otherwise people will notice, and there are lot lot of people who won't mind ripping the piss out of a guy that wears makeup. So, not only is it harder for guys to learn but they've a lot to lose if they do apply it badly. If you'd like to dicuss a bit more you can PM me as it's something I'm interested in and I completely relate to your struggles.
Gregory Juicy Aardvark wrote: » Cheers man, great info. You raise one point which definitely jumps out at me, which is, "I have still not gotten over the embarassment of going to a makeup aisle or asking a shop assistant for help with tones/products" This wasn't so much a difficult hurdle for myself, but it seemed a slightly difficult hurdle - believe it or no - to find a MUA that I could get a sound consultation with. No judgement but, I went in a couple places and hand to God, the gal/woman behind the counter basically said, "we don't do that here, sorry", flustered and that I should show myself out. I get the distinct feeling it's unusual for.... I don't know "men" in general, but frankly, someone such as myself, to go looking at makeup. .... Anyways, after wandering about a department store make up section and some too'ing and fro'ing, I got this great consultation with a MUA that according to herself, does makeup for high def television and made the appearance look super natural. It was a very reassuring experience at the start as, she used full coverage foundation all over and basically matched the shades etc so perfectly. But the products were ridiculously expensive so I ended up just starting with some cheaper drug store products to get a feel for things. Again - kind of weird initially in the drug store but, gal eventually seemed to get a sense that I was genuine and we tried a bunch of shades and found one which seems to match fairly okay. The improvement in appearance with makeup is so dramatic, in addition to learning that plenty of dudes use/wear it that, I'm prepared to invest the time to become proficient at its discreet application. If it's okay just fire ahead with perspectives here on the open forum as perhaps there's a MUA or two that peruses this sub and can lend some insights on the tribulations of dudes buying makeup, :cool:
Airyfairy12 wrote: » Even as a woman I avoid MUA consultations, I was offered to have my makeup done for free in Brown Thomas and even turned that down. Each to their own but im not personally into the full face of full coverage makeup, the makeup trend currently is instagram/drag queen makeup which in involves 20 makeup application steps, for a natural look they switch out the bright colours for neutral ones and use Brown Eyeliner instead of black but it's clearly no were near natural looking. Theyre trained to do makeup this way, I did a beautician/ makeup training course years ago with a very notable course provider, the more makeup we could fit onto the face, the more impressed the trainers were. I love a natural look too. Someone mentioned earlier to watch Lisa Eldridge youtube videos, id second that as she has some really good natural looks.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » The girls at laura mercier in BT are really nice ...and do very natural work!
Gregory Juicy Aardvark wrote: » Sure, and I'd imagine that's coming from someone who has experience in the area. Getting started out I was hoping for someone basically to show me a foundation from a concealer, I didn't know what beauty blender was etc. Blank slate. I think I just needed that outlay from someone who does it for a living, right from the start to show me where I should begin. Where I'm at now is - I seem to have gotten an understanding of the basics; - pore reducing primer - correct shade/finish/coverage foundation - under eye concealer and - translucent setting powder. In my case all applied minimally for discretion, but improvement is dramatic. Also tried of course as per title, BB/CC creams but, full coverage foundation yields much better result. Then small additions like, - eyebrow gel - lanolips for moisturized lips - And trying to move on to discreet contouring/bronzing/highlighting (especially to reintroduce that "3D" appearance after the coverage of a foundation, as the dude above mentioned). - Correctly shaded lip liner (maybe). And that should be all the bases covered. As you mention, there does seem to be this idea of "drag queen" etc however, This dude has on makeup here, Here he doesn't, Difference is dramatic, though in picture A, I don't think anyone would call that "Drag". i.e. focus is on appearance enhancement, more so than some kind of social trend. Though naturally the latter has always had strong influence on choice for many I'd imagine.